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Known Hero
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posted October 21, 2007 03:47 AM

Tribes of the East is not the ending!

well hello to all heroes V fans,

I remember reading somewhere I think in wikipedia that TotE will be the last expansion for this game, but I don't think so. there are several sotrylines which suggests other wise.

if by now you have played and finished the TotE, then you could of noticed several of the core characters such are raelag are not present in the game, but there are traces of them.for instance in mission 1 when zehir goes to underground and he meets Yalaya, zehir gets an information about his whereabouts. Yalaya tells him that he traveled away because of birth of some dark messiah. now one can ask what dark messiah?

only by remembering some of the previous content from first campaigning mission some of the information provided becomes clear. in the last mission of first campaning, when lord Arantir frees queen Isabelle's soul, Isabelle says that they, the demons I presume, has forced me to give birth to monster, or in other words a dark messiah.

adding these points up I think the story of HOMM 5 world will continue either by a new expansion or by a new series called HOMM 6. after all as zehir said all these events are distractions perhaps to them and perhaps to us as well.

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roy-algriffin
roy-algriffin


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Chocolate ice cream zealot
posted October 21, 2007 04:05 AM
Edited by roy-algriffin at 04:06, 21 Oct 2007.

There was a game made BEFORE Tote called dark messiah of might and magic. Awesome game. but more of a first person slasher then anything (yes slasher not shooter!) Where that child that isabel had is revealed.
and End of heroes 5 doesnt necassarily mean the end of the story arc.
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Daystar
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Back from the Dead
posted October 21, 2007 04:38 AM

If anything, the end of Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is proof of continuation.
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Overlord Divine
posted October 21, 2007 09:39 AM

I think that in some expansion to DM or DM2 or HOMM6 they will chose one of the four endings in DM and continue the story after that ending
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emilsn
emilsn


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posted October 21, 2007 10:27 AM

We kind of knew this - Dark Messiah was the future of this game. So yes this is not the end, but its the end of Biara ...
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Cepheus
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posted October 21, 2007 02:53 PM

Whether you like it or not, TotE is the last expansion for Heroes V.  The developers have announced that numeous times.  Of course, it won't be the last episode in Ashan.  There's still too many unresolved details.

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posted October 21, 2007 04:55 PM

And I remember some interview where a guy said: Last expansion with a connecting storyline. but they wouldn't say last expansion.
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Known Hero
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posted October 22, 2007 12:48 AM

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Whether you like it or not, TotE is the last expansion for Heroes V.  The developers have announced that numeous times.  Of course, it won't be the last episode in Ashan.  There's still too many unresolved details.


can you tell us what other unresolved details remain besides the ones that I said up there?

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roy-algriffin
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Chocolate ice cream zealot
posted October 22, 2007 02:18 AM

A major if subtle one is the whole Asha/urgash thing. Isnt there a prophecy that asha will come out of the moon at some point?

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Known Hero
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posted October 22, 2007 04:04 AM

where did you hear this prophecy? also what is the difference between urgash and ashan?

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roy-algriffin
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posted October 22, 2007 05:14 AM
Edited by roy-algriffin at 05:17, 22 Oct 2007.

Urgash- Primordial dragon of chaoas Asha- Primordial dragon of order
try this- http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/timeline.shtml
Dont remember where and if i heard the prophecy somewhere really. but would make sense.

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posted October 22, 2007 07:43 AM
Edited by watcher83 at 07:44, 22 Oct 2007.

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A major if subtle one is the whole Asha/urgash thing. Isnt there a prophecy that asha will come out of the moon at some point?

when kha-belth is released(after DM), Asha will awaken
it was mentioned by one of the guys who wrote hommV storyline and character lines in an interview a while back

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SBlister
SBlister


Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
posted October 22, 2007 11:09 AM

There will be no more HoMM V expansion packs. Tribes was the last. The next time we'll see anymore action is either a new Dark Messiah or Heroes VI.

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Overlord Divine
posted October 22, 2007 06:20 PM

If the endings when Kha-Beleth goes free is the real one, maybe he will try to free Urgash then and Urgash will fight Asha.

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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
posted October 22, 2007 06:37 PM

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can you tell us what other unresolved details remain besides the ones that I said up there?


You've covered most of them.  However, we still know nothing about the Naga or the Faceless (Harpies were also mentioned in the lore).  Also we are told nothing about what became of Isabel, Raelag, Zehir, Findan or indeed anyone except Arantir and Kha-Beleth after the events of TotE.  Dark Messiah ends on a strange note since the story could go either way from this point.  However I would guess that Sareth goes ahead and releases Kha-Beleth since he is a "Dark Messiah", otherwise he would just be an enemy to the demons which goes against everything established by his title.

We need more geographical exploration too.  For goodness sake, what is the continent's name?  Is there only one continent on Ashan or (surely) are there more?  Plus there's the three moons surrounding the planet, which would each be pretty intriguing to explore.

That's plenty for now, I think.

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ChaosDragon
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posted October 22, 2007 09:53 PM
Edited by ChaosDragon at 21:58, 22 Oct 2007.

Yeah, all storyline of heroes 5 and its three expansions take place in a continent called palaedra, but there is another land (or an unknown continent) called the shrouded south, and many more undiscovered land and places.

Then, asha awakening will lead us all to discover some secret about  the dragon knights and silvria (ashan have three moons like Cepehus said, silvria is the resting place of asha)


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emilsn
emilsn


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posted October 22, 2007 10:10 PM

Sylvan: I guess they didn't play part in HoF and TotE because they actully were hit pretty hard by Necro and Inferno in HoMM5 . So they are rebuilding. Which gives them a good little side story.

I guess we also needs to hear about that town, that wasn't in the game. And not to speak of Stonehelm, which was only in DM.

Raelag went to the east, because of the dark messiah troubling him. Could he be there to warn that wizard from DM that gets killed in the start(not Menelag) - Arantir also travels to the east, mostly because of the skull of shadow - that could also be a quest for Raelag. Arantir were also allied with Orcs in DM , since he has made a good impression on Kujin. and Gotai is mentioned in DM(If I recall)

The demon sourvereign still needs to be imprisoned. By whom? we dont know. I guess some wizard magic would be well fitted here.

plenty of stuff for HoMM6... And even many side stories.
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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
posted October 22, 2007 11:21 PM

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Yeah, all storyline of heroes 5 and its three expansions take place in a continent called palaedra


Actually I don't think that's right, Palaedra was the replacement kingdom for the destroyed Erathia in Heroes IV's storyline which was ruled by Lord Lysander, and should be in Axeoth, not Ashan.  You seem to be going by the old beta map from when Nival wanted to use Axeoth but Ubisoft wouldn't let them.

I suppose all future stories will take place after Dark Messiah, since TotE already bridged the gap.

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Known Hero
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posted October 23, 2007 02:52 AM

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Yeah, all storyline of heroes 5 and its three expansions take place in a continent called palaedra, but there is another land (or an unknown continent) called the shrouded south, and many more undiscovered land and places.

Then, asha awakening will lead us all to discover some secret about  the dragon knights and silvria (ashan have three moons like Cepehus said, silvria is the resting place of asha)




do you have the map? can we see it or can you post it here?

thank you.

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Mesciurius
Mesciurius

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Arcane Apprentice
posted October 23, 2007 09:13 AM

About Raelag.
if you play the scenario "Agrael's Trial" you'll find out what happened with him:

R A E L A G = A G R A E L

Didn't see that coming !Did you?!

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