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Could someone explain me the negative outcome for Serbia if Kosovo becomes independant?
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posted January 30, 2008 08:33 PM |
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You don't know the situation, trust me. Telling me that the killers of my friends are for Kosovo indipendance doesn't tell me anything new. Nor do the Montenegrian traitors who had failed their proud ancestors. I really think I can't talk to you about Kosovo. But Serbia won't let Kosovo be indipendant.
Lier!You killed my people.
edit:Can you tell me which time my landsman had made an assault for ethnic cleaning in serbia?PLEASE GIVE ME THE ANSWER?
As for Kosovo independence.Kosovo never belonged to serbia,does not belong and will never belong to serbia.DE FACTO.
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posted January 30, 2008 10:31 PM |
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Lier!You killed my people.
The important thing is that mods do not see any national hatred in these threads. 
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Can you tell me which time my landsman had made an assault for ethnic cleaning in serbia?PLEASE GIVE ME THE ANSWER?
Well if you insist...
Let's start with this. Or if you prefer videos, you can see this.
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posted January 30, 2008 10:45 PM |
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Should i start posting what you did at kosovo war and some facts 150 years ago. .
Come KLA is terroritstic so? So the innocents are guilty in your eyes as by all.
AHAHAHHAHA:Serbian "milicia"Killed my landsman at the city center and what worse is that they made some holes in the ground so they can mass murder Kosovars like in Bosnia.I think with such a resistence I begin to doubt the breed of hate and treachery started by some "killer"people.
KLA was a indepence fighter group not terrorist.As for NATO bombarding some parts of Belgrade,well they brought the language to talk to the Milosevic administration.
Ps:Congratulations to your new PM.AKA:He was the director of a orthodox graveyard in Belgrade.It could get tight.
edit MG;the video was a protest and demostartion in kosovo for indepence and democracy.How many of your serbs think that you can hold kosovo?
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posted January 30, 2008 11:15 PM |
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Should i start posting what you did at kosovo war and some facts 150 years ago.
Feel free to.
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Come KLA is terroritstic so? So the innocents are guilty in your eyes as by all.
Of course not. But the KLA and everyone who cooperates with them ARE guilty.
Besides, the articles I posted aren't only about KLA.
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AHAHAHHAHA:Serbian "milicia"Killed my landsman at the city center and what worse is that they made some holes in the ground so they can mass murder Kosovars like in Bosnia.I think with such a resistence I begin to doubt the breed of hate and treachery started by some "killer"people.
1) Laughing about such matters shows clear signs of insanity.
2) Militia of Slobodan Milosevic's regime. Which we've overthrown 8 years ago. I think it's PRETTY GOD DAMN OBVIOUS that the Serbian people as a whole did not support that. I believe even you can see that.
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KLA was a indepence fighter group not terrorist.
But you just said that they are terroristic...
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As for NATO bombarding some parts of Belgrade,well they brought the language to talk to the Milosevic administration.
Then why didn't they bomb Milosevic, but innocent people and civilians?
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Ps:Congratulations to your new PM.AKA:He was the director of a orthodox graveyard in Belgrade.It could get tight.
People like you make me sad I'm human sometimes. Seriously.
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posted January 30, 2008 11:30 PM |
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Hey,now I am insane?Huh wow,now I can say its really tight.Yeah,waht about the time when he visited Kosovo at 1998 Kosovo?The serbs there started complaing about Kosovars klling serbs and he said something like we will retaliate.Well,my landsman were killed by the"Milicia"and you supported much Milosevic well not as long as he lost fame and was counted as a criminal.
For other videos,I do not have time these last days,so maybe at friday I have time to deal with it,I got much work with it.
As for other sayings liek about your president,well i wanted to say that he has no University degree thats all.
Edit:Another thing,Milicia was the serbo-yugoslav police that commited most of the crimes + army.
Edit:Sorry I do not mean Mr Kostunica but Mr Tomislav Nikolic
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posted January 30, 2008 11:39 PM |
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The serbs there started complaing about Kosovars klling serbs and he said something like we will retaliate.Well,my landsman were killed by the"Milicia"and you supported much Milosevic well not as long as he lost fame and was counted as a criminal.
Serbs on Kosovo complained to Milosevic because they had no one else to resort to. What does that tell you of the treatment they received from the Albanian minority?
At the same time, students protested in Belgrade against Milosevic.
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For other videos,I do not have time these last days,so maybe at friday I have time to deal with it,I got much work with it.
But I only posted one video, and two texts. It doesn't take much time to read, provided you know how to read.
But alright. I wouldn't want to mess up with your schedule. 
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As for other sayings liek about your president,well i wanted to say that he has no University degree thats all.
Sure didn't sound like that...
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posted January 30, 2008 11:47 PM |
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The serbs there started complaing about Kosovars klling serbs and he said something like we will retaliate.Well,my landsman were killed by the"Milicia"and you supported much Milosevic well not as long as he lost fame and was counted as a criminal.
Serbs on Kosovo complained to Milosevic because they had no one else to resort to. What does that tell you of the treatment they received from the Albanian minority?
At the same time, students protested in Belgrade against Milosevic.
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For other videos,I do not have time these last days,so maybe at friday I have time to deal with it,I got much work with it.
But I only posted one video, and two texts. It doesn't take much time to read, provided you know how to read.
But alright. I wouldn't want to mess up with your schedule.
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As for other sayings liek about your PM,well i wanted to say that he has no University degree thats all.
Sure didn't sound like that...
Ermmm,how many students? And students right?OK I understand now.
And else about my schedule do nto worry there are many videos for our side to.Just keep searching.
We were a minority in Yugoslavia but a majority in Kosovo.
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posted January 31, 2008 12:06 PM |
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From the last presidental election where Milosevic won (because he didn't show any signs of his dark side) people only gathered hate for him. DOS (Democratic opposition of Serbia) got 70% of votes in 2000. and nowadays and before that, a maximum for a political party was 30%. The student protest 'OTPOR!' was massive and did not only atract students but everyone. You know what happened on the 5. of October, don't you? Milosevic didn't submit to the real results of the presidental elections, and he didn't want to let Vojislav Kostunica win. So, when the public heard that, 5. October happened.
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posted January 31, 2008 12:38 PM |
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Lier!You killed my people.
Warning. Next time u will recieve a penalty.Quote:
The important thing is that mods do not see any national hatred in these threads.
Warning to you aswell. No provocation.....
And I don't see national hatred here. As far as I know, he is right. Serbs killed a lot of Kosovars in that time, right?
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Ermmm,how many students? And students right?OK I understand now.
Knowing you, no, you probably don't understand. And neither are you informed at all about what I'm talking about.
It's called the student protests because they formed the majority of people marching through the streets. Thousands of students. Middle aged people were also quite anti-Milosevic, just like old folks. Those were anti-Milosevic times.
A year later, in 1999, we got bombed - some of those same students who marched against Milosevic and many other people were just collateral damage - which delayed the revolution planned for about a year. Then, in October 2000, after the USA stopped helping us, we took him down.
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Warning to you aswell. No provocation.....
Sure. Give me a -QP cause he calls members murderers.
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And I don't see national hatred here. As far as I know, he is right. Serbs killed a lot of Kosovars in that time, right?
Well, I sure as hell didn't kill anyone, and neither did Vidoja. So why are we and our people as a whole being called killers? Why are our posts called junk?
You're German. How would you feel if someone started calling you a killer because of world wars?
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posted January 31, 2008 01:00 PM |
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Maybe u missunderstand some englishe phrases here Baklava?
I am pretty sure u know the 2 different meanings of the word "You".
And if he says YOU (you serbs!) killed my people, he just states a known fact.
If he says "LIAR"!, he posts a direct insult which is against the CoC, therfore he recieved the warning.
You on the other hand start to provoke the moderators, which is of course not the same as a direct insult, but still against the CoC.
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posted January 31, 2008 02:30 PM |
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Maybe u missunderstand some englishe phrases here Baklava?
I am pretty sure u know the 2 different meanings of the word "You".
And if he says YOU (you serbs!) killed my people, he just states a known fact.
If he says "LIAR"!, he posts a direct insult which is against the CoC, therfore he recieved the warning.
You on the other hand start to provoke the moderators, which is of course not the same as a direct insult, but still against the CoC.
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OK, when we are going to be like that:
You! You have destroyed our churches, killed our people, and raped our women. You've burnt our houses, molested our people and you think that we are worse than you. You're wrong. (this is also a known fact, I'll give references if you want) When we are going to insult eachother with the 'YOU' word meaning your people, we're going to be like that. Morale is going to decrese in this forum, and if that is how you look at things angelito, you're increasing the fall of morale.
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posted January 31, 2008 02:57 PM |
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I think the time has come to cut the "free speach" and close this thread, nothing good will ever come from it as it seems same 3 or 4 members are always posting and agravating the situation over and over again...
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posted January 31, 2008 03:29 PM |
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That is what I said. Close it, but noooo.... angelito said : -Maybe some more people'll post. But when he says that it is wise not to penalty a insult, I'll return the same way I was insulted.
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posted January 31, 2008 04:04 PM |
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That is what I said. Close it, but noooo....
Maybe u just stop posting here and we see how it is going then...
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But when he says that it is wise not to penalty a insult, I'll return the same way I was insulted.
When did I say this? You really should calm down a bit. I think pandora already wrote some lines to you about your mood and the way you post.
Of course this is a very difficile topic. But I think it is wrong to just cut down such discussions only because some guys have yet to learn to take a second breath first before they reply. Some lack of life experience I suppose....
I am pretty sure if these 3-4 members get their feelings straight and try to understand the other opinion and then reply with blood pressure below 180, this can be an ok thread.
Just try it, will ya?
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After I wrote 5 capital letters, pandora gave me a penalty. Than, I left this thread a bit, and I come and see that you didn't give the penalty to someone that is decreasing the morale on this forum. He doesn't even wanna discuss anything he just says:
Liar! You've killed my people!
Kosovo is indipentant. DE FACTO!
I always try to let others feel nice, but when someone doesn't wanna do the same thing, and it's not penaltiezed, I must retaliate. I have advised you to close this thread. On my behalf, I didn't do anything bad. But if you don't like me because of my nationality, cause you think I am the heir of terrorist Slobodan Milosevic, and you think I shouldn't post, than, I dunno what to say...
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posted January 31, 2008 09:01 PM |
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...and I come and see that you didn't give the penalty to someone that is decreasing the morale on this forum...
Moderators have different possibilities to handle "law-breaking" actions here on board. I don't think penalizing should be the first option, and that's how most, if not all, moderators think. We normally start with HCMs, then we give a warning in public, and then the penalty applies. This is how we handle that.
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I always try to let others feel nice, but when someone doesn't wanna do the same thing, and it's not penaltiezed, I must retaliate
this is exactly the wrong way. Maybe u read the "Philosophy of anger" again in the CoC, there u can find hints how to handle with your anger.
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But if you don't like me because of my nationality, cause you think I am the heir of terrorist Slobodan Milosevic, and you think I shouldn't post, than, I dunno what to say...
I am not sure how u come to such an opinion. Did I ever mention something bad about you or serbs in general? Did I ever say serbs are evil while kosovars / albanians are angels? I don't think so...so u better stop feeling witch hunted here and try to argue in a normal way, then all will be fine.
As you could see, warnings have already been given (to 2 other members), so you can be sure the next CoC breaking post will recieve a penalty. But any provocation from other members too of course!
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posted January 31, 2008 09:25 PM |
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I never provoked you to do anything.
I just stated a fact that you do not see national hatred here.
And seriously, it's hard to discuss this on a normal level. You have seen for yourself in several other threads that I tend to remain as politically correct and cold-blooded as possible. But, as Vidoja said, some people are impossible to argue with since whenever they come in a corner they say "all you wrote is junk" and "you're a liar and murderer", and then a week later they post another thread in which they say the same they said before and make the circle go around again.
That's why I'm for the idea of merging all these threads (Kosovo, Kosovo independence, Serbian Deeds) in one single thread or something.
But that's just my opinion. Do what you think fit. I don't want to be accused of provoking the moderators again
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posted January 31, 2008 10:44 PM |
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I never provoked you to do anything.
I just stated a fact that you do not see national hatred here.
And seriously, it's hard to discuss this on a normal level. You have seen for yourself in several other threads that I tend to remain as politically correct and cold-blooded as possible. But, as Vidoja said, some people are impossible to argue with since whenever they come in a corner they say "all you wrote is junk" and "you're a liar and murderer", and then a week later they post another thread in which they say the same they said before and make the circle go around again.
That's why I'm for the idea of merging all these threads (Kosovo, Kosovo independence, Serbian Deeds) in one single thread or something.
But that's just my opinion. Do what you think fit. I don't want to be accused of provoking the moderators again
I am against this proposal.As all the mentioned above it will have than more reasons to start a new "Insult"war.
AKA:The only thing I ment with liar is that the ppl at the scene are lying maybe not you.And as for murderers,it was the Milosevic regime and the authorities of that time.I would propose to lock this threads.
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