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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Pros/cons of your favourite town
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


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Unicorn
posted January 28, 2008 06:34 PM

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. Pretty much like I don't have to gun you down to make you understand that bullets actually can kill people.



That tickled my funny bone

Good thing you don't have to.  HC is not a place!

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted January 28, 2008 07:11 PM

I'm beginning to enjoy the conversation
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DarkShadow
DarkShadow


Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted January 28, 2008 07:18 PM

well uhm,we still have gremlin muskets dont we?

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ismail222
ismail222


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The Cataclysm
posted January 28, 2008 08:24 PM
Edited by ismail222 at 20:35, 28 Jan 2008.

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I'm beginning to enjoy the conversation


not more than me

anyways on topic

my favourite faction is dungeon

pros
Very strong damging spells
Best creeping ever ^.^
Great at rushing
bloodfuries and stalkers are incredible for early to midgame.Furies for slow walkers and stalkers for everything
Hydra's incredible tanking skill and shadow mistresses casting spells w/o being exposed ^_^

cons
Very weak growth rate for tire 1,2,3 units and making them all  almost completely useless late game.
P.S : tire 3 is useless during any period of the game
Too much magic dependent if the hero doesn't get to cast it's spells u're screwed
Almost useless at long games vs swift factions,Ex : sylvan
Too much depenedent on crystal(but the creeping skill makes that a lil bit acceptable)
Heroes just get sp and attack and lil knowledge and no deff at all making them not able to survive even more
Irresistable magic affects ur own units making blackies + armageddon impossible (which was the whole reason i even train blackies,now i usually skip em,better save the money)
Lack of might makes it very hard to fight against academy
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Undead_Warrior
Undead_Warrior


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I hear voices in my head.
posted January 29, 2008 12:11 PM

I play Necropolis from the day I discovcered Heroes 4 and 5 and from my experienct the time is working for me and against my enemy. Because:
You cannot cleanse the curse of Netherworld
You can cleanse Frenzy but usualy is too late,
And you are right, Necros suffer the first atack but I am curious if Sylvan will mop the floor with Necropolis units After they felt the Howl of Terror
And in the latest game Necropolis Army will bee BIG belive me. And those Skeletons and Liches will take care of most of the enemy shooters And with a little help of Franzy the meele units will be in deep sh*t.
The only problem, fighting Sylvan is defeating the Treants(man I hate These creatures)
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted January 29, 2008 12:48 PM

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I play Necropolis from the day I discovcered Heroes 4 and 5 and from my experienct the time is working for me and against my enemy.


Not really, heroes 4 was so much different that the experience from H4 barely counts.

Quote:
You cannot cleanse the curse of Netherworld


That's why it's good to use it asap. if you wait, it will not be enough to stop might forces.

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You can cleanse Frenzy but usualy is too late,


No, you can't cleanse frenzy. Did you actually use this spell in the game, or are you just theorycrafting?

Quote:
And you are right, Necros suffer the first atack but I am curious if Sylvan will mop the floor with Necropolis units After they felt the Howl of Terror


Ultimates have little impact on multiplayer game.

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And in the latest game Necropolis Army will bee BIG belive me.


It won't be that big, just a bit bigger than your opponent's one, but a lot, lot weaker if the game takes too long so it doesn't matter anyway.

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And those Skeletons and Liches will take care of most of the enemy shooters


THe shooters aren't much of a problem in this game anyway, excluding arcane archers.

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And with a little help of Franzy the meele units will be in deep sh*t.


If you cast frenzy on them when they are next to your units, they will most likely attack your units anyway, with bonus damage.

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The only problem, fighting Sylvan is defeating the Treants(man I hate These creatures)


Treants are the least dangerous units in Sylvan's army, believe me. You have 6 other stacks to worry about first.

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samiekl
samiekl


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posted January 29, 2008 01:02 PM

Can someone explain to me why are those arcane archers so feared? Dragons, dryads and dancers kill most, not arcane archers.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted January 29, 2008 01:19 PM

Maybe because most get Ossir
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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted January 29, 2008 01:31 PM

Even so... when i used to have a hard time vs sylvan, those were the creatures that posed a great threat, not archers. They were there just to finish the job, if there was something left to finish off.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted January 29, 2008 01:35 PM

I know, their first attack is devastating.
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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted January 29, 2008 01:37 PM
Edited by samiekl at 13:57, 29 Jan 2008.

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And in the latest game Necropolis Army will bee BIG belive me. And those Skeletons and Liches will take care of most of the enemy shooters And with a little help of Franzy the meele units will be in deep sh*t.
The only problem, fighting Sylvan is defeating the Treants(man I hate These creatures)


I have to admit, this guy is really funny. Skeletons and liches taking care of enemy shooters :... You wont get the chance to shoot with them, they'll be dead before you can say, well, "raise dead"
But, if he has problem defeating treants....


P.S. I have version TotE 3.0. What game do you guys play? Treants posing a threat, Necro endgame powerful, Dungeon overpowered, Orcs underpowered, etc etc...

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Doomforge
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posted January 29, 2008 01:58 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 13:58, 29 Jan 2008.

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Can someone explain to me why are those arcane archers so feared? Dragons, dryads and dancers kill most, not arcane archers.


exactly, but compared to other shooters in the game (for me shooters suck in this part), arcane archers are extremely dangerous.
Of course that they don't compare with sylvan's triple D attack (dryad-dragon-dancer ).

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forest001
forest001


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posted January 29, 2008 02:25 PM

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Can someone explain to me why are those arcane archers so feared? Dragons, dryads and dancers kill most, not arcane archers.


arcanes can score really good hit, but it's true that by no means they aren't most scary sylvan unit, and they hp . but still they are far better than the other shooters.

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Undead_Warrior
Undead_Warrior


Known Hero
I hear voices in my head.
posted January 29, 2008 02:34 PM

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Quote:
I play Necropolis from the day I discovcered Heroes 4 and 5 and from my experienct the time is working for me and against my enemy.


Not really, heroes 4 was so much different that the experience from H4 barely counts.

Agree with you on this one

Quote:
You cannot cleanse the curse of Netherworld


That's why it's good to use it asap. if you wait, it will not be enough to stop might forces.

Ofcourse it wouldn't be enough, but it will do a good damage.

Quote:
You can cleanse Frenzy but usualy is too late,


No, you can't cleanse frenzy. Did you actually use this spell in the game, or are you just theorycrafting?

Yes I did used it. But Ididn't knew that it cannot be clensed.

Quote:
And you are right, Necros suffer the first atack but I am curious if Sylvan will mop the floor with Necropolis units After they felt the Howl of Terror


Ultimates have little impact on multiplayer game.

why do you belive that? Have you ever used it? Or is just "theorycrafting"?

Quote:
And in the latest game Necropolis Army will bee BIG belive me.


It won't be that big, just a bit bigger than your opponent's one, but a lot, lot weaker if the game takes too long so it doesn't matter anyway.

Necropolis arent a lot lot weaker than other factions. Their only weakness is lvl 7 too weak and lvl. 2 useless. I agree that they are a town with medium low forces. But this isn't a huge disadvantage, only a small one and is compensated by the fact that they are more numerous.

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And those Skeletons and Liches will take care of most of the enemy shooters


THe shooters aren't much of a problem in this game anyway, excluding arcane archers.

These archers ARE a problem

Quote:
And with a little help of Franzy the meele units will be in deep sh*t.


If you cast frenzy on them when they are next to your units, they will most likely attack your units anyway, with bonus damage.

I was thinking of casting frenzy on enemy meele stacks.

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The only problem, fighting Sylvan is defeating the Treants(man I hate These creatures)


Treants are the least dangerous units in Sylvan's army, believe me. You have 6 other stacks to worry about first.


Treants are very slow but they have very high hp and very good defensive and you wil loose lots of time killing them. They do not do lots of damage but they are hard to kill.

And you said that it isn't necessary to gun me down to prove that bullers kill people. Ofcourse, but I didn't doubted that guns kill people, I doubt that you can handle a gun.
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Undead_Warrior
Undead_Warrior


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I hear voices in my head.
posted January 29, 2008 02:36 PM

Quote:
Quote:
And in the latest game Necropolis Army will bee BIG belive me. And those Skeletons and Liches will take care of most of the enemy shooters And with a little help of Franzy the meele units will be in deep sh*t.
The only problem, fighting Sylvan is defeating the Treants(man I hate These creatures)


I have to admit, this guy is really funny. Skeletons and liches taking care of enemy shooters :... You wont get the chance to shoot with them, they'll be dead before you can say, well, "raise dead"
But, if he has problem defeating treants....


P.S. I have version TotE 3.0. What game do you guys play? Treants posing a threat, Necro endgame powerful, Dungeon overpowered, Orcs underpowered, etc etc...


Man, did you played against a realy Necropolis player or against AI on Easy dificulty?
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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted January 29, 2008 02:44 PM
Edited by samiekl at 14:54, 29 Jan 2008.

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Man, did you played against a realy Necropolis player or against AI on Easy dificulty?


I play vs AI on easy

You???

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted January 29, 2008 02:56 PM

Alright boys let's play nice.

I'm loading my to keep the peace.

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I generally like the idea of inferno but I hate that it's so tedious to actually play with them.  Maybe if the game ran a little smoother. Not bad just not perfect.

I also like the orcs.  The main pro of the orcs I can see are some interesting skill choices and a really sick time once they get the ultimate pendant.

So basically I like offensive might. hmph.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted January 29, 2008 03:02 PM

I'm really not sure at the moment but I lean on magic a little more. For now it's dungeon, orcs and sylvan.

Except for the orcs the other factions share a swiftness and are attack oriented.
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Undead_Warrior
Undead_Warrior


Known Hero
I hear voices in my head.
posted January 29, 2008 03:09 PM

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Man, did you played against a realy Necropolis player or against AI on Easy dificulty?


I play vs AI on easy

You???


I play on hard and normal. Onh heroic he kiks my a** And sometimes even on Hard....
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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted January 29, 2008 03:10 PM

Oh my god! you can beat the AI on hard??? Man, you're really good. How do you do it? Care to share some strategies?

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