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espen15
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posted June 17, 2008 10:30 AM |
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Edited by espen15 at 10:34, 17 Jun 2008.
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Quote: familiars had good intiative and they stolen all the mana i had mark of the necromancer and i recaped 24 mana i cannot use phoenix only raise dead
That means no enlightenment, intelligence or sorcery perks which is your own fault. Or you took too long and let them accumulate. Swift mind could get you to play before familiars as well.
Quote: Good ranger and knight can beat academy easily.And Necro without dark is 75% useless.
See this is what I don't get. If you played online you'd know that as long as the map is balanced all have a fair chance of winning. Necro can pretty much hold its own without dark, the matter is against which factions.
ihad intelligence i had 140/160 mana the enemy just had so good intiative(demon lord) and very much familiars which they stole mana then gating mana stole again swift mind is a skill which i donīt want to waste my skill points for only because of my hero act much before than it will act normal
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 17, 2008 10:33 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 10:35, 17 Jun 2008.
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Which brings us back to what I said. Swift mind and attacking earlier.
Quote: Thing is...I play Ubi maps .But necro can hold wihtout dark, its hard, unless you find cheap alternative like powerhousing vampires.
Necro can creep with just summoning. Dark is only needed against maybe lots/horde of tier 7 in which case it depends on the map. A phoenix with a few other spells can usually take care of them but you may not get it.
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted June 17, 2008 10:35 AM |
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Quote: Which brings us back to what I said. Swift mind and attacking earlier.
Swift mind requires eagle eye , And I don't want spend a level for something completely useless.
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espen15
Famous Hero
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posted June 17, 2008 10:37 AM |
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i donīt like logistics skill because i would wanna get those skills:1.summoning
2. enlightenment
3. sorcery
4. dark magic
5. and luck of course
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 17, 2008 10:37 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 10:40, 17 Jun 2008.
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Useless? You can get slow, suffering, confusion and some other neat things. Besides it is too powerful to dismiss just because you don't like one requirement.
Quote: i donīt like logistics skill because i would wanna get those skills:1.summoning
2. enlightenment
3. sorcery
4. dark magic
5. and luck of course
Riight. When you get to the middle before your opponent and collect all the artifacts and get the extra levels your opponent will wish he had picked logistics
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espen15
Famous Hero
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posted June 17, 2008 10:40 AM |
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Quote:
Quote: Which brings us back to what I said. Swift mind and attacking earlier.
Swift mind requires eagle eye , And I don't want spend a level for something completely useless.
enlightenment is that skill name not h3 eagle eye it isnīt useless skill it will give you extra stats and intelligence give you extra mana also for lord of the undead
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espen15
Famous Hero
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posted June 17, 2008 10:43 AM |
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Quote: Useless? You can get slow, suffering, confusion and some other neat things. Besides it is too powerful to dismiss just because you don't like one requirement.
Quote: i donīt like logistics skill because i would wanna get those skills:1.summoning
2. enlightenment
3. sorcery
4. dark magic
5. and luck of course
Riight. When you get to the middle before your opponent and collect all the artifacts and get the extra levels your opponent will wish he had picked logistics
maby youīre right i donīt have never played hero with logistics unless agrael because missions require that
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 17, 2008 10:46 AM |
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For some maps it is the way to go, depends if what you'll gain with logs are worth the level ups.
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espen15
Famous Hero
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posted June 17, 2008 08:33 PM |
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very strong faction is also dungeon because they have enormous spells and strong creatures and in their town you can buy artifacts(dragon artifacts)which is one key to win the game.
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Anakrom
Known Hero
(Scroll) Out of the blue
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posted June 17, 2008 09:04 PM |
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Oh, really?
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 17, 2008 10:44 PM |
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Hmm... So
1st: Dungeon
2nd: Necropolice
3rd: Academy
-Dungeon, great faction - they could indeed be the best, but still...
-Necro, The new creatures they got isn't that good (the lich is , RAISE DEAD!! oh yeah!) but that is about it.. So they are not so new
-Academy, they are the toughst faction to play(IMO), how can they be the best? How many people do master them and what about their new set of creatures - they are so tough to play because the tactics are new and special. How can you enjoy them so much!!!
Hmm... Grats Dungeon - Academy, see you in hell!
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted June 18, 2008 12:08 AM |
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That's so egotistical a way of thinking. If you can't then you use your head and try more rather than think they are inferior or not worth it. If you can perceive something it doesn't mean it's not there.
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted June 18, 2008 08:42 AM |
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And you are forgetting Stronghold. Stronghold is a contender in any phase of the game. Early they have a small problem, but not for long.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 18, 2008 10:54 AM |
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Quote: That's so egotistical a way of thinking. If you can't then you use your head and try more rather than think they are inferior or not worth it. If you can perceive something it doesn't mean it's not there.
Yes I know
But between the lines I am trying to say: how can this the third strongest faction? Because it is so tough to play, then a lot of people REALLY know how to play it and that suprices me. Necro and Dungeon are way easier: Dungeon = get destrucktion and go crazy! Necro = wait for skellies, then go! Academy is different, you need a lot more skills to figure it out, so it suprices me it is the third strongest which means people really know how to wield it.
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted June 18, 2008 11:07 AM |
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Quote: Necro = wait for skellies
We got rid of that system in H5 , you usually need more meat power than skellies.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted June 18, 2008 11:12 AM |
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Or they are scared of it
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espen15
Famous Hero
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posted June 18, 2008 11:21 AM |
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enormous knowledge and arcane forge. so academy is really good in the late of the game when heroes got much knowledge that makes arcane forge creature artifacts stronger.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 18, 2008 05:31 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: Necro = wait for skellies
We got rid of that system in H5 , you usually need more meat power than skellies.
But the skellies are still a great key in Necro. lineup
And when you creep you will be likely to get more skellies then vampires(if you get what I mean?) because you will face more lvl 1 creatures
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted June 18, 2008 05:34 PM |
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Creeping is a different case, you will typically have 400 skelies in the final battle. Those can't affect the outcome much.
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Berny-Mac
Promising
Legendary Hero
Lord Vader
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posted June 18, 2008 08:15 PM |
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you don't know how much hurt 400 skellies can do to the guys with some lvl 7s. and 400 skelly warriors can really protect da liches
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