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Shae_Trielle
Shae_Trielle


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posted November 12, 2001 02:28 PM
Edited By: Hexa on 26 Jan 2002

One spell only!

If you had the chance to cast Haste once and without expert air, what unit would you cast it on?

If you had the chance to cast Bless (once only and without expert) on a single stack, which stack would you cast it on?

If you had the chance to cast Stone Skin/Shield (no earth and only once!) on a stack, which stack would you cast it on?

*smile*

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Preserver
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posted November 12, 2001 03:48 PM

Depends on the situation, but maybe...

Haste on unicorns, bless on elves and stoneskin/shield on pegasi. Or maybe everything on pegasi... ..if I have anyone left.. Hey wait! Now i know it. Everything on the dragons...
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grythandril
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posted November 12, 2001 03:48 PM

one spell

To answer your question me quine, here is what I choose:

Use HASTE on the enchanters for 2 reasons;

1.  The ability to cast random spells on a mass scale
   every six turns.
2.  The fire are well.

Use BLESS on the Naga Queens because they would do maximum damage with no retal.

Use STONE SKIN on the Arch Angels.  This would increase the defense of the Angels more so.

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Shae_Trielle
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posted November 12, 2001 03:52 PM

Yes of course Grythandril. And don't forget either that Nagas deal maximum damage anyway, so there goes your one spell...

LMAO!

*smile*

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haile73
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posted November 12, 2001 04:53 PM

LOL.. I guess Grythandril wanted to be ironic, didn't he?

Anyway, those questions cannot be answered in general I think.

I would bless Harpy Hags, Cerberi, Pikemen or any other unit with a wide damage range.

I would haste Hydras, Mighty Gorgons or any other important unit which has been slowed down.

Shield... hmm, I rarely cast this one without expert earth. Maybe if I enter a dwarfen treasury, imp cache etc. with only one level 7 unit (I prefer cure here tho)

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Gimmickless
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posted November 12, 2001 09:53 PM
Edited By: Gimmickless on 12 Nov 2001

Hrm....

Going by town here and assuming I'm fighting AI or my friends on hotseat...

STRONGHOLD
Haste goes to my Ogres or T-Birds, depending on whether the battle will be a slugfest or a siege, respectively.  Bless goes to my A. Behemoths, since I need all the 80% defense hit I can use.  Shield for my Wolf Raiders because they just need more defense to offset their 10 HP apiece.

TOWER
Haste for M. Gremlins because I really need that in-range shot, Bless for the Golems, and Shield for the Magi, b/c they seem to be my most targeted unit.

DUNGEON (EDIT!)
Agreed that Bless and Harpies are always evil, but I'd rather go for Haste here.  Bless goes to the M.Kings or Scorps, again depending on the slugfest or siege. Shield for my Scorpicores...because I can.

FORTRESS
Don't play them much, so these are probably poor strategies. However, I'd Bless them Gnoll Marauders, Haste the Mighty Moos or Hydras and shield the Dragonflies.

CASTLE
*Fshyea* Like these guys really need much stat boosting anyway...Either way, Haste them Champions, Bless the Crusaders and Shield the Royal Griffins.

NECROPOLIS
Haste the Skeletons, Bless the Skeletons, Shield the Skeletons. >:2D

RAMPART
Haste the Dendroids, Bless the Elves, Shield the Dwarves.

INFERNO (Never play these guys either.)
Haste the Imps, Bless the Cerebus, Shield the Devils.
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haile73
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posted November 13, 2001 12:34 AM

ahem.. seems like you don't play Dungeon and Necro often either

Wyverns are in Fortress and Necro units can't be blessed

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Oldtimer
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posted November 13, 2001 12:44 AM
Edited By: Oldtimer on 12 Nov 2001

Oops, didn't read the post again. Sorry Shae:

Haste Ogres, to get them into action.

Bless Minotaurs, 20 is alot better than 12.

Stoneskin Pegesus, they need alot of help staying alive behind enemy lines.
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posted November 13, 2001 01:06 AM

Tower (which I play most)

haste: Nagas

bless: probably MGremlins, if there are lots of them, otherwise Ill go for Giants/Titans

shield: Nagas b/c they are the most targeted unit
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rogue
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posted November 13, 2001 03:33 AM

Bless on Storm Elementals, because their damage range of 2-8 is pretty nice.

Shield on Wolf Raiders so more of them will survive to make a second attack. (assuming you are attacking something that hasn't retaliated yet)

Haste on Dendroids (the upgraded ones) so they can run up and bind something important.
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Shae_Trielle
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posted November 13, 2001 05:01 AM

Trust Oldtimer to not understand the idea of the thread lol!

And Haile, you make me laugh, lol! I was thinking exactly the same thing after reading Gimmick's post!

Hasted Harpies with sufficient numbers and placed in the middle order of your tactical lineup can do a fair bit to take a freebie at the enemy level 7's.

I'd bless marksmen. Double shots at maximum damage is heaven. Especially if they get lucky!

Shield! Good question Shae, I think I'd have to shield a much needed unit where I had no other option but to attack and take a retaliation hit from a powerful enemy stack. This usually goes towards my level 6's like wyverns or champs.

Gimmickless, hasting your ogres sounds like the biggest waste of time. Wouldn't it be far better to haste the ancients instead? First strike is a lot better than bless with these old hairy things you know.

Blessing the cyclopes isn't bad either...

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wiggy_wam
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posted November 13, 2001 07:32 AM
Edited By: wiggy_wam on 13 Nov 2001

haste works best on units that are:
- slow or average speed
- units that offer no retaliation
- units that have a great proportion of dam/HP (that aren't already fast)

bless of course works best on creatures that have a wide range of damage ... my primary choices are:
1- storm elementals (2-8)
2- harpy hags (1-4)
3- cerebi (2-7)
4- ice elementals (3-7)
5- nomads (2-6)
6- pikemen, troglodytes (1-3)
7- orcs, lizard warriors, dragon flies (2-5)
8- pegasi (4-9)
9- griffins (3-6)
10- ogres (6-12) <-- if i know they'll HIT something
11- psychic elementals (10-20)
12- earth elementals (4-8)
13- cavaliers (not champions) (15-25)
and so forth...

shield only works in hand to hand combat ... the units i shield are usually:
- black knights (they get a lot of action)
- whoever else I send in the front lines

I cast stone skin on whoever I know will likely get shot ... mostly either a shooting unit, flying unit, or a unit with no retaliation ... or skeletons.

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Gimmickless
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posted November 13, 2001 08:35 AM

So I screw up every now and again... I'm Gimmickless, not Faultless.

Sure, blesing the cyclops would be nice, but I normally never get the chance to get cyclops unti mid-2nd month, which kinda makes them useless on almost any medium map.  If I've got a dwelling, though...  

And first strike w/Behemoths is good and all, but I seem to get less casualties of the upper levels when them Ogre Mages get into the thick of things as quick as Behemoths do.  I can afford to lose 15 Ogres more than I can 4 Ancient Behemoths.

Get my drift?
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Grythandril
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posted November 15, 2001 02:38 AM

apologies

My apologies shae i had forgotten about the Naga Queens maximum damage, it just a natural reaction cause they are one of my favs.

So I will alter it slighty.

Use HASTE on the enchanters for 2 reasons;

1. The ability to cast random spells on a mass scale
  every six turns.
2. They fire are well.

Use BLESS on the Mighty Gorgon ( my personal fav) because they would do maximum damage with the possibly of gaining more deaths with the mighty stare.

Use STONE SKIN on the Arch Angels. This would increase the defense of the Angels more so.

All the best to you me lass and Happy gaming

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Ichon
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posted November 15, 2001 08:17 AM

well

Bless is best used on lower level creatures you have lots of. It's simple damage ratio to figure if you bless 100 level 1's to get max damage that will probably give you more overall damage than blessing any 7th or 6th levels. Some 5 levels are questionable, you can have enough of them to make them worth it sometimes, but always do the math.

Shae- same reason not to haste the Harpy Hags for 1 early strike, wait them, then caste haste- then bless the next round, or reverse that order if you think they will get hit, but you probably take away more enemy HP's waiting to hit when they are blessed then you have taken from you by an early hit against enemy 7th level. Always do the math...

Same for Stoneskin, you can calculate the damage so you know if stoneskin will save enough units of which stack to make it most beneficial in that stack then striking for the most damage etc... can't emphasize enough to do the math.

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Fighter
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posted August 02, 2006 07:18 PM

Bless on Storm elemental (2-8 )
shield on skeletons
haste on skeletons

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Aravis17
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posted August 05, 2006 02:20 AM

haste on dendroids - they are SLOW!!!

bless on elves - need more protection

stone skin on angels - better defense, makes them almost invincible
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bloucester
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posted September 21, 2006 05:41 PM

i believe that you should cast spells on your best units so that they are unstoppable.  

haste - chaos hydras - with teleport as well
bless - titans - 40-60 or 60-60 how do you think? and if my hero is adela, things get messy.
shield - dread knights / archangels - they just don't die and everyone feels reluctant to hit them

if we were speaking about heroes 4, snake strike, first strike is all you need

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russ
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posted September 21, 2006 07:47 PM
Edited by russ at 19:49, 21 Sep 2006.

Haste = on gremlins to make them faster than pretty much any other shooter and most mid-level walkers. (demons/skeletons would benefit more, but I like gremlins more )

Bless = on titans! (hydras would benefit more, but I like titans more )

Stone skin = on a durable low-level stack to get the maximum effect (skeletons or demons), but to be consistent with the other two I'll go with my stack of 300 gremlins.

Shield = since it is a plain 15% bonus, I'll cast it on the strongest unit (AAs), or titans (I may as well stick to Tower )

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posted September 21, 2006 08:22 PM

Haste = Chaos Hydras (the biggest weakness of them is their lack of speed)
Bless = Chaos Hydras (75% damage increase for a level7 unit!)
Stoneskin/Shield = Chaos Hydras (Ever tried to smash a stone with a wooden stick?..)
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