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NIght_Heaven
Adventuring Hero
Lonely star in heaven dream
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posted March 30, 2008 01:41 PM |
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Even if i love Academy and all that it means...I cant say it is the greatest power in heroes 5. My vote goes to Dungeon Dungeon can hack and slash their way to fortune lol
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 30, 2008 02:46 PM |
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currently my favorite is dungeon, but I still don't know necropolis.
the most powerful seems to be the sylve.
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lengoi
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 30, 2008 10:38 PM |
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Fortress with Ingvar is still strongest i'd say.
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sith_of_ziost
Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
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posted March 30, 2008 10:47 PM |
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imho, I think three factions win for various aspects of the game. During early game, Inferno w/ Alastor wins it for me, a hero starting with Confusion with direct line to many other Dark Spells.
In Midgame, the strongest faction I think is Vinrael with Sylvan because his enlightenment bonuses and his own give him a direct line to come across the abilities and the Ulti fast. Sylvan also has a great midgame.
In Endgame, I think that Jhora in Academy takes the gauntlet beacause her spells come raining down. She can buff, debuff, and destroy faster than any other in the game, and Academies endgame finishes are amazing. It takes that long to get all the units.
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Cleave
Promising
Famous Hero
Raging Blood
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posted March 30, 2008 11:07 PM |
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Quote: In Midgame, the strongest faction I think is Vinrael with Sylvan because his enlightenment bonuses and his own give him a direct line to come across the abilities and the Ulti fast. Sylvan also has a great midgame.
Vinrael can get Mentoring with ease which means that he can train other Rangers so that they get Battle Commander: hundreds of extra Battle Dancers.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted March 30, 2008 11:10 PM |
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Good idea, had not thought of that.
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HEBPEME
Hired Hero
I have TotE now!
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posted March 31, 2008 12:24 PM |
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Edited by HEBPEME at 12:39, 31 Mar 2008.
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@Cleave:
I agree with you that having no possibility to cleanse / dispell any spell is quite a handicap, but do not forget that i wouldn't go that far to say that inferno wins orcs just because of dark magic. First of all, we all know how big of a factor luck is in H5 games (i'm not talking about the "luck" skill ). Getting to an artifact faster than your opponent, or just beeing lucky enough to have the most important artifact on your part of map guarded by neutrals is often crucial. Then, of course, your opponent has to be lucky enough to get frenzy in his castle and so on. Many many many times it happened to me to not have the most important spell that i need even in THREE castles!!! What are the odds? But that is the part of the game. I was reffering to the orcs as one of the very strong factions. I wasn't commenting any particular matchup or vulnerability to a spell that makes ALL factions (except necro) tremble cuz it is usually beeing cast upon a unit that is about to take turn b4 hero. Still, with good artifacts and as buffed magic resistance as possible and shatter dark with perks, i think orcs can pull a victory and are not to be underestimated vs dark magic users.
Cheers
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted March 31, 2008 12:50 PM |
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[quoteVinrael can get Mentoring with ease which means that he can train other Rangers so that they get Battle Commander: hundreds of extra Battle Dancers. That's a great idea!
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zamrai
Adventuring Hero
Moonlight Melody
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posted March 31, 2008 01:09 PM |
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Edited by zamrai at 13:09, 31 Mar 2008.
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Quote: Vinrael can get Mentoring with ease which means that he can train other Rangers so that they get Battle Commander: hundreds of extra Battle Dancers.
Awesome idea! But does this practically work? You would need a large map (high level of hero with mentoring) and much "player luck" to get battle comander for the rest of your heroes.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted March 31, 2008 01:40 PM |
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Leadership has a 10% chance, I'd say that's as reliable as it can get.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted March 31, 2008 02:33 PM |
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In 4th week, you can get 140 dancers with 7 heroes, which is 17500 gold, twice the normal cost of 140 dancers. Gets better in 5th week (210 dancers).
Quite fun to do, but costs more than normal dancers do, and on two or three-castled map, there are better things to do than to overpay to get more dancers.
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carcity
Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
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posted May 05, 2008 01:55 PM |
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I wouldn't agree with that doomforge. in the 10th week and you have a lot of heroes and almost out of munny you use mentoring to get battle commandert with them all and you get a lot of war dancers.
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lead341
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 16, 2008 01:58 PM |
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I think the most advantageous faction is dungeon: with blood furies and black dragons you have two units which are always first to attack in a battle - decimating the enemy already significantly.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 16, 2008 02:25 PM |
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Black dragons are slow.
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Undead_Warrior
Known Hero
I hear voices in my head.
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posted May 16, 2008 03:21 PM |
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I voted Necropolis. And there is only one reason for it. RUSH.
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Disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
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posted May 17, 2008 09:58 PM |
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You can say might over magic as many times as you whant!
But academy still beats every one of them! (In my opinion )
Sorcery, Arcane Training, Intelegence (To make more out of Mana)
Arch Mages (Energy Channel)
Sar Issus artifacts (if you can manage to get some)
Go for Knowlegde and Spellpower (But still keep up attack and defence)
Tome of *** (great artifacts)
Destructive Magic, Master of fire or cold (To make direct spell damage more effective)
And ofcourse the arcaneforge (Usefull for high tire creatures in army)
Even if you challenge a Dungeon army with Black Dragons, you can win!
Just focus the strong units on Black Dragons, and then use you magic skills on the rest! Simple!
Dark magic, master of pain is usefull too!
You can get mass efefct on decay and get the Frenzy and puppet master spells!
They can be used on strong targets to kill the ones with magic imunity!
And slow, suffering, Vulnerability can lower the effect on enemys!
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Nikita
Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
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posted May 18, 2008 12:13 AM |
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might over magic!might over magic!might over magic!might over magic!might over magic!might over magic!might over magic!might over magic...
I do not agree with u.Academy is surely great,but u'r talking about SYLVAN,INFERNO,STRONGHOLD.(Academy can defeat them only in the dreams)
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SeraphLord
Hired Hero
The Hunter off Fallen Angels
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posted May 18, 2008 07:22 PM |
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Haven=Seraphs=Cool
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted May 18, 2008 07:47 PM |
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Academy is indeed one of the strongest faction. Best early game, multiple magics in late game.
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SeraphLord
Hired Hero
The Hunter off Fallen Angels
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posted May 18, 2008 08:00 PM |
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Academy is good i early but hard in late games.Have is in the middle.
Haven:
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