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Thread: Tavern Mini Games for H6 !
Orfinn
Orfinn


Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
posted February 14, 2008 10:47 PM
Edited by Orfinn at 17:50, 16 Feb 2008.

Tavern Mini Games for H6 !

Have thought of this idea for some time now. And I thought: Wouldnt it be cool to add som kind of mini game to the Taverns in the different towns of H6? They seems pretty much life-less, like the rest of the buildings. Sure the Tavern keeper have some interesting and funny comments, but thats not so spectacular always. So why not at least add something for the tavern? Like Chess, Dart, drinking contests or something This should be for all kind of towns, some have different games than others And prizes? Well that could differ from game to game.
Also the Tavern Mini Game Screen and the options of games could be shown by clicking on a mark/tap out from the standard tavern/rumor/screen, below the Thieves Guild mark/tap.


Types of mini games

Before I start. Any hero can play as many times as they want and allies can also enjoy a visit in your town (s) and play the Tavern games avaiable (which they may not have in their town(s)), but only for a certain amount of time or they will block your enterance to your own town (s)
Each town can ONLY have 3 different games at disposal that you can choose from.

Chess

Rules

The classic from ages ago. Now this could be heroes mini, since the heroes games are sometimes described as extreme versions of chess, well at least the battlefield.
The rules are Timed which means how long each of the two players (you and the AI) can make your turn. Or you could use as long time as you like.

Prices for winning

Dart

Rules

Who dont love to hit the bulls eye? Or to just throw darts at the  target blindly, to hope for a high point summary.
There could be rules on how many round there could be, like 1-3. How many darts you have at your disposal (up to 4 for example). And which kind of dart target you want to play on. I know theres two types of it shown on the pic below.

Im not wise on what the rule where for the large target. But the small one are a game for scoring up to 50. I think its different looks really, but the numbers placed differently, and there some higher numbers on the large type of target.



Prices for winning

Drinking Contest

Thirsty for some solid bewerage like an joyful ale loving dwarf?
Drink till you drop! *hick*

Rules

Everyone knows how to drink? Well there could be simple animations of two beer glasses that empties at a rate, depending on how fast you manage do press the directional up and down keys. The one that empties it first wins.

Poker

Yeah the famous and world spread card game know as Poker.

Rules

Yay! I rarely play poker, but heres a link to rules.

Poker Rules

Black Jack

I seriously love this game. First player to be as close to 21 as possible, quite the chance game, eh? Fun and simple as hell anyway

Rules

Black Jack Rules

Tarot

Now this card game is a rathe spiritual game by many means, astrological. But sure its interesting to see if the cards shown later have really caught you off guard and saw what to come for you.
Anyone got the Heroes Complete Edition know the really cool card deck you got with the other stuff. The cards could be really well suited in H6 as a memory of H5

Rules

The rules are many and its quite a complex game, not sure this could fit in a small Tavern game, but who knows what the Nival guys can do, bet theres some there who play Tarot regurarely.

Some Tarot Rules and Help

Eating Contest

Hungry and want some salty pork, cheese and bread to consume? Well lets get all dwarfy (they have such a huge appetite *cough* Gimli*cough*)

Rules

Same as the Drinking contest but with animations of the heap of food getting down to nothing more than bare bones, scraps and smittereens

Guess The Addition

I love this one to. Different objects added after each round under a piece of cloth or box at a tavern table popping up on the tavern screen.

Rules

You may start the game by looking at..lets say 3 object, then you have 30 seconds minute to memorise. When the times goes out a new round comes up, which means all the past objects come up again, but with another new object you have to guess out and memorise and if you find it in time, memorise it quickly, then it continiues to another round with yet another new object you have to memorise for the round thereafter and so it goes until you cant memorise anymore. You win if you like..memorise the 10 additional objects to the 3 at star...which means 10 rounds to name an example.

Fortune Wheel

Rules

Hmm...spin the wheel?

Well heres an idea [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_Fortune_%28The_wheel%27s_configuration%29[/url]

Two Pairs

Funny to guess where that 3 clubs beloved 3 hearts are...oh yeah! In that upper corner I guess * 3flips over, shows a queen heart* Bummer there mate

Rules

The pairs could be chosen either by type or value.
You could have a time limit on, so you have to hurry up a bit finding all the pairs. 24 cards could be shown..with their backside upwards of course.

Tavern Mini Game Settings

The settings for each kind of avaiable game for that spesific town you are in, could be chosen in a sub meny, accessed by a mark/tap above the mark/tap where you see the Tavern Mini Game screen, but under the Thieves Guild mark/tap and where the game starts. Clicking Okay when finished choosing settings will prepare that T. Mini Game. Clicking Cancel will take you back to the Standard Tavern/Rumor screen.

Where you choose... (Chosen means that right after you have won you can pick your prize)

--Rules
--- For which game?
---- Black Jack
---- Two Pairs
---- Poker
---- Tarot
---- Drinking Contest
---- Eating Contest
---- Wheel Of Fortune
---- Guess The Addition
---- Chess
---- Dart

-AI options
(note that the Tavern Mini Game AI should be separate from the other AI, controlling everethyng else except from TMG (Tavern Mini Games)
--Like Difficulties

-Participate cost
-- On or Off?
---If turned on, you have to pay a certain amount of gold to participate in the game. The good thing is, the prizez get higher, multiplying out from what you have paid.
---- Cost (min. 10 max. 1000) Serious prizes for those paying 1000 and win a hard game


-Prizes
(chosen means that you handle what the prizes may be, random means the computer picks randomly factors on what you get. You dont like f.ex know which extra skill you get or which one of the existing gets piffed up a notch, and how much resources and of which type you get)
-Loss. Exactly the same settings as for prizes only it subtracts. But this is optional!
-- Loss On/Off

--Prizes for which game?
--- Black Jack
--- Two Pairs
--- Poker
--- Tarot
--- Drinking Contest
--- Eating Contest
--- Wheel Of Fortune
--- Guess The Addition
--- Chess
--- Dart


-- Overall Random Prizes

--Bonus Resources

---Random/Chosen (if chosen, up to 3 different res. including rare and common)
----Amount
----- min.1-15.max for wood and ore
----- min.1-10.max for mercury, crystal, gems and sulfur

--Stat Bonuses

---Random/Chosen
---- (If Chosen)Primary stats points, Secondary skills or Abilities?
----- Amount of primary points for each: attack, defense, knowledge and spellpower (up to total 8)
----- Increase secondary skill OR add a new sec. skill if avaiable room for it?
------Train existing secondary skill (up one level, like if you have basic dark magic, you can increase it to advanced dark magic)
------Add secondary skill (you can choose any you want but only 1 of possible 5 skill slots)

--Creature Bonuses

---Random/Chosen
---- (If chosen)
----- Creature growth (you choose which tier and up to +7 in growth for tier one, +6 for tier 2... tier 7 have to get +1 and why wouldnt you?...Well something like this:

Base tier growth (excluding external dwelling, horde dwelling and fortification bonus growth)                   1234567
Prize tier bonus growth (max tier bonus shown)+7654321

----- All present creatures will be upgraded for free and changing from one upg into another, like if you have goblin trappers and change them to goblin witch doctors costs nothing but if this is a One Time, changing back to trappers will cost you.
----- Bonus Neutral Creature(s)
------ Choose which neutral (s), like Wolves
------- Amount: Well heres a small catch.. If following the idea above, a max of 4 extra wolves may not be much, and if doubled that may be overpowered for higher tiers but underpowered for lower tiers..I halt this prize ide for now.


Main Menu Mini Game Options

For the main options menu there should be an on/off option for the mini games. To prevent players wasting time in multiplayer, playing tavern games instead of battle with sword and teeth, those cowards
Also an on/off option to if you want minigames at all in you game session.
Score List over Mini Game results would be sweet to!
Where there are tabs for each kind of game.

Which Tavern games suit for which town?

Well using the existing H5 towns as foundation.

Haven: Two Pairs, Tarot, Eating Contest (now thats why the peasants get so fat!

Academy: Black Jack, Tarot, Chess (those wizards think so loud playing chess, theres no wonder they get wrinkles and bad attitude!)

Sylvan: Dart, Wheel Of Fortune, Tarot (yeah...these guys need all the spritual help they can get)

Fortress: Eating Contest, Chess, Drinking Contest (yeah! Loooads of ale!)

Necropolis: Black Jack, Tarot, Guess The Addition (another bone? also no drinking contest and such, since alchohol are not allowed and food not needed)

Dungeon: Black Jack, Chess, Dart (to train their assassin skills)

Stronghold: Drinking Contest, Dart, Eating Contest (heh poor goblins

Inferno: Poker, Drinking Contest, Wheel Of Fortune (one week in hell for visitors..if you loose)


10 Mini Games of Fun List


---- Black Jack
---- Two Pairs
---- Poker
---- Tarot
---- Drinking Contest
---- Eating Contest
---- Wheel Of Fortune
---- Guess The Addition
---- Chess
---- Dart

Could Nival put up to something similar to this and whats you picki'n of game ?

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted February 15, 2008 05:29 AM

Nah, we're already playing a game, they'll just detract.
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Daystar
Daystar


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted February 15, 2008 05:41 AM

I like the concept of Chess, but dislike the rest.  It should be...sophisticated, you know?

Although different games for different towns, perhaps?

Necro:
Chess, ?Liars Dice?

Sylvan:
Darts/Arrow Shot, ?Some sortof game involving magic?
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friendofgunnar
friendofgunnar


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Legendary Hero
able to speed up time
posted February 15, 2008 07:25 AM

For the Orcs you could have "throw the axe at the goblin" game.

For the Dwarves you could have "try to stay standing after 18 flagons of beer"

For the Drow, strip poker.

For the Elves, you could have Lute Hero 3

For the Undead there'd be body-part hockey.

For the Magi, "whack-a-gremlin"

For Inferno you could play "Hot Potato", only it'd be "Toss the horned demon"

For the Humans, you could attempt some "jackass" stunts.

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bixie
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Promising
Legendary Hero
my common sense is tingling!
posted February 15, 2008 08:54 AM

it will certainly bring an element of comedy into heroes.
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Daystar
Daystar


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Back from the Dead
posted February 15, 2008 01:16 PM

Quote:
strip poker.

No, we need games that take longer than that.
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Arantir
Arantir

Tavern Dweller
The Good Necromancer
posted February 15, 2008 08:14 PM

Quote:
Nah, we're already playing a game, they'll just detract.

I agree.
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Orfinn
Orfinn


Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
posted February 16, 2008 05:45 PM
Edited by Orfinn at 17:46, 16 Feb 2008.

Quote:
it will certainly bring an element of comedy into heroes.


Indeed it would, hehe!

Detract? Maybe, but sure it would give you a break from the heat of battle and the main game.
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baklava
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Mostly harmless
posted February 16, 2008 06:23 PM

This wouldn't be a bad idea if it was quick, and playable during enemy turns. You know, to kill the time while the AI goes around the map cheating and not collecting chests
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Guarder
Guarder


Supreme Hero
posted February 16, 2008 06:42 PM

I'd like poker, if it wouldn't be so easy as in PotC3 pc game. seriosly, that was too easliy to win(i always betted until the computer fold, becouse it thought i had very good cards since i always betted
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2ndHero
2ndHero


Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
posted February 16, 2008 07:04 PM

Quote:
This wouldn't be a bad idea if it was quick, and playable during enemy turns. You know, to kill the time while the AI goes around the map cheating and not collecting chests


I agree, it could be best to be played during enemys turns.
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Orfinn
Orfinn


Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
posted February 18, 2008 10:45 PM

Hmm, well. But then the progress of the mini game should be saved for the next enemy turn or it would just interrupt and make it very hard to win something, since some players do quick rounds, either in the early beginning, when theres not much to do. Or if the enemy has a lack of resources to buil, well nothing to do at all.

A pop up screen for the tavern game during the waiting periods should be a possibility then, cause you cant do anything while the enemies take their turn, well except ghost mode which I havent played at all Could use that as a model maybe?
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Andrelvis
Andrelvis


Adventuring Hero
posted February 18, 2008 11:16 PM
Edited by Andrelvis at 23:32, 18 Feb 2008.

Playing mini-games on enemy turns is a very interesting option, if they are saved because, as Orfinn pointed out, enemy turns might be short. Classical games like Chess or card games would be pretty fun

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Orfinn
Orfinn


Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
posted February 21, 2008 03:24 PM

Indeed it would
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Fal
Fal


Hired Hero
posted March 12, 2008 07:49 PM

Good idea, but forget the chess stuff...bring the mini card game that appeared in Might and Magic VIII (day of destroyer), you know the one with two towers and you get various attack/defense/resources cards? That'd be fun, I loved that mini game


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Warmonger
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Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
posted March 12, 2008 07:56 PM

No, just no... When I play Heroes, I want to play heroes, not chess neither Unreal Tournament. For the same reason as the computer does not resemble a girlfriend no matter how hard you try

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GenieLord
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Legendary Hero
posted March 13, 2008 06:44 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 18:46, 13 Mar 2008.

That sounds like a really nice idea. The fans would be so exicted of that, and would forget they are playing heroes, but that wouldn't be a big problem. I would like to suggest the games available in every town:

Haven:
Chess
Black Jack
Poker

Sylvan:
Dart
Tarot
Two Pairs

Inferno:
Black Jack
Poker
Eating Contest

Academy:
Wheel Of Fortune
Tarot
Chess

Fortress:
Drinking Contest
Guess The Addition
Poker

Stronghold:
{bodies} Eating Contest
Two Pairs
Poker

Dungeon:
Dart
Chess
Two Pairs

Necropolis:
Wheel of Fortune
Black Jack
Guess the Adition

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Golemcrafter
Golemcrafter


Promising
Famous Hero
Unlimited Fantasy Master
posted March 23, 2008 06:29 PM

Or maybe Creature Wrestling and beting. That would be fun to see! Even a hero could challenge a creature for always higher prizes. Like in HOMM 4: TGS!

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Orfinn
Orfinn


Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
posted March 24, 2008 01:26 AM

That would be fun too
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