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antipaladin
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Quote: To be quite frank I wouldn't give a single damn if a group of people in my country decided to become independant and made their own nation.
oh yes you would,if it was your land,or the land of your forfathers..some land you cared about and belonged to you..
Quote: I don’t think there is anything wrong with loving one’s country.
Me too,too a degree. loving to much is right nationlism,extream nationlism is dumb,unjustifed and down right stupid.
your country might be better then mine by all standerts,but the people might not,and i might feel offended if you display your right nationlism to me (this is just an exmple).
Quote: You should go and read the whole thing about balkans and then say something not influenced by anything.Our land has 2.000.000 people so we are group now?You now what,leave such comments about Montenegro-Serbian sites as montenegro got indepedant
well you see seraphim,this hes opinion and he might as well say it,its also have true,becouse they are backed by westerns,mostly no balkan-eastern european country backed kosovo...
china didnt' and no did russia.USA did just becouse Russia and China Didnt'.
Quote: Thanks, I was just a little curious about your opinion since I'm Irish myself.
i was meaning to ask you this conclusion i got to..
Guals(aicnet france) are celts,scots are celts,irish,picts,britons,welsh,and celtic tribes,that inhabites england pre roman times right? picts and scots and irish united..along with the britons who are also celts..the 'english' are anglo-saxon and norman(german and franch),thus The UK is made out of pure european roots
as for what happend in Belgarde..
I'll call them rioteers what i think they derseve to be,Terrorists.
Becouse USA was the first country..blah blah..Terrorist.what are they trying to proff? can they actually thread the USA? Donkey nuts! Dammn Terrorists just acting on impulse..
you know what seprates men and beast? men can withstand his impulses,a beast cannot'.
my 2 cents
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Seraphim
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posted February 24, 2008 10:48 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: To be quite frank I wouldn't give a single damn if a group of people in my country decided to become independant and made their own nation.
oh yes you would,if it was your land,or the land of your forfathers..some land you cared about and belonged to you..
Quote: I don’t think there is anything wrong with loving one’s country.
Me too,too a degree. loving to much is right nationlism,extream nationlism is dumb,unjustifed and down right stupid.
your country might be better then mine by all standerts,but the people might not,and i might feel offended if you display your right nationlism to me (this is just an exmple).
Quote: You should go and read the whole thing about balkans and then say something not influenced by anything.Our land has 2.000.000 people so we are group now?You now what,leave such comments about Montenegro-Serbian sites as montenegro got indepedant
well you see seraphim,this hes opinion and he might as well say it,its also have true,becouse they are backed by westerns,mostly no balkan-eastern european country backed kosovo...
china didnt' and no did russia.USA did just becouse Russia and China Didnt'.
Quote: Thanks, I was just a little curious about your opinion since I'm Irish myself.
i was meaning to ask you this conclusion i got to..
Guals(aicnet france) are celts,scots are celts,irish,picts,britons,welsh,and celtic tribes,that inhabites england pre roman times right? picts and scots and irish united..along with the britons who are also celts..the 'english' are anglo-saxon and norman(german and franch),thus The UK is made out of pure european roots
as for what happend in Belgarde..
I'll call them rioteers what i think they derseve to be,Terrorists.
Becouse USA was the first country..blah blah..Terrorist.what are they trying to proff? can they actually thread the USA? Donkey nuts! Dammn Terrorists just acting on impulse..
you know what seprates men and beast? men can withstand his impulses,a beast cannot'.
my 2 cents
They were not backed by western powers.more than 55% were set by EU as a line,so if the overall voters number was higher they could make such a movement but if not than that was a failure to proceed.
About Kosovo,Russia said it will declare war to Kosovo if the situation in their favor does not change.How diplomatic can this all be?OK with these and that but war?OK,I need a break now.
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antipaladin
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posted February 24, 2008 11:00 PM |
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3 of the most pwoerfull countrys in the EU are france ,germany,and britian.
Quote: ,Russia said it will declare war to Kosovo if the situation in their favor does not change.How diplomatic can this all be?OK with these and that but war
Good morning to the reality im facing every day since 60 years ago when my country was created.
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watcher83
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posted February 25, 2008 09:44 AM |
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@ watcher83
You should go and read the whole thing about balkans and then say something not influenced by anything.Our land has 2.000.000 people so we are group now?You now what,leave such comments about Montenegro-Serbian sites as montenegro got indepedant
with a population of 600.000 with 50% serbs there.Now why should not we get indepedence with 90% of Albanians? Logical?The whole resistence of serbs is pathetic.
@ baklava
I am not influenced by any political sayings or development in my land.It is clearly opinion over facts and not facts over opinion.
I know a bit of history myself, If we don't agree that's another matter
Anyway, Baklava said most of what I wanted to say so ...that's all
@ Corribus - Croatia is a very beautiful and safe country, I had a great time there
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yasmiel
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posted February 25, 2008 02:17 PM |
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Quote: But isn't Ireland poor by Western European standards?
Thats the least important of worries. It's not like people are starving there, they have enough. And excess of money doesn't make people happy (well, me at least).
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DarkShadow
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posted February 25, 2008 02:20 PM |
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we could start pointing to greedy countries for that.
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angelito
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posted February 25, 2008 02:26 PM |
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Quote: But isn't Ireland poor by Western European standards?
I don't know any western european country which can be called "poor" by Western European standards to be honest.
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zamfir
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posted February 29, 2008 09:00 PM |
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Kosovo
Everybody speaks of Kosovo, but none of Moldova. Those russian stole it from us Romainians in 1948, after WWII. Now Moldova is a separate country, tough me have commoc border, but almost all in Moldova are actually Romanians. Their language is Romanian, and their flags is almost the same. Besides, Romani's region close to the Moldova country is also called Moldova. Molovians come to make holidays in Romania.
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Homam
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posted March 04, 2008 03:18 PM |
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Independence of Kosovo opens up Pandora's box as Putin said.True.Balkans aren't stabilized for so many years.This independence will destabilize even more the Balkans.So many issues opens this one side independence. Now the Serbs of Bosnia want their independence and they have right.They saw that this action worked.
Turks want to send army in Kosovo.Russians want to support Serbs because they don't like the American influence in their neighborhood and they are waiting for a wrong movement to take action.
Albanians nationalists dream of Big Albania.They claim that grounds of Serbia,Montenegro,Bosnia and Herzegovina,F.Y.R.O.M and Greece are their and they will take them back.The beginning took place with Kosovo.Maybe all these are just in sick minds of a bunch of Albanian nationalists but as long as Albania enjoys such great support of Bush's government we all must concern.
These actions have a great affection in many countries in the area.Specially small weak countries for the Balkan standards.A living example is that of F.Y.R.O.M. Skopje know how difficult is the situation for their small country.A country with so many mixes without a clear identity,a country like that would be an easy target.So what they can do to secure their not so bright future?Propaganda.These Slavs claim they are Macedonians and having such great history.Steal a part of bright Greek history in their struggle for survival.
Greece wants to protect it's history.It has the right.All the historical facts are with greeks.They have every right to block F.Y.R.O.M joining NATO and EU.
To sum up i think that Balkans from north to south and east to west are boiling.Balkans are really the Bush-Putin playground.
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posted March 08, 2008 12:46 AM |
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I got to say that its stupid that Kosovo should be its own country.
I mean they have NOTHING! And why cant they just live in Serbia?
We will have to give them lots of money and rescourses just because they want their old country.
And i understand why Serbia is angry.
What if a group of people in your country suddenly "steals" a large amount of your country and claims that it is their own country.
(Althougt i would gladly give away the southern part of Sweden to Denmark ).
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Totoro
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posted March 08, 2008 02:54 PM |
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It's just cool to be part of something. Kosovians don't feel like they're serbs so they just feel like they are nothing if they don't have their own nation.
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posted March 08, 2008 03:11 PM |
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I wouldn't care if the United States would choose to split into 50 states. As long as they had a common currency and a free trade agreement.
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TheDeath
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posted March 08, 2008 03:27 PM |
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Quote: What if a group of people in your country suddenly "steals" a large amount of your country and claims that it is their own country.
Well the public has vast powers
Quote: I wouldn't care if the United States would choose to split into 50 states. As long as they had a common currency and a free trade agreement.
I'm not so sure it would work that good in practice
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Seraphim
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posted March 08, 2008 04:19 PM |
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Quote: Independence of Kosovo opens up Pandora's box as Putin said.True.Balkans aren't stabilized for so many years.This independence will destabilize even more the Balkans.So many issues opens this one side independence. Now the Serbs of Bosnia want their independence and they have right.They saw that this action worked.
Turks want to send army in Kosovo.Russians want to support Serbs because they don't like the American influence in their neighborhood and they are waiting for a wrong movement to take action.
Albanians nationalists dream of Big Albania.They claim that grounds of Serbia,Montenegro,Bosnia and Herzegovina,F.Y.R.O.M and Greece are their and they will take them back.The beginning took place with Kosovo.Maybe all these are just in sick minds of a bunch of Albanian nationalists but as long as Albania enjoys such great support of Bush's government we all must concern.
These actions have a great affection in many countries in the area.Specially small weak countries for the Balkan standards.A living example is that of F.Y.R.O.M. Skopje know how difficult is the situation for their small country.A country with so many mixes without a clear identity,a country like that would be an easy target.So what they can do to secure their not so bright future?Propaganda.These Slavs claim they are Macedonians and having such great history.Steal a part of bright Greek history in their struggle for survival.
Greece wants to protect it's history.It has the right.All the historical facts are with greeks.They have every right to block F.Y.R.O.M joining NATO and EU.
To sum up i think that Balkans from north to south and east to west are boiling.Balkans are really the Bush-Putin playground.
He,hehehe.Really?!?
Serbia is Kosovo.The lands of sebia belong to us.The lands of Chameria belong to us and many more.
(Let the anti_kosovo attacks begin)
I like to see people speaking junk across their pathetic cause to prevent the things that happend.Yay,keep yelling.
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posted March 10, 2008 11:14 PM |
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He,hehehe.Really?!?
Serbia is Kosovo.The lands of sebia belong to us.The lands of Chameria belong to us and many more.
(Let the anti_kosovo attacks begin)
I like to see people speaking junk across their pathetic cause to prevent the things that happend.Yay,keep yelling.
Yeah and u keep dreaming.Serbia is Serbia and u in Kosovo are still Serbia.And stop your nationalist bs.These bs brought Balkans to this tragic position
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baklava
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posted March 10, 2008 11:37 PM |
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Homam, mate, let it go. No point arguing with a brick wall.
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mvassilev
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posted March 10, 2008 11:46 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: I wouldn't care if the United States would choose to split into 50 states. As long as they had a common currency and a free trade agreement.
I'm not so sure it would work that good in practice
It probably wouldn't work as well as it does now, but it wouldn't be so much worse that I'd fight over it.
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Seraphim
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posted March 11, 2008 12:26 AM |
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He,hehehe.Really?!?
Serbia is Kosovo.The lands of sebia belong to us.The lands of Chameria belong to us and many more.
(Let the anti_kosovo attacks begin)
I like to see people speaking junk across their pathetic cause to prevent the things that happend.Yay,keep yelling.
Yeah and u keep dreaming.Serbia is Serbia and u in Kosovo are still Serbia.And stop your nationalist bs.These bs brought Balkans to this tragic position
Yeah,keep dreaming.It is the best thing you can do when you already lost.
I am living in a coutry called the indepedent Republic of Kosova.
And the.... whatever,why speaking with rocks!
AKA:I would like to judge something,my coutry is now legitime and your sayings are RACISTIC.I am no serb to live in serbia.
Anyway,greedy neighbours across my country are not wellcome.
EDIT: I would like to add something about Homam:
Graeca fides, nulla fides
Translation: "No one trusts a Greek (Greek honesty is no honesty)"
Nice latin proverb,ehh?It was always so,you made always treachery above the Albanians.Wow,even the old romans knew that.
I am soo sorry for being un-kind.
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Homam
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posted March 11, 2008 02:25 AM |
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Yeah,keep dreaming.It is the best thing you can do when you already lost.
I am living in a coutry called the indepedent Republic of Kosova.
And the.... whatever,why speaking with rocks!
AKA:I would like to judge something,my coutry is now legitime and your sayings are RACISTIC.I am no serb to live in serbia.
Anyway,greedy neighbours across my country are not wellcome.
EDIT: I would like to add something about Homam:
Graeca fides, nulla fides
Translation: "No one trusts a Greek (Greek honesty is no honesty)"
Nice latin proverb,ehh?It was always so,you made always treachery above the Albanians.Wow,even the old romans knew that.
I am soo sorry for being un-kind.
Well let's see.You took a latin proverb who says that.I could easily take a thousand worldwide proverbs that they say the best.I could take historical,cultural facts that also would praise Greeks.But i won't do it.It would be consider as a nationalistic.But i will play your game and i'm asking u this:Give me a quote,a saying a proverb no matter good or bad anything who says a simple word about Albanians.
I bet nothing.
It's clear the fact of your nationalistic sick dreams.I know about your big Idea about the grounds u think as yours.I know what the six stars in the flag of your new "country" what really represents.
All i say is that such ideas and such actions the only thing can do is destabilize more and more the area.Hate and racism
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baklava
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posted March 11, 2008 10:47 AM |
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While we're at Latin.
@Seraphim
Claude os, aperi oculos.
@HoMaM
Cum recte vivis, ne cures verba malorum.
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