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Lesij
Lesij


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posted January 01, 2008 01:08 PM

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ok, i think people said that over a hunred times now.
EDIT: i made an Azure Dragon! i think it looks awesome, all credit to Replace Colour



It looks gorgeus I think, but having three dragons with the same model is kinda strange, IMHO...
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WarLore
WarLore


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posted January 01, 2008 01:21 PM

well, because shiny doesnt fit to rust dragon,but we should also think,if we want "real" rust dragon,then it should be mechanical not elemental or living creature. well,i try to do black dragon to rust dragon,kmp123 had allready done it but i try make darker version .but here is picture one my tests for azure dragon,i remember it from H3,and it was more bad dragon look than good cute dragon look(Cristal dragon).


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sfidanza


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posted January 01, 2008 01:39 PM

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I'm not sure if this was a mistake on my part, but does anyone know if there is a tier 8 in H5?


I have to contradict Wulfstan8182 here: the Hive and the Avatar of Death are tier 8 creatures. So the game can handle them, and I think you can make a neutral creature tier 8 without breaking anything.

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Orfinn
Orfinn


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posted January 01, 2008 02:02 PM

Erm guys, you who want to use dungeons dragon model for new dragon types but dont want the armor on, why dont you fellas just use the shadow dragon model?? Its a pure model without armor and such, though the eyes could glow a bit more... like blackies.
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WarLore
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posted January 01, 2008 02:13 PM

well,if u talking to me,i want use black dragon.
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WarLore
WarLore


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posted January 01, 2008 03:06 PM
Edited by WarLore at 15:38, 01 Jan 2008.



okay, infernoX880 here is rust dragon model used by black Dragon.hope you like it,if you want that i chance something,just say
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InfernoX880
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posted January 01, 2008 05:35 PM

@Warlore
I'm sorry for redoing your own model, but I wanted a general idea of the small details I was looking for. Here are the things you should try to do with the Black Dragon model:
1) Make the eyes, and the veins on the wings glow green (if you're using GIMP, go to color balance, set Green to 100, Yellow to 100 (or -100 in this case) for all three details, Shadows, Midtones and Highlights).
2) Make the spikes along the back go away. This can be done easily b using an eraser in almost any editing program.
3) Its not possible to remove the armor, but try to see if its possible to make it look like the armor is "megred" onto the head. This can be done by blurring the skin-armor line and making the color very similar.

Very nice altogether, though you posted something like this before. Sorry again for copying your model but if you read under it, you may have noticed the words "all credit goes to you".

@Wulfstan
Excellent job with the Azure. Here is a rundown on a few very small details that I would like changed:
1) Make the eye have a very weak sparkle.
2) Likewise with the edges of the wings (remember, VERY weak sparkle, not Crystal Dragon type of sparkle)
3) Erase the things at the edges of the end of the tail that look like...scales. Just make the tail a normal pointed one without anything sticking out.
4) I haven't thought of this yet, but try to add or take away something that will make it look different than the original Rainbow Dragon from whence it came.

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isabelyes
isabelyes


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posted January 01, 2008 05:37 PM

original rainbow dragon???
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InfernoX880
InfernoX880


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posted January 01, 2008 05:44 PM

In order to avoid confusion with the new Crystal Dragon (the one I made), I call the alternative Sylvan upgrade the Rainbow Dragon and the high powered neutral creature the Crystal Dragon.

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WarLore
WarLore


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posted January 01, 2008 05:53 PM

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@Warlore
I'm sorry for redoing your own model, but I wanted a general idea of the small details I was looking for. Here are the things you should try to do with the Black Dragon model:
1) Make the eyes, and the veins on the wings glow green (if you're using GIMP, go to color balance, set Green to 100, Yellow to 100 (or -100 in this case) for all three details, Shadows, Midtones and Highlights).
2) Make the spikes along the back go away. This can be done easily b using an eraser in almost any editing program.
3) Its not possible to remove the armor, but try to see if its possible to make it look like the armor is "megred" onto the head. This can be done by blurring the skin-armor line and making the color very similar.

Very nice altogether, though you posted something like this before. Sorry again for copying your model but if you read under it, you may have noticed the words "all credit goes to you".

1)i think that is easy to fix
2)i think that make this dragon model look pretty dorky
3)if you dont want armor for dragon,then we must use shadow dragon model,but that doesnt fit to rust dragon as well black dragon.but you will see new model later today or tomorrow just wait.


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InfernoX880
InfernoX880


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posted January 01, 2008 06:25 PM

All right, most important thng in my opinion is the glowing green. For the spikes, we can infr rust leads to decapitation so delet a few of the spikes and if possible, make the remaining spikes look as if they were in terrible condition. In fact, try making all the remaining metal look as if it were in poor condition. Don't use Shadow Dragon model, I want some metal on it, but the armor at the head makes it look too much like Black Dragon. I want this thing to look in such a way that a person who uses this mod will think to himself "Which model did they use?"

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WarLore
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posted January 01, 2008 07:28 PM
Edited by WarLore at 20:01, 01 Jan 2008.



okay here is little chances what i did,i chanced eyes color to toxic green and blur head.I also added some details to armor.i will edit it tomorrow more. as you can see,i didn't find out how make veins to glow green
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Wulfstan8182
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, eh?
posted January 01, 2008 07:38 PM
Edited by Wulfstan8182 at 19:39, 01 Jan 2008.

i tried to remove the spikes at the talk and on his back to make him more personalized, but...

i don't know if you see it but the dragon had holes in his tail and the back. i used the alhpa layers technique. and about the rusty, i think we should use the red dragon model.
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WarLore
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posted January 01, 2008 07:46 PM

well i dont think so.
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MrDragon
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posted January 01, 2008 08:02 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 20:06, 01 Jan 2008.

Its all quite simple.

Crystal or Green Dragon should be used for Azure.
Black or Red for the Rust.
Magma Dragon for Crystal.

Further neutral ideas shouldn't be limited to the H3 ones, we can come up with some good ideas ourselves.

Venom Spawn (recolored fire elemental with Wyvern's Venom ability.)
Magma Guardian (recolored earth elemental with fiery effect and Fire Armor ability.)
Flayed One (Undead minotaur with Unlimited Retaliation and Life Drain.)
Rakshaha Sheikh (Rakshaha caster with Circle of Frost and Vampirism)

Oh and Warlore, I disagree with the refurbishing of your Rust Dragon, it  looked better before in _my opinion_.

But perhaps somebody will give the Wyvern a shot at Rustyness, who knows how that might turn out.
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InfernoX880
InfernoX880


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posted January 01, 2008 08:07 PM

@Warlore
When you get a chance, send me the Rust Dragon image you have now and if possible the one before that (the one that I told you to make changes to). I will work on the veins and try the armor thing.

@Wulfstan
I think it should be possible. I will make an alternate Rainbow Dragon of my own to see if it works, then I can tell you what else should be changed.

@MrDragon
As you can see, Rainbow Dragon is being used for Azure.
Black Dragon is being used for Rust.
Crystal Dragon was finished a week ago.

I like your ideas, but have one comment regarding the new Rakshasa. It can't really cast spells. I mean it can, but the animation would look retarted.

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MrDragon
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posted January 01, 2008 08:24 PM

Not if we use its attack animation rather then the Dash animation.
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InfernoX880
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posted January 01, 2008 08:46 PM

...interesting. I guess that might work.

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MrDragon
MrDragon


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posted January 01, 2008 08:51 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 20:54, 01 Jan 2008.

Here's a question.

Can we increase/decrease the scale of a creatures model and still have it work?

If so that opens up the window to the Fearie Dragon which should be a bit smaller.

And then I got another Idea:

Einherjar:
A berzerker with stony gray skin and black armor/blades.
I was thinking Double Strike and Unlimited retaliation to reflect its dedication to fighting.
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Cepheus
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posted January 01, 2008 08:55 PM

From what I've heard, I don't believe that can be done directly.  However, it might be possible if you somehow turn a creature's model into an effect, turn the creature transparent and apply the model-effect to the transparent creature, which you can then resize.

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