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kermit
Known Hero
Soul hunter
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posted December 31, 2007 12:32 PM |
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Memory Mentor
I was playing around with the Memory Mentor the other day and remarked some amusing issues with it. So being the generous person I am I thought I'd share it with the community 
I hope you people will find this information usefull and care to share your own findings 
Sorcery:
Taking the Arcan Excellence perk several times results in gaining 100 mana each time taken
Learning Magic Insight several times (and keeping the skill) lets you learn spells of at least lvl 4 and maybe lvl 5 from schools you have no mastery in. Spells can be learned from arcane libraries, mage vaults, or via the scholar skill.
I'm not quite sure about lvl 5 since I haven't tested it extensively having relearned it only twice.
To be continued ...
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted December 31, 2007 12:36 PM |
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Don't forget. You keep the bonus stats from enlightenment even if you get rid of it. You can learn the level up perk, forget it (keeping the level) and put something else in it's place. You can ditch skills like scholor or Battle Lore with keeping whatever they have gave you (ie spells or battle cries).
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Message received.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 31, 2007 12:37 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 12:38, 31 Dec 2007.
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Interesting thread kermit
I'd be interested to learn what happens with enlightenment and one time boots to a stat such as secrets of destruction. I don't think you lose the stats on unlearning them but do you gain them double? And what about perks that give free units? If you can't check them at your save I could have a look in a custom map.
Something else.. At sometime I had filled all my skills/perks and when I unlearnt something I was not given a new one. Don't know if that was a random temporary bug or it has to do with the skills being full.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted December 31, 2007 02:22 PM |
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About enlightment, I would believe to balance that you would have to remove the bonuses you have had from it. And really nice idea to keep getting free lvls .. get your ultimate hero in no time .
P.S. This made me wonder how long until the new patch comes ?
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
lead. Don't walk in front of me;
I may not follow. Just walk
beside me and be my friend.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted December 31, 2007 02:57 PM |
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I wasn't able to test it unfortunately, but maybe you did.
If there is a tree skills (if you wanna get them you have to take some others), if you cut one of the "branch's" part, will u loose the skill, for eg. if you wanna get rid of ressistance, do you loose Luck of baba (if you have it already)
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Duncan
Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
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posted December 31, 2007 04:38 PM |
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Heh, no Les, isn't that in such case you've to remove LotB first before able to remove MR? Just like you've to remove the 3rd perk before able to remove its associated Expert skill?
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But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted December 31, 2007 05:03 PM |
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Edited by Lesij at 17:03, 31 Dec 2007.
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I'm asking about that.
You haven't responsed me but asked simply the same questions as I did
I don't know if that "no" thing is the response or is it somethig else O_O?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted December 31, 2007 07:47 PM |
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Ok guys look: Let's take a Demon Lord (because they are sooo awesome) open the skill wheel and you'll understand even better.
Lets take Expert Enlightenment and "Mentoring" as skills. Now it is not possible to unlearn any perk of Enlightenment before you unlearn Mentoring. It is also impossible to unlearn Enlightenment without removeing all it's perks. I hope that made things clearer.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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Duncan
Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
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posted January 01, 2008 04:25 AM |
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@Lesij: Sorry, my question was kinda rhetorical My second statement was the confirmation. In fact, in the game, any skill/perk you're able to remove is highlighted, those that cannot (because being prerequisites of something else) aren't and can't be selected.
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But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it.
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Moonlith
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
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posted January 01, 2008 09:01 AM |
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Ironicly, the orc boost of goblins (2 for every warrior you have) skill doesn't work multiple times when you re-learn it.
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TemjinGold
Known Hero
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posted January 02, 2008 04:44 AM |
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The Enlightenment thing doesn't seem to work with everyone. In campaigns, it worked fine for Gotai but when I tried with Zehir, he lost the stats along with the skill tree.
As for people that these bugs work for, you don't get double for relearning (you simply get nothing.)
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