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Golemcrafter
Promising
Famous Hero
Unlimited Fantasy Master
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posted November 15, 2007 06:59 PM |
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I see that many of you likes thoose artifacts that gives extra initiatives. Especially you Homer Nice ones! And the chice of the others, too.
I don't think that luck is important for us, but the moral... I would say that play against a hero that has -1 to -5 luck is better even more if he has morale penalty.
The Knight's troops would be exrtemely successful if the haro has all the three morale-giving artifacts. (-2 morale for each attack is quite strong I think...)
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sdfx
Famous Hero
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posted November 15, 2007 07:58 PM |
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I gave Ossir 2 ring of speed + dragon armor and his emeralds had initiative 17. So, 2 ring of speed doesn't work anymore. Then, I gave him RoSpeed, RoCelerity and dragon armor. He had initiative 19.
So, it looks like it's multiplicative: 14*1.2*1.1*1.05 = 19.404
If it were additive then it would be: 14*1.35 = 18.9 and the game would say 18
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted November 15, 2007 08:08 PM |
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Knight: lions set, 2 Rings of Speed, Unicorn Horn Bow and a Golden Horseshoe.
Now thats evil
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted November 15, 2007 09:09 PM |
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I gave Ossir 2 ring of speed + dragon armor and his emeralds had initiative 17. So, 2 ring of speed doesn't work anymore. Then, I gave him RoSpeed, RoCelerity and dragon armor. He had initiative 19.
So, it looks like it's multiplicative: 14*1.2*1.1*1.05 = 19.404
If it were additive then it would be: 14*1.35 = 18.9 and the game would say 18
It's additive. Just for testing purposes, I made a tiny mod, that raised the initiative of my test creature (an ArchAngel) to exactly 100. Then I equipped a Hero with a single ArchAngel with different combinations of four Artifacts: Ring of Celerity (+10% speed), Ring of Speed (+20% speed), Dragon Wing Mantle (+10% speed for flyers), Dragon Scale Armor (+5% speed for Large Creatures).
RingC x2 = 120 init
RingS x2 = 120 init (so 2 Rings of Speed indeed do not work)
RingC + RingS = 130 init
Mantle + Armor = 115 init
RingC + RingS + Mantle + Armor = 145 init.
They're cummulative. Had they been multiplicative, the combination of 4 Artifacts would have yielded an init of 152,46.
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted November 15, 2007 10:28 PM |
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I like the fact that fast creatures benefits from initiative boosting artifacts the most. Vice versa Staff can really hurt Sylvan and Inferno. Whit tree ini artifacts Nightmares initiative can be boosted 16 to 21,6  Zombies has the lowest initiative and their boost would only be 6 to 8,1.
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Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
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sdfx
Famous Hero
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posted November 16, 2007 05:55 PM |
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Edited by sdfx at 17:55, 16 Nov 2007.
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How do you mod creature stats? Also, I still don't understand why in my example the game tells 19 instead of 18. I assume the game just "cuts off" the decimal part of initiative.
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skullman
Famous Hero
banned
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posted November 16, 2007 06:02 PM |
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All the dragon artifacts
But that are only 8 artifacts. Choose an extra Ring and something for your Pocket, too.
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im not sure right now
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted November 16, 2007 06:16 PM |
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How do you mod creature stats? Also, I still don't understand why in my example the game tells 19 instead of 18. I assume the game just "cuts off" the decimal part of initiative.
I think it actually rounds them. Anyway, you can find the creature stats under /GameMechanics/Creature/Creatures. In that folder, you will find some more folders, of the various factions (including one for Neutrals). Each one also contains a deeper folder yet, with the second upgrade data.
Ohh, and very cool - I just noticed it: it also contains files that dictate which cells are hit with special attacks (like the Pixie spray attack and the crossfire from Rune Priests).
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Golemcrafter
Promising
Famous Hero
Unlimited Fantasy Master
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posted November 16, 2007 07:08 PM |
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I edited to my starting post two new "dresses"...one for the Necromancer and one for the Ranger. I will continue later with the other heroes.
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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted November 16, 2007 07:45 PM |
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My demon lord is level one with...
neck: amulet of necromancy
weapon:runic war axe
sheild:tome of destructive magic
head:mask of equity
pocket:rune of flame
finger:ring of the unbroken will
finger2:ring of the unrepentant
inventory:tear of asha
shoulder: Dragon wing mantle (lol i made a typo :edited|)
chest:robe of sar-issus
feet:windstrider boots
i focused on making my demonlord fix some of the weaknesses of inferno such as haveing almost enough speed to cross the battlefield in one turn.
this is what i want my hero to wear before i send him out into battle
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Protection From Everything.
dota
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted November 16, 2007 09:14 PM |
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I think it actually rounds them.
Just made few tests whit Dragon Scales (5% initiative boost for 2hex) and it does round up. Treant or other low initiative creatures will not benefit from this but initiative of 10 (Colossus etc) will get now initiative of 11. So 0.5 or higher will automatically be rounded up and if it's lower it comes 0 of course. This is logical but just needed to test it that it's not always rounded down.
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Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 17, 2007 09:16 AM |
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My demon lord is level one with...
neck: amulet of necromancy
i focused on making my demonlord fix some of the weaknesses of inferno such as haveing almost enough speed to cross the battlefield in one turn.
this is what i want my hero to wear before i send him out into battle
What the hell is the amulet of necromancy for oO?
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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Golemcrafter
Promising
Famous Hero
Unlimited Fantasy Master
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posted November 17, 2007 09:33 AM |
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My demon lord is level one with...
neck: amulet of necromancy
i focused on making my demonlord fix some of the weaknesses of inferno such as haveing almost enough speed to cross the battlefield in one turn.
this is what i want my hero to wear before i send him out into battle
What the hell is the amulet of necromancy for oO?
I agree with Azagal. I would rather choose the Dragon Teeth Necklance. This artifact is great to make Pit Lords stronger. (I know that he is the only caster in Inferno, but the Dragon Teeth Necklance is more useful than the Amulet of Necromancy in this manner.)
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted November 17, 2007 12:44 PM |
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If I can't get the complete dragonset...(common 1 free level 7 a day? No wonder it takes 8 pieces) and a ring of speed with Horseshoe...
For Sylvan I would go with...
Archers dream
+1 damage necklace
As many init boosting arties I can get
For the places I can't find init boosters..Attack Boosters
or -init for enemy.
Ring of Vitality if can't get a Ring of C/S combo
Sadly I can't remember names of thing so well. *sighs*. Or I would give more examples.
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Message received.
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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted November 17, 2007 01:07 PM |
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My demon lord is level one with...
neck: amulet of necromancy
i focused on making my demonlord fix some of the weaknesses of inferno such as haveing almost enough speed to cross the battlefield in one turn.
this is what i want my hero to wear before i send him out into battle
What the hell is the amulet of necromancy for oO?
I agree with Azagal. I would rather choose the Dragon Teeth Necklance. This artifact is great to make Pit Lords stronger. (I know that he is the only caster in Inferno, but the Dragon Teeth Necklance is more useful than the Amulet of Necromancy in this manner.)
Oh well you see i was gonna have deaths embrace (dont ask why) but i changed my mind and must have forgotten to change it.
but that doesn't mean i'm changing my mind...
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