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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted December 24, 2008 09:59 AM

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Why is havez power hero?



Well to be honest I was referring more to Haggash... but Havez is indeed considered a power hero.. He starts with 80+ Gremlins... and 500+ Gremlins with extra bonus per level to there attack makes there creeping much easier then any other Acadamy hero. Plus he starts with balista and ammo cart.. thats about as TRAINING WHEELish as you get as far as Acadamy heroes are considered.




Strange, i thought academy has no problems creeping. Actually, he can't take fights faster than any other hero, he just finishes them faster. And i always thought that warmachines are a handicap for him on week 4+ maps. Why is Haggash more of a power hero than any other creature specialists? Why is not that goblin guy a power hero? his goblins with battle frenzy are scary, don't you think?

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted December 24, 2008 10:54 AM

Forget to mention in last replay Hagash have also ultimate blood rage ...
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


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posted December 24, 2008 11:23 AM

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Why is not that goblin guy a power hero? his goblins with battle frenzy are scary, don't you think?

Till now i thought that Kilghan's goblins don't receive att/def bonus... Where can i get the mod you are using, Sam?

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samiekl
samiekl


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posted December 24, 2008 11:32 AM

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Why is not that goblin guy a power hero? his goblins with battle frenzy are scary, don't you think?

Till now i thought that Kilghan's goblins don't receive att/def bonus... Where can i get the mod you are using, Sam?


Whatever, it was just an example.

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the_teacher
the_teacher


Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
posted December 29, 2008 12:48 PM

Gimme some burning love: 2 from my latest games.

Actually inferno is one of the funniest town to play with:

from SideKick
http://rapidshare.com/files/177807586/demonVSsylvan.sav.html


from Mastermind
http://rapidshare.com/files/177808102/demonVSnecro.sav.html

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted December 30, 2008 01:16 PM

Respect. I expected you might like inferno, you like to make things hard on yourself Opposition also played well, there were some pretty smart moves in there.
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valkyrica
valkyrica


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posted December 30, 2008 01:40 PM

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Opposition also played well, there were some pretty smart moves in there.


I doubt you're referring to the Sidekick game, as I was the opponent and I made a bunch of mistakes ...  

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted December 30, 2008 02:19 PM

Maybe a few Imbuing firewall and cloning dragons was a great way to start though.
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the_teacher
the_teacher


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Talk to the hand!
posted December 30, 2008 02:40 PM

Now to give some satisfaction to valky too

Short story before watching the replay: I spent 15 minutes before final turn to decide what to wear: ring of unrepentant (with no bonus) vs celerity ring. i guess the choice it's similar to the upgrade of master hunters over arcanes archers, but still i was in great doubt because resistance was  my only weak point and i like to complicate myself, as elvin pointed out .

I have used nerco ring 100% if i wouldn't have played vs academy, but this way i said to myself lets try to compensate a bit the initiative gap. If it was a good or bad choice you'll see it below.

Warning: battle lasted longer than 1 hour and for the first time in my game history academy wasted all his spell points (240) , so be patient


Map Mastermind:
http://rapidshare.com/files/178141993/necroVSaca.sav.html

P.S. i guess there were mistakes on both sides, but battle was fun, and Magic Mirror,. no comment

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valkyrica
valkyrica


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posted December 30, 2008 03:11 PM

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Maybe a few Imbuing firewall and cloning dragons was a great way to start though.


My biggest flaw was that I didn't have pit fiends in my fav. list. There wasn't a pack on the map, not even 1, imagine that

Otherwise it would've been another story, I think.

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valkyrica
valkyrica


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posted January 03, 2009 04:59 AM


These are more for the new guys starting out, some basic things. Some have their flaws but I didn't want to turn out as being a good player or something

http://www.speedyshare.com/810615299.html
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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted January 03, 2009 12:36 PM

Had forgotten to check teacher's replay and now it says This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times. Mind uploading it again?
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infinitus
infinitus


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posted January 03, 2009 03:04 PM

Replay Infinitus (Vitorio)-Elit (Ossir) Another action on 2m, this time we get on map two towns for Haven, and 3 towns for Sylvan. But i get control over two Sylvan towns, Elit take one Haven town. In late game Elit take control over my main town, i was forced to assault town. Some facts - Vitorio have knight set, Ossir - dark magic, light magic.  
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Elit
Elit


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posted January 03, 2009 03:21 PM

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Some facts - Vitorio have knight set, Ossir - dark magic, light magic.  

Want to add 1 more fact: Haven is alot faster from sylvan

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Towerlord
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posted January 03, 2009 04:28 PM

Some things to note about the replay:

1. The ballista did some serious damage ... and it proved crucial for the final result

2. Elit is kinda noobish with Sylvan and requires some lessons from Sq, or some Arena practice to understand the town better

3. The map seems too rich, and so it is not very balanced
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Elit
Elit


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posted January 03, 2009 05:26 PM

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Some things to note about the replay:

1. The ballista did some serious damage ... and it proved crucial for the final result

2. Elit is kinda noobish with Sylvan and requires some lessons from Sq, or some Arena practice to understand the town better

3. The map seems too rich, and so it is not very balanced



You forget to notice most impartan part from battle...its NORMAL Sylvan to be 1st (i hav ring speed too) not Haven!!! When i loss my archers befor they ever shot here is no battle. Another problem is my famus bad luck..... I was prepared mass slow vs his mass haste and he have imun slow. Maybe you dont notice how his mana end after 3 spel cast because i have Suppres Light....so all what i need was pupet but from 2 towns with lvl 5 dark magic and 2-3 magi values i didunt find it. If i have pupet can won this battle. So my build hero was good just again crazy bad luck. BTW all my 3 games with sylvan i up different skills....dont see why i need to use every time Luck+Log+Enling+Light+attack.

For sure games with SQ79 will be welcome

Random maps is never 100% balanced they are just different every time. Here luck decide alot more but game is interest too. If you want balace game play good custom map.

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Towerlord
Towerlord


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posted January 03, 2009 05:38 PM
Edited by Towerlord at 17:41, 03 Jan 2009.

I don't notice the ring of speed on the replay, maybe you forgot to put it on ... or it's a bug. Yeah, he got a little lucky with ATB, but still that doesn't change the fact that you played strange. Puppet would make no difference in the given conditions, as your druids were already dead( and most of your army), by the time he wasted mana.

Also, the skill combo you mention is not always the best.
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Elit
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posted January 03, 2009 06:02 PM
Edited by Elit at 18:17, 03 Jan 2009.

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I don't notice the ring of speed on the replay, maybe you forgot to put it on ... or it's a bug. Yeah, he got a little lucky with ATB, but still that doesn't change the fact that you played strange. Puppet would make no difference in the given conditions, as your druids were already dead( and most of your army), by the time he wasted mana.

Also, the skill combo you mention is not always the best.


Ring was ON but i have -5% ini from Ogre Club. Dont have other art for this slot. Game not offer me Master Wrath so cant go for Storm Wind and i dont have mass haste/RM. Noting strange in my play. I try different way. Just calc what will hapend if he not imun slow and after few cast mass haste/slow his mana will be out, his unit will be hell slow so my big mana will won game. I have frenzy too just need his units to be slow to can use him enough good. When his main units have ini 18-20 and get moral all time battle end so fast and no time for cast enough spels.

Don't see why need comment battle where no battle. Change how you want all my skills and result will be same. His x4 shot from ballista+ini+moral on grifons 1st turn end battle befor its start. How much games you see sylvan to loss hallf his army vs haven befor ever get turn?
So game is over time for new

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted January 03, 2009 06:25 PM
Edited by infinitus at 18:26, 03 Jan 2009.

Yes, time for new one Forget to mention i have this game -20% ini staff ...
No lucky atb, tried start battle 3 time, all the same ...
To Towerlord - come here to 2m, i will show you the balance
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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted January 03, 2009 06:34 PM

Or lack of it
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