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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: I hate untamed
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carcity
carcity


Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
posted January 27, 2008 10:02 AM

I hate untamed

once i played with the barbarians and thougt: now I will kill them with my untamed cyclopses

but i faced some grim raiders. they got to my cyclopses on their first round. the attacked my cyclopses and when my cyclopses hit them back he killed ALL my chiftains And my earth daughters!!! I got so mad on those untamed and never used them again
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Castle/Haven player
posted January 27, 2008 10:14 AM
Edited by radar at 13:26, 27 Jan 2008.

So you're not decent Stronghold player then.

@Mytical: If he put 2 of his stacks near the cyclops that's self explonatory...
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Mytical
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posted January 27, 2008 10:19 AM
Edited by Mytical at 11:36, 27 Jan 2008.

Not neccessarily Radar.  Untamed are a risk.  However, next time a bit of forplaning will help.  Put them off into a corner and make sure nothing else is around them.  Leave out wyverns if needed.

However, if you get them to the enemy Untamed are killers.  They can decimate the enemy.  With a few word of cheifs, some haste, and perhaps divine guidence, they can get many many actions for little damage and do vast ammount of damage to the enemy.  With some bloodrage, possibly powerful blow they are down right SCARY.
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posted January 27, 2008 11:26 AM

If you know how to use them, they can be good. Do as Mytical said: place them in the corner

But Im with you , I dont take them either. To risky, I play safe  
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posted January 27, 2008 12:07 PM

Not only must you make sure that they don't have anyone near them, a very good option is to get tactics. That allows you even better positioning, reducing the risk greatly. And also, you should of known, that because of their 4 tile attack, you must always be wary when fighting raiders. Be them lizard raiders or champions, even bear raiders, you must always try to keep them from getting to your cyclops on the first round. If you do that, then you'll probably kill them easily afterwards.

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Moonlith
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If all else fails, use Fiyah!
posted January 27, 2008 01:23 PM

Untamed cyclops always attack the 2x2 region, including their target, in which they can strike most creatures, be they friend or foe. If you placed Earth Daughters and Chieftains at the front lines right next to the untames, you're asking for trouble

I kinda like how it mixes, actually. Chaintain + Untamed, and Executioner + bloodeyed.

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Blind Sage
posted January 27, 2008 01:39 PM

yeah but still the dark raiders reach you in the first round and they got so good initiative so you can't do anything to stop them. but i will think of that in the future. but still i want my earth daughters close to the cyclopses cause both need the goblins.
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frostwolf
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posted January 27, 2008 03:14 PM

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yeah but still the dark raiders reach you in the first round and they got so good initiative so you can't do anything to stop them. but i will think of that in the future. but still i want my earth daughters close to the cyclopses cause both need the goblins.


Then get tactics and place the shamans and goblins behind the cyclops.

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Blind Sage
posted January 27, 2008 03:50 PM

good point
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DarkShadow
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Cerise Princess
posted January 27, 2008 03:52 PM

or split the goblins,put half near the earth daugthers,the other half like this:
x=untamed,g=goblins
[x][]
[][g]

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Castle/Haven player
posted January 27, 2008 04:30 PM

If you don't have tactics both shamans and goblins should stay out of range.

Using goblins by cyclops is waste of turn IMO.
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sith_of_ziost
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Scouting the Multiverse
posted January 27, 2008 10:20 PM

All this boils down to one thing: They're Untamed Cyclopses. They attack anything in their way.

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Undead_Warrior
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posted January 28, 2008 02:21 PM

But is weird to get tactics only to be able to use the Untamed cyclops....
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Elvin
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posted January 28, 2008 02:32 PM

I think it's weird not to get tactics untamed or not
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


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Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted January 28, 2008 09:02 PM

Well I love the untamed.  An excellent fellow for taking down a dragon utopia singlehandedly.

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Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted January 28, 2008 09:08 PM

Untameds=making phoenix obsolette since TOTE.

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Elvin
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posted January 28, 2008 09:50 PM

I wonder whatever gave you that idea.
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Blind Sage
posted January 30, 2008 07:46 AM

Quote:
I think it's weird not to get tactics untamed or not


well I never choose tactics. i allways go for battle frenzy and flamming arrows. I don't think tactics that good anyway
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Mytical
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Chaos seeking Harmony
posted January 30, 2008 08:04 AM

Unless I go Kraugh, I don't get Frenzy any more.  Getting my cyclops as close to the enemy as I can in case of frenzy is just too important.  Also always get shatter dark now if it comes up, regardless.  That way, don't have to worry about it.  Detain dark also at least.  May waste a skill slot in some cases, but better safe then sorry and the other spell schools can be gotten around.
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Zeromus
Zeromus


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and happy about it
posted January 30, 2008 08:16 AM

I have never taken Untamed Cyclopses in my games with Stronghold, Blood-eyes are just too great. -3 luck to enemies, and hits 2 enemies in front of you? Awesome!

The only occasion in which I used Untameds has been while playing duels, and yet I have seen no occasion which Blood-eyes couldnīt handle.

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