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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Best fourth level spell.
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Hexa
Hexa


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posted November 20, 2001 10:07 AM

Gimmickless And what if one side is playing Necro...will the hero still be able no raise skeletons and continue?
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Tristan
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posted November 20, 2001 10:16 PM

Ok, I tried this out last night on a map I made just for testing things like this, and necro doesn't help, being in a town doesn't help, I didn't think though to try it in a Necro town...

The situation I was in may have been a coincidence, maybe the computer "cheated" it through, maybe something else.  I can't even remember if it was that turn or next turn that I checked the town out, so maybe they just had not recruited skels for a month or so.  I have to admit I have never used the armageddon spell in combat except in the AB campaign with the armageddons blade.

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rychenroller
rychenroller


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posted November 21, 2001 10:04 AM

I hear a bit about berserk, how its wonderful etc, the problem is, its so easy to foil. Get yourself a badge of courage, which is easy to find on most maps, and watch the berserk your opponent casts disappear into thin air. Chain lightning is my fave on a sorcery hero, with pendant of negativity. It totally destroys ressurection, and leaves your opponent feeling pretty bad.
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Shae_Trielle
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posted November 21, 2001 10:10 AM

The problem with chain lightning is that it's pretty hard to use once your opponent has two or three stacks. And if they keep resurrecting those two or three stacks, then your chain lightning looks pretty sad too.

*smile*

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rychenroller
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posted November 21, 2001 10:27 AM

Shae did you notice I said "pendant of negativity"? the chain just vecomes like a bolt on your enemy, and it dont touch your troops
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hexa
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posted November 21, 2001 10:42 AM

That's a great combo indeed.. its just that it doesn't happen that much that u can acctualy use it.

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Shae_Trielle
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posted November 21, 2001 10:48 AM

Yes I did notice that.

Sure I did.....

Hey I noticed it okay?

LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!

*smile*

PS: out of the hundreds of games you've played Rychee, how many times have you had both pendant and chain lightning at the same time?


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Gimmickless
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posted November 21, 2001 11:09 AM

It's too bad that the anti-lightning necklace artifact thingie doesn't come up near as often as it should.  You'd think that power spells like that get their counter-artifact more often than anti-berserks...
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rychenroller
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posted November 21, 2001 11:17 AM

I think (dont know for sure) that the badge thing is just a glitch, but it sure a hell works. as for the chain pendant thingy, sure its not that common, but when it comes up, I think its even more lethal than summon/shackles.

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Milena
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posted November 21, 2001 09:05 PM

Quote:
I think (dont know for sure) that the badge thing is just a glitch, but it sure a hell works. as for the chain pendant thingy, sure its not that common, but when it comes up, I think its even more lethal than summon/shackles.
I disagree here. You rarely have the chance to find the pendant and USE it well in a battle. I'd rather go for Meteor Shower. Neat and no one can escape it.

I don't know about you but I'd rather have the shackles. Thank you but a CL isn't that devastating. While with the shackles you gain 2 things:
1. All the enemy's artifacts
2. Once you defeat a hero, the enemies' most powerful heroes can't go on any more. Hahaha.

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Icon
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posted November 21, 2001 09:50 PM

Milena:

Given you have Pedant of Negavity.

CL + Expert Sorcery + decent spell power + Orb of Firmament = The most devastating offensive spell in the game.

Its better than Implosion, cause Implosion can be negated by Ressurecion. CL affects five stacks. You need 5lvl mage guild for a chance to have Implosion, sometimes you just dont have the resources.

(Armageddon combo also is great)

Nevertheless you have to be extremly lucky to get CL and both artifacts. That rarely happens to me.

Shackles on the other hand are usefull, but they ruin the fun.

I agree that they help against h/r strategy. But when both players agree not to h/r, shackles should be forbidden.
Usually you have one main hero, and when he dies all you can do is to concede. When your main is alive you still have a chance

This is how I see it. But I play 95% friendly games.
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rychenroller
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posted November 22, 2001 06:29 AM

Spot on icon, couldnt have said it better.

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zsa
zsa


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posted November 26, 2001 04:52 AM

Actually this thing happened to me 3 games a go . I had the pendant of negativity and chain lightning. I'm telling u it SIMPLY wrecked havoc .

So I agree with Icon and Ryche penadnt-CL combo is sweet .

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destro23
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posted November 28, 2001 04:44 PM

Shackles Should be forbidden????? Good lord.. What nonsense.

There is nothing better than sitting there all though a big fight and he is almost done for.. that last arch angel is about to move first in (unknown to him) his last combat round.  And that message pops up...

hehehehehe

As for this meteor - chain - res thingy.. there really is no question.. res is great for the map. ... meteor is easily countered, ie, outmanuevering its puny range, Chain is Devastating,  even if your opponent is down to 3 stacks and you don't have a pendant.. that 4th and 5th hit the chain will do.. if sent in the right direction will hit you for a couple hundred damage at best. (assuming you have some nice stacks left) Implo - Great for skels... sucks with res.

Arma... hmmmmm BLAH need I say more.



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Thunder
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posted November 29, 2001 10:36 AM
Edited By: Thunder on 29 Nov 2001

Town Portal: Is clearly the best fourth level spell and  equal with DD. Fly is only weaker version of Dimension Door.

Best Battle Spells (not in order):
Clone: With certain creatures (Arch Angels, Mighty Gorgons, Chaos Hydras, Titans, etc.) this spell is most devastating battle spell around. When you have this spell at expert level (and you are Castle or Fortress) you will rarely cast anything else.

Prayer: This spell has won me many battles. I usually cast it in the first or in the second battle round.

Berserk: This spell is quite devastating even when it isn`t at expert level. Watch out for Inferno heroes, they tend to have this spell and Expert Fire Magic.

Resurrection: This spell might ensure that you wont lost too much troops in the first large battle. So you can handle second large battle soon after.

Also good spells are:
Armageddon, Counterstrike, Chain Lightning and Fire Shield.

By the way, if first stack resists the Chain Lightning there is no effect at all.
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Batvanio
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posted December 07, 2001 04:01 PM

Sure it is T-portal.
It can make a losing game a winner but only with Advanced Earth.
The best question I think is what is the most valuable third level spell?
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Jex
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posted December 21, 2001 11:58 PM

I agree with Thunder

Depending on maps you play Town Portal is more valuable then DD or Fly. For example on a randomXL when you have 5 castles or so.

On ToH closed maps, prolly resurrection the most important.

When festing i like beserk or town portal.

But it all depends on your style of playing.

The most important third is fairly simple - Anti Magic!! Unless your nerco or course


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Aculias
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posted December 22, 2001 12:22 AM

I used to love chain lightning for years, but i taken a new liking to bezerk & town portal for good reasons
Use bezerk on the fastest most strongest player,so they will hit another person
Town portal works good where you dont have to use a chain to pick up your creatures & also if someone is ready to evade your castle
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posted November 24, 2003 06:27 AM

1. Town Portal

2. Chain Lighting

3. Ressurect

4. Berserk

5. Prayer
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angelito
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posted November 24, 2003 09:27 PM

1. Sorrow

2. Slayer

3. Waterwalk


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