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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Creature Verdict!
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DonGio
DonGio


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of Clear Water Mountain Clan
posted November 18, 2001 07:00 PM

Creature Verdict!

Okay, I've taken a look at each of the HOMMIV creatures I found pics for, and here I will state my opinion of them. This will concern only the graphic aspect, so I will not take into consideration stats and other things. Simply if I like the way they look or not, and why. And then I'll rate them (yay) on a scale from 1-10, where 1 is worst and 10 is best.
Feel free to agree, disagree, argue or ramble!

Here it goes:

Angels - okey, not off to a good start here. If you take away that cheap plastic light-saber and those strap-on wings, you have a decent guy in armor. But what does an angel need armor for?!?!?! Rating: 3

Devils - well, not improving greatly, I'm afraid. Looks like a red skeleton with armor (again! what's this obsession with armor anyway?) The pitchfork is okay, but the rest... what's that licorice on his back supposed to portray? And those feet don't look very usable. Rating: 3,5

Behemoths - third time's a charm, right? Well, not exactly. It doesn't look all that frightening (more like a really old monkey), and the ultra-thick hairstrands look kinda weird. Rating: 3

Beholders - now we're getting somewhere! These I like! They look like mutated weed (not hash, just plain weed), and that's sort of funny. Not sure I'm thrilled about the beholder idea, though. Doesn't seem to fit in with the theme and atmosphere of the game, if you ask me (which noone has done, and that's why I'm making this list!) Rating: 6

Black Dragons - I think I can get used to this. Looks cool, except for one little detail (which we hopefully wont be able to see in-game) - it's eyeballs are pink. PINK! And yellow pupils! Makes him look like a LSD Dragon. Rating: 7

Bone Dragons - Looks like a skinned black dragon. If you look closely, I think you can see it's brain through the eye sockets (the pics are on hmm4.com). Nothing special about it, though. Rating: 5,5

Centaurs - Same problems as with all the "horsy" creatures -  the horse body looks chubby and useless. Plus he's got spikes for hair. Plus for the human part.
Rating: 4,5

Cerberus - Something looks wrong with this one. Malproportioned or something. Besides, the triangles on his back doesn't look very "realistic". Rating: 4

Champions - Looks good. A bit heavy on the coloring, perhaps. His lance looks like a candy cane. Rating: 7

Crusaders - Looks good. A slight minus for the sword, which in my opinion is to short and to fat. Rating: 7

Cyclops - Looks like the gay country fool! Ruches!  Very haute cauture! Rating: 3

Dwarves - Mostly good, although again I wonder at the use of color. Fluorescent blue tights? With bright red stripes? And dwarves most definetly have longer beards! At least down to their belts! Rating: 4,5

Efreeti - Cool. Only minus is the slightly chubby face. Rating: 8

Elves - Hard to say. Can't really make my mind up on this one. Nothing in particular to point out, but something seems... not quite right. Rating: ?

Fairy Dragons - no pic yet. High hopes for this one, though. Really liked it in HOMMIII

Gargoyles - no pic yet. Hope this'll be good as well. Much potential in the name.

Genies - looks great. Preserved the good looks from HOMMIII. Rating: 8,5

Gold Golems - looks like the acadamy award brought to life! Only it looks as if it's made from some cheap metal, or painted plastic. Looks like he's holding his breath, too, to appear more frightening, perhaps? Rating: 5

Griffins(i think that's what they mean by "griffons") - no pic yet. Hope they stick to the look they have.

Halflings - this is a crime towards all that is good and just! Looks like a vintage troll doll on an acid trip! Those glassy eyes are all the proof you need! Looks like he's member of a traveling circus or something! Rating: 1

Harpiess ¡V Well, it¡¦s hard for me to comment on this one. Looks hideous to me, but maybe that¡¦s the point? Looks more like a monstrosity than a monster, though. Rating: 2

Hydras - The pic¡¦s not bad, but it doesn¡¦t seem as imposing or mighty as it did in HOMMIII. If that was 3DO¡¦s intention, fine. If not, it¡¦s a shame. Rating: 5

Imps ¡V Top notch! This little guy looks extremely cool, he looks malevolent and mischievous at the same time. Very nice indeed! We want more of this! Rating: 9,5

Mages ¡V don¡¦t look bad, exactly, but they don¡¦t look like mighty wizards either. They look more like a Tibetan monk dressed in some ceremonial gown. I wish they would bring back the mage from HOMMIII, or even better, the HOMMII ones, with stars and moons on their robes! Rating: 4

Medusas ¡V no pic. Think they should keep it along the lines they¡¦ve been following on the previous games.

Minotaurs ¡V Looks tough (and this is important). Kinda miss that shiny breastplate the HOMMIII minotaur kings had, though (this was one of the few units who changed for the better from II to III, in my opinion). That really made them rock! Otherwise good. Rating: 7

Monks ¡V Very nice. Looks wise and meditative, but again I¡¦m amazed at the coloring. Is he going to a rave party with that belt? Come on, this is outrageous. A very stylish and good unit halfway ruined by some fluorescent hippie accessories. Rating: 7

Mummies ¡V Well, I didn¡¦t like him at first, but then my kid brother convinced me that he looks sort of cool. He looks more scared than anything else, though, and that might send out the wrong vibes. But a lively character, and most importantly ¡V the toilet paper! Rating: 7

Nagas ¡V another tough call. I¡¦m unsure about this one. It looks more like a swamp creature now, but I liked the ¡§shiny¡¨ look they had in the tower. But I can see myself warming up to these new nagas. But one can wonder: Are the new nagas alcoholics? Judging by their flashy noses ¡V a definite yes! Rating: 6

Nomads ¡V total failure! This really looks bad. The recurring horse problem is as present as ever, and the nomad is wearing a V-neck sweater and a checked pants? And the reins look like they¡¦ve frozen or something! Rating: 1,5

Ogre Magi ¡V we¡¦re on a nasty track here! Looks horrible (and not in the good sense!) This looks like your average granny wearing a face mask on Halloween! He/She/It is wearing Slippers! SLIPPERS! Did anyone complain about the vamp using shoes in battle? What about SLIPPERS!!! Bonus for the skull. Rating: 2

Orcs ¡V No no no no NO! What¡¦s this? Looks like a boar with a anteaters snoute on it¡¦s hind legs! Not to forget the nail polish! And I don¡¦t think orcs should wield axes. Give them a curved sword! And an orcish face, for **** sake! Rating: 2

Peasants ¡V Well this is something. They make the poor peasants out to look more miserable with each game. It¡¦s funny, all right, but I think it deprives peasants of their honor and pride. This peasant looks like he¡¦s hung over, scorbutic and has a touch of hepatitis! And an all-wooden pitchfork! These guys are gonna have a hard time in HOMMIV! Rating: 6,5

Phoenixes ¡V My feelings are ambivalent towards this one. If it was named flaming seagull, I think the look would be spot on. But it¡¦s not, is it? The HOMMII phoenix is the best yet, the HOMMIII firebird looked retarded, and whilst the HOMMIII phoenix looked cool with it¡¦s animated flames, that retarded firebird were still lurking in the background. The pic looks more like a carrion bird than a bird of prey (and I think it should be vice versa!) Rating: 4,5

Pikemen ¡V Now these look plain good. Nothing wrong, they look sturdy and ready to fight. They wear their allegiances colors, and nothing else fancy. Good. Rating: 8

Skeletons ¡V Looks like cruel, nasty skeletons! I wish they would take away those remaining scraps of armor, though. It seems strange that each and every skeleton has the same pieces left. Rating: 8

Sprites ¡V Too scantily clad, too ugly and to many colors. Give her some more clothes, a pretty face, some one or two (max three) ¡Vcolored wings, and you¡¦ve got yourself a winner! Rating: 4

Thunderbirds ¡V This is bad. Looks like something out of Pokemon. Looks way too hi-tech. The bird also looks fat and clumsy, nothing like an elegant winged killer. Besides, it only has feathers on the wingtips. The rest of the body is covered in some kind of er¡K goo? Rating: 3,5

Titans ¡V Good from the neck up. If the whole body was covered with that type of armor, it would look cool. But let¡¦s face it: Loincloths held in place by red and blue terry cloth bands ¡V not intimidating! Rating: 4,5

Troglodytes ¡V Looks like a blind frog with a spear. The frog looks good, but is it a trog? Rating: 5

Trolls ¡V Looks good, although he doesn¡¦t much resemble the Nordic trolls, but I guess we¡¦ll have to learn to live with that. All in all, good. Looks simpleminded, green and crazy. I like him. Rating: 7,5

Unicorns ¡V Urrgh! My little Pony! No further comment. Okay then, drop the colored hair, and you¡¦re halfway there (and that, my friends, is called rhyming). The horsy creature which physics looks the least out of order. But still¡K Rating: 3

Vampires ¡V This is one of the hot potatoes on the board. I¡¦m not that into vampires, but he looks cool and evil to me, so I¡¦ll let it slide. I think the thing causing argument here is not that the vamp is poorly done, only that there is disagreement in the portraying of vampires. Rating: 7

Zombies ¡V Two words: female zombies? What the¡K That just doesn¡¦t work for me. Make him a man, man. She doesn¡¦t look like she could hurt a fly. More chance of the fly hurting her. The bones sticking out are cool, though, if a bit overdone. But the rotten flesh doesn¡¦t look rotten ¡V just green and with really large veins. Change it to a man, add some and work a little on the flesh, and voila! A Grrreat zombie! Rating: 4

Bandits ¡V Yeah! This bandit looks groovy! Cool outfit and nice attitude. A minor problem is that he seems to have got the eyeholes a bit wrong, but hey, they¡¦re bandits, not housewives! Rating: 9

Ballista ¡V Good. Like the wooden look, like the honest fella operating the thing, just plain like it. A creature you can get attached to. Rating: 8

Berserker ¡V This guy looks like he eats Keith Richards for breakfast! This is one of the few creatures with good-looking hair (and by that I mean real-looking, not necessarily *good-looking*), and he has the classic disdain for armor and a nice barbaric axe (is it just me, or is the axe 3DO¡¦s favorite weapon?). A touch fruity, though, with boot fringes. Rating: 7,5

Crossbowmen ¡V Looking good, looking good. He¡¦s adopted his fighting stance, and is firing at will! But once again, a curiosity called ¡§blue tights¡¨ has sneaked in. It¡¦s a mystery to me. Are these warriors color blind? Rating: 7

Dragon Golems ¡V If it was any other game, I¡¦d say it was cool (apart from the geek, that is (isn¡¦t the point of golems that they¡¦re animated, and hence can move on their own?)), but with HOMM, I just don¡¦t know. Besides, it looks more like a mechanized dragon than an animated statue. Thumbs down for this one. Rating: 2,5

Ghosts ¡V They¡¦re back, but now they look like Caspers niece from Tchernobyl! I can¡¦t picture this one working out. Besides, why is the face so wide? Don¡¦t like it. Rating: 3

Ice Demon ¡V Hard to tell. This could be really awesome, but it could also be too futuristic and alien. I trust the game makers on this one, and give it the benefit of the doubt. Rating: 8

Leprechauns ¡V Mostly good, but again with too much of a ¡§cartoonic¡¨ face for me. He looks like he¡¦s on speed! But great colors and outfit. I hope this one will be good. Rating: 5,5

Nightmares ¡V The concept of black horse with fiery mane is excellent, but the artwork here is just terrible. Fat and chubby, not a sleek and elegant mare radiating death and terror, as it should be. That horses ass needs a wide load sign! Why are their vision of horses so distorted? Even our Fjordings, who are some of the ¡§fattest¡¨ horses, only used for pulling plows and the likes, seems nimble and agile compared to the ¡§3DO horse¡¨. Rating: 2,5

Mantis ¡V This is beautiful. Another matter is whether this creature belongs in the game, but as far as graphics go, this is excellent. Rating: 9

Mermaids ¡V Mermaids are supposed to be beautiful! Is it out of compassion for the ugly that 3DO makes all the women in this game butt ugly? Or is it to avoid accusations of sexism (I seriously doubt the latter ƒº). And I don¡¦t like the green, SHORT hair. I don¡¦t think mermaids should fight at all, but that¡¦s not what this thread is about, so I¡¦ll leave it. Rating: 3

Pirates ¡V These guys look like full-bred pirates, all right! Correct outfit and a challenging stare (or was it hazy) Nothing to put down here! Rating: 8,5

Satyrs ¡V WOW! There are two pics of the satyr, both great, but the first is simply magnificent! You can almost feel his hypnotic gaze paralyze you! He¡¦s caught in motion, and it just looks so right. The transition from horse to man is depicted perfectly, and the hair, the skin tone, the slightly cocked head, and ¡K just¡K I can¡¦t praise this enough¡K Rating: 6 (no, just kidding, a clear tennerƒº)

Sea Monsters ¡V Well, everything has to be disappointing after watching that enchanting satyr, but this is not good. Looks half dead already. Rating: 3,5

Squires ¡V A decent fellow, not radiating power and danger, exactly, but oh well¡K His red shirt isn¡¦t as hideous as those blue tights, but is it necessary? I think not. His stance seems a bit unnatural too, perhaps a result of a new and unaccustomed situation (as the name implies) Rating: 6

Venom Spawn ¡V Here¡¦s an idea: Let¡¦s make a shiny, green plant with tilted eyes and pointy teeth! It would make a great creature! Or NOT! The artwork is nice, but doesn¡¦t fit in with Heroes at all, as far as I can see. Rating: 4

Waspwort ¡V This is the most ridiculous creature I¡¦ve ever seen. If they wanted some insects, they could have had a killer bee hive or something. This is just silly. It doesn¡¦t look cool either. Rating: 1,5

White Tigers ¡V A great beast, no doubt, but not very fantastical (off-topic, I know). Craftily done, lacks a certain something which is hard to pinpoint. Will probably be cool. Rating: 7

Wolves ¡V Okay, I know I¡¦ve said this before, but wolves are supposed to be skinny! Even a well fed wolf looks skinny compared to domesticated dogs! That aside, the head is out of proportion, looks all wrong. And the tail doesn¡¦t look good either. Rating: 4


Conclusion: The quality of the creature graphics differs greatly. Some are excellent, some just suck and a large number are different places in between the two extremities. All in all, I think the game and it's graphics will turn out good.

Okay, that¡¦s it, hope you enjoyed it, or were provoked, or that you simply read the whole thing! And don¡¦t take it too seriously, it¡¦s a pretty superficial assessment, and I¡¦m very aware of that. But don¡¦t let that stop you from sharing your views.

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Promising
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Elemental Druid
posted November 18, 2001 08:53 PM

Unicorns...

If it was this pic



you were talking about I understand your rating.
But this one



deserves more than 3 points. I liked the golden mane of the H3 war unicorn more, but the last one is not bad at all.
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posted November 18, 2001 08:59 PM

Yes, I'll agree to that. But I still dislike the rainbow-colored hair. It screams My little pony! But that last pic is maybe a five, or even six?
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Elemental Druid
posted November 18, 2001 09:02 PM

Yeah!

Six sounds good...
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posted November 18, 2001 09:46 PM

What the unicorn doesn't need:
-rainbow colored hair( at least not these colors)
-big fat butt
About the others, I'll be back really soon with my critics.
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posted November 18, 2001 09:57 PM

DonGio, Your thread was the coolest I`ve ever seen! ...so here`s my stuff:

ANGEL - Looks too human-like, mortal to me. I don`t actually like the idea of Angels in Homm. They should be immortal, shouldn`t they? But, well, I kinda like the artwork. Let`s say 7.5

BALLISTA - Ok, the machine itself is super, but the dude sittin` on it looks really stupid with all that hair and i-don`t-give-a-snow looking. At least he`s not purple... 3.5

BANDIT - Looks like a bandit to me. Pretty good one. Nothing special, but nothing to complain about. 7.5

BEHEMONTH - A gorilla with elephant`s legs and huge claws. Hair look very unrealistic. Still not a very bad one... Looks really powerful. 4

BEHOLDER - Evil guy. Actually a very good piece of art. And it even kinda fits in Homm. The bad part is where the "legs" come out. 6.5

BERSERKER - Hair look realistic but kinda stupid too. The nose looks very wide and strange too. Not as rageous as it should be, but 5.5

BLACK DRAGON - Looks clumsy but still powerful. Those pink eyeballs are not very good. and the head is a bit too dog-like, but I`ve always liked dragons, so 7. By the way they look really cool in combat...

BONE DRAGON - Cool mysterious eyes. Although the ribs look unrealistic and the legs look clumsy. 7

CENTAUR - Punk is dead. 3

CERBERUS - Each head looks too different. The teeth don`t look very sharp, although they are big... These legs couldn`t carry three heads btw... 3.5

CHAMPION - Purple. Are haven creatures all gay? Well the rest of the creature looks fine. Oh, one more thing - the guy on the horse has very long legs. 4.5

CROSSBOWMAN - Purple, but cool. And... the purple suit looks like plastic to me. The dude looks like he`s Scottish... 7.5

CRUSADER - Cool. Silver surfer. 7.5

CYCLOPS - Looks like he is going to say "What the snow is going on here? Very dumb looking skinhead. And why is his mouth open? 3.5

DEVIL - Hmmm... Dude with red bug`s legs and Neptune`s fork wears silver armor, has wings and laughs. Maybe it doesn`t sound so bad as it looks. 2

DRAGON GOLEM - What`s next? Spaceship controlled by Cinderella? 1.5

DWARF - Why is he wearing those red-striped sport trousers if he looks otherwise ok? 8

EFREET - Yeah! True representative of the powers of fire! 9

ELF - Her skin is too white, otherwise she rules. 7

GENIE - Yes, it`s ok. 8

GHOST - A very ugly face. Very ugly... 2

GOLDEN GOLEM - Powerful dude. 7.5

HALFLING - A doll, that`s all. 1

HARPY - Is she smiling? If she is then it`s bad. Those feathers are not feathers btw. 2

HYDRA - Cool, but doesn`t have the power... Heads are too small and two legs are missing. ...or it should have no legs at all. 6

ICE DEMON - Alien? Probably yes. Futuristic? Yes ofcourse. But it just kicks ass. My favourite creature from my favourite terrain. 10

IMP - Very evil and naughty. And a veeryy loong foork. Those eyes really kick it! 10, but ice demon`s still better.

LEPRECHAUN - First I hated them, but now I`ve got used to them. Let them be. 5

MAGE - Looks too weak. Could be a scholar or something. 5.5

MANTIS - Doesn`t probably fit to the game, but it looks truely good. 6.5

MERMAID - Umm... The tits are kinda wrong-shaped heh... But they are kind of a kewl creatures... 8.5

MINOTAUR - Eyes are not true and they could wear more armor, but 8

MONK - I liked when the face was hidden. I liked when he was not purple. I liked the old one. 5

MUMMY - Should be more covered with that TI. Legs look lame. 5.5

NAGA - dark and bold. Red nose. Hmm. I don`t like it. 3.5

NIGHTMARE - I like it. Really. Cooler than Black Beauty. 8

NOMAD - No. ...problem, but not a good one either. 4.5

OGRE MAGI - A female ... ogre? With a potato-lookin` nose? Umm... 2.5

ORC - Pig with very fake hair. Did Tolkien imagine them as pork? 3.5

PEASANT - Well, they look awful, but they probably should. Poor guys. 1.5

PHOENIX - Level 4? Don`t think so. Someone has put a robin on fire. Otherwise, for the graphics itself, 6.5

PIKEMAN - Purple, but ok. Let them be. Gays are people too. 7.5

PIRATE - Nothing special, but fine. Too short swords. 7

SATYR - At first I hated them, but now I like them. Funny stuff... 8

SEA MONSTER - I like the first version... It looks dead, but still dangerous... 7.5

SKELETON - His eyes should be too holes of darkness. I mean he should have some eyes... The armor scks hard too. For these great minuses I give 5.5

SPRITE - Ugly snow with butterfly`s wings. 3.5

SQUIRE - Same as every other Haven - creature. PURPLE! And now red too. A bit psychedelic. Without that purple stuff it would be pure 10, or at least 8.5, now it`s 7.5

ZOMBIE - A dead snow with no weapons. 1

THUNDERBIRD - Hi-tech, but cool. Doesn`t fit in the game... 4.5

TITAN - I reeally liked them in homm3. Now they are worse, but not much. 8

TROGOLYDITE - Cool toad, but what is he going to do with this stick? A toilet brush could do more harm than that pathetic stick. Otherwise I like them... 8

TROLL - Should look more powerful, but I guess this stick is big enough to kill a bull... 8.5

UNICORN - Yes. It IS my little pony. Pity. 4.5

VAMPIRE - A gentlemen wearing Versace or something. Cool but a way high-tech for the Dark Ages... Still 9

WASPWORT - Stupid! Stupid! Useless! Looks like a water-pipe to mee, I don`t know why. I guess heroes wanna get high too... 5

VENOM SPAWN - 0 points, try again.

WHITE TIGER - I really like the idea of ordinary wild animals in homm. 10

WOLF - No. It`s a dog. But I stil like it. Well it`s somwhere between 7 and 9, so let`s say 8.

THIS IS ALL. I MOSTLY LIKE THE NEW CREATURES (except some excellent excamples of pure crap) AND I THINK THE GAME HAS GONE MORE INTO FANTASY... I LIKE FANTASY, SO FOR ALL CREATURES TOGETHER I GIVE 10, CAUSE HOMM4 IS ALREADY MY FAVOURITE GAME...



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posted November 19, 2001 12:05 AM


Angels – hopefully there will be aura instead of  plastic around them.No need for armor, indeed.They should check the pictures inside a church….it’s a 7.

Ballista – good drawing, but mind this: in reality the bow is not metal, made, man!…it’s 8.

Bandit – good work, still they could use a gown….it’s a 9.

Behemots – who said they should be gorillas with big claws? Not scary…need redesign….it’s a 4.

Beholders – if all are claws, how do they walk? Or they fly? Need some feet there…it’s a 5.

Berserker – mad face, I like it…still more muscle needed….it’s a 7.

Black dragons – except the LSD eyes (I liked that…he..) and the wings are cool.If they are to fly they need larger wings…it’s a 9.

Bone dragons – any anatomist would lough to death….the front limbs are hilarious…still a 6.

Centaur – is that a punker?or a homo? The horse-butt is too large…check horse-anatomy….4.

Cerberus – except the tail is quite ok, maybe some details added, like hair… 7.

Champion – purple not the best color …but great after all….this is 9.5

Crossbowman – good work ….10.

Crusader – good, but the legs are too thin….9.5

Cyclops – ok, but more muscle needed….8.

Devil – the skeleton of Captain Cook? Needs a human face and a left-hand with a weapon …5

Dragon Golem – brrrrr…..0.

Dwarf – nice…8.

Efreet – nice face, but the ring is unstable on his biceps – the drawer has no idea of human arms….7.

Earth Elemental – it’s got all it’s needed….10.

Elf – badly drawn bow, and since when a woman?….it’s a 5.

Genie – in Alladin it had a beard, now a woman?…5

Ghost – the designer happens to be a woman? A feminist one?…but the looks are cool….9.

Gold Golem – I love the guy…muscle, noble face, shining…..10.

Halfing – nice outfit, but why hair on legs and big eyes?….8.

Harpy – they should  check on Hallmark the movie with the argonauts…that is a stupid face…4.

Hydra – longer necks comparative to the body please…it shoud rise into the air, not crawl like a lizard…6.

Ice demon – cool ice…10.

Imp – what can you expect from an imp? The weapon is perhaps too large…8.

Leprechaun – brrrrrrr…..0.

Mage – the old chinese is tired perhaps…They have a fix with purple!!! ….7

Mantis – here their imagination ended…for copying the nature….1.

Mermaid – they are supposed to be very attractive….and they’re not!….6.

Minotaur – looks fine, but why the underwear? Does it have anything to hide? …9.5

Monk – the purple drives me crazy!…8

Mummy – the ping-pong balls are eyes? Where are the royal insignia of a real mummy?…7

Naga – bald woman with a red nose, is she drunk? Too colorfull….6.

Nightmare – check the horse anatomy please! Big butt!…7

Nomad – is it  a huge horse or a child on it? Horse anatomy, please!…4.

Ogre Magi – old lady with sandals and long dress, not ogre at all…3.

Orc – except that stuff on his legs, is ok….8

Peasant – symbol of impotence, it’s ok,….8

Phoenix – I hope that fire burns, or else…just a dead chicken…8.5

Pikeman – again purple….9.5

Pirate – oh, noble man, how is your queen today?…..1.

Satyr – I hope it doesn’t dance….3.

Sea monster – brrrrr…..0.

Skeleton – stripped would be better…..5.

Sprite – if we are to have sprites again, this will do…7

Squire – is that purple again?….9

Thunderbird – lovely, but barbarians really needed a roc….10.

Titan – stupid helmet and armor….at least he’s tall….6.

Troglodyte – not a frog please…5.

Troll – good work ….9.5

Unicorn – check horse anatomy please….3.

Vampire – a perfect gentleman, but where is his Lamborghini? Where is his pistol? Are there new clothes at Armani? I need a  whiskey to forget his appearance….shame on the drawer…..0.

Venom spawn – brrrrrr…….0

Waspworth – a plant was missing….0

White tiger – cool stuff, why blue eyes?……9.5

Wolf – check dog anatomy, too….5

Zombie – that’s half a skeleton….we should see it’s brains, like in h2, and why a woman?….2.


In the end, too many women, too much purple,  the horses have too big butts.







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posted November 19, 2001 05:57 AM

I didn`t say that they should look like gorillas with da claws. I said they should NOT look like gorillas with big claws.
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posted November 19, 2001 07:44 AM

Interesting thread, but it seems that you can't please everybody...
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Reality Impaired
posted November 19, 2001 09:00 AM

I know that there have already been opinions but here are some of mine:

Angel:What is that thing it is holding? A sword or an extra long beam of light? And whats with the glow? Stature is pretty good. (6)

Ballista:I liked it better without the little man in the back. (7)

Bandit:Really like it. Shows how a real bandit should look. And i like the way he holds his knives. (9)

Behemoth:An overgrown hairy chimp with claws. (5)

Beholder:Let me be the first to say i hate it! It is an alienated freak! The only good thing is that it doesn't have a brained-shaped head! (3)

Beserker:Strong posture but legs to far apart. Not bad. (7)

Black Dragon:Comparisons show it is as big as a beserker but it might be perspective. Wings could be bigger. (6)

Bone Dragon:Looks like it has broken its front two legs! Also it is too thin. (4)

Centaur:I refuse to believe they are going to include a mohawked man in the game! Oh well. I rather he kept his spears in an oversized quiver. (3)

Cerberus:UUUUUUUUGGGGLLLYYYY! The freak impression of a greyhound. (2)

Champion:Not a flaw as far as im concerned (besides the purple). (9)

Crossbowman:Same as above. No flaws. Judging by the comments i think that the crossbowmen can go far. (10)

Crusader:Nothing except that his sword is too far away from his body. Too short and broad (the sword). (8)

Cyclops:There isn't a hell because i've already been there! Horrible! (1)

Devil:Very strange. Pitchfork for hand. Leathery wings. A true satan. (6)

Dragon Golem:I'd prefer it if there was no man in the back (see ballista) but otherwise a work of art. (8)

Dwarf:Normal short stubby man. Vive la originallity. (10)

Efreet:Expresses the true figure of the Efreet. Big and fiery. Great with both thumbs up. (10)

Elf:Little bit skinny but pretty good (what ever happened to male elves)? (7)

Genie:No flaws but a different bra if you please! (9)

Ghost:Why is it holding it's head? Freak if you ask me with the green glow! (3)

Gold Golem:I like the Egyptian attitude. (9)

Halfling:Just like a store manakin at those Strassman shows! (1)

Harpy:I have seen the bride of my nighmares! (1)

Hydra:Is a bit out there but is sort of capturing its appearance. (5)

Ice Demon:Too futuristic and modern but not bad graphics. (7)

Imp:To be perfectly frank i think it looks a bit stupid. The pitchfork is oversized and it is too small. (4)

Leprechaun:Little green man lives on! (9)

Mage:I've always liked Mages but it looks like it is wielding lantern on a bent stick. (7)






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DonGio
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Promising
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of Clear Water Mountain Clan
posted November 19, 2001 10:01 AM

Thanks for the replies!

It seems we all agree on some things:

*All but Vlad really hates that Halfling (oh, and Vlad: Hair on feet because Tolkien said so!)

*The Waspwort gets it as well!

*Noone seems overly fond of the Behemoth either

*Venom Spawn...

*The Bandit is very much approved!

*Same for the Efreet!

Vlad: Of course he'll dance (the Satyr)! He'll dance a hypnotic dance and stare you into a trance with those hypnotic eyes and then, he'll KILL YOU! (not you, Vlad, a generic you)

Myste (and all others for that sake), what do you think of the Satyr?

Vlad: Where have you seen pic of earth elementals?

And Mods (or whoever it is that censor these pages): When I wrote cocked head, I meant tilted head, and nothing else! Or is it an automatic censorer?
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posted November 19, 2001 01:55 PM

Offtopic: Autofilter

Certain words are get "starred" by the board's automation. One of those is the one you used. So, the cock can't crow, you can't cock a crossbow, and no cockroaches are allowed. <insert 'shrug' emoticon here>
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posted November 19, 2001 08:49 PM

from incubus...

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I think this guy(Dongio) needs a QP! Very original thread! You got the banned one his vote!

My list is:

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Number 0 Just to bad for my comments..

What's special about this animal? If I like to see wolves I will watch Discovery Channel..
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Number 1 to 4 Very very VERY ugly creatures:


They were so DAMN cool in HOMM3! What happend to them? Did they went to a toyshop to buy some weapons? And look at their wings.. This seems to be FAKE angels to me... Men that bought their wings at the toyshop. also their weapons.. CYFER=1


I wish there were NO peasants at all! Look at their dump appearance! NO! This is a stupid mistake made by NWC! CYFER=1


Creatures with heads of a pig are called RAZORMANE not orc.. Orcs are tought green race... I think they were to lazy to create boars and orcs.. so they just put them togheter in one! LOL or the boar and it's raider(from HOMM3 exp) did some nasty things toghether? This is what comes from nasty games >;o) CYFER=2(for the good graphics.. but the creature sucks)


Leviathan,siren how many other sea creatures would love to see the daylight into this game? But no.. 3DO made one by their own immagination.. A BIG failure if you ask me! CYFER=1


My version of the Titan is somehow much cooler! This geek look like he is drunk.... He wears almost no armor at all! This guy seems to be very attractive for the gay fans.. but not for me! CYFER=3


I think they were out of ideas.. they putted this human into the wrong game.. I really hate this human creature... CYFER=2


I think 3DO was in a hurry when they made this one.. I think his creator must have done his pipi and then forgot to finish this VERY boring creature... CYFER=1


No Comments... Fist tell me what this creature is and what he does.. then I give some good comments? CYFER=1


Gheheheheh!.............NO! I like female monsters... But to make women zombies? I think they are all gay at NWC... This cruelity I not wish to any female I see! How rude! CYFER=1

MEDUSA
I will tell you that I lost interest in this creature because of NWC.. Medusa's were first one of my favorite creatures... but now... I hate them! CYFER=1
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Number 5 to 6 Some better creatures but still UGLY


Good Try but this buddy didn't stole my heart..... I don't like machines... CYFER =6


Good for the ZOO.. It looks very friendly to me.. I like a pet like this >;o) But a real dragon/creature slayer? I can't make of it.. And I guess they just watched King Kong when they made up this creature.. CYFER=5


Just take of the skin of the black dragon and you have a Bone dragon.. VERY Unoriginal.. But the graphics are greath.. CYFER=6


3DO?? this creatures should be vain and beautifull... this is not very beautifull.. And if he ever saw himself in the lake this creatures would kill themself... Give them a second head and I may change my mind..CYFER=5


In mythology the cerberus was higher then a man.... This cerberus looks like he is just smaller then the smallest dog I have ever seen! The red manes are cool tought.. Altought it should be snakes..
CYFER=6


Common guys! Ive seen better cyclops!CYFER=6


Very original try 3DO.. But Change it into a balrog.. I hate devils.... They are so so so so BORING.. The graphics are greath tought.. Only flying with burned wings?CYFER=6


Should be perfect into a Command & Conquer game... But in a fantasy world NO!
The graphics are very cool tough....CYFER=5


I don't like dwarfs even when they are made cooler then a nightmare.. they just are little humans.. and I hate Beer people.. They drink much.. and I think that their graphics are bad too...CYFER=5


I Like all kinds of elves.. but normal elves are boring tolkien creatures... They suck... This female amazone are fine drawed/created.. but they don't have long ears.. And like I said before I don't like wood/normal elves..CYFER=5


The failure of his head made me love hobbits/halflings! I like them now! Even when they are just hobbits But still not good for higher cyfer..CYFER=6


Cool Graphics but onoriginal creature... I like the enchanters from HOMM3! Why not use their skins?CYFER=6


Brother tuck should be jalous! But no... I like the blue appearance of the zealots of homm3 to much.. also the glowing thing out of their face is missing... This one looks kinda boring..CYFER=5


Nomads should be able to resist a sand storm right? I think this stupid looking horse would not even survive a furt of a hobbit.. But the bin laden on the horse looks fine >;o) CYFER=6


I even named my email to this fire bird... But the creation they made this time.... It looks cool.. But look better at his head! YUCK! That's not my little phoenix! That's a Pigion that has landed on a barbuque!CYFER=5


I wish they made the pirates like the ones with hooks and Eye things... This ones looks like my grandpa! CYFER=6


COOL Graphics.. But STUPID creature..CYFER=6


I miss the cool sprites from Armageddons blade already! This ones are green skinned and look freaky ugly.. even for a fairies chick.. I lost my appetit..CYFER=5


Altought his graphics are nice.. I wonder where NWC get this idea? There are many creatures waiting to be in this game.. and what do they put in.. Some stupid replacer for the Wyvern...CYFER=6
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Number 7 to 9 Good creatures


They look cool.. but I never liked rogues/bandits very much... But nice anyway. CYFER=7


I miss the little eyes around his head like evil eye had.... But it's a cool creature anyway!CYFER=7


Funny and cool looking picture.. but it's just a human... To many humans already...CYFER=7


I love centaurs.. And I will never stop loving them! his hairstyle is weird but I will use to it... And I rather see a bow as weapon.. But cool anyway! CYFER=8


Very awsome creation from 3DO! I kinda like it! even when it's a human! The colours look very original too!CYFER=9


I like humans from now on! 3DO made them look greath! for the very fist time in history a human get high points from incubus! RARE! CYFER=8


I really like their egyptian style! the whole Acedemy seems to be in EGYPTIAN style.. I like his graphics and i'm glad they choosed the GOLD version ) CYFER=8


Ghosts.. I never met ghost in HOMM.. This is the first time.. Altought I think it's head is to big.. I like the Idea! CYFER=7


I like this new harpy style! Do you? Only It's face looks stupid...CYFER=8


How should this creature walk? I like hydras.. but the ones without any feet are much better.. CUT THE FEET! How is this creature suppose to walk?CYFER=8


I like the first version much more! The other looks like a Kid rapper... I hate that one!
But I would love to kill these creatures..They look good in green! CYFER=8


Good Very good... Mermaids are suppose to are ugly... The only pretty mermaid was Lorelei(Hexa has some cool Lorelei pictures in his avatar thread.. the ones with the dragon familiar are Lorelei.. Lorelei is the only mermaid with long blond/golden hair.. But this mermaid is very cool indeed! I love the Triton weapon!CYFER=8


They don't look very evil or scary to me.. That's the only reason they don't score a 10...
CYFER=8


This creature will always in my mind.. long discusions this creature made out on this board..
I like their appearance.. Only it always reminds me that I have to go to the bathroom...
CYFER=8


This creature only has a 7 because of it's graphics.. But the ogre are rough... this one looks like a witch! CYFER=7


I love Satyrs! this ones looks very gay..But I like him... NO I"M NOT GAY! But I like the graphics..
Fairies beware! *Looking back at the fairy picture* AHHHHHHHH NO!11 Succubi come back! CYFER=8


They look very good indeed! They stole my bones! eah... heart! CYFER=9


THUNDERBIRD!!! I CHOOSE YOU! Lol! I don't know why I love this creature... But I guess because of his power to controll weather... Weather creatures aways got a CYFER=9 From me >;o)


Common guys! Lets play with our my little ponnies! I think it should be better with a pegasus.. His horn is isn't as greath aswel... But ah.. I'm in a good mood. CYFER=7


I knew it was a troll from the very start! But I kept it secret >;o) I like the flies.. maybe even more then the troll himself.. But CYFER=7


MUCH better! much cooler! much more like Incubus! This is incubus style! a big CYFER=9


He got a 10 for graphics a 1 for being in the preserve a 10 for original(YES MY IDEA! J/K)
a 5 because he only has 1 head.. I think he needs a CYFER=9
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Cyfer 10 PERFECT!


I just love her new egyptian style! Cool snake on here head! she is a creature that makes me want to play the game right now!CYFER=10(for the stupid)


TADA! A big surprice insn't it? Yeah this guy looks VERY cool in graphics and very cool in gameplay... I love him this time.. My hate is gone... NO NOT YOU TOLKIEN! I hate you forever! But the crusader stole my heart.. i'm gay..i'm comfess LOL J/K!!!! BUT very cool creature CYFER=10+(for the stupid)


A creature that really impresses me! coooooooooooooooooooool! Look at his graphics! WoW! good job NWC! You may be pround on your creation now >;o)CYFER=10(For the stupid)


Same story as the efreet.. only with a pussy...>)CYFER=10(for the stupid)


Cool creation of NWC.. I am so curious at his specials! CYFER=10


From wIMP to coolguy! Wow in wich bar this guy has been? I like his new style! CYFER=10
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My 2 COOLEST Creatures: They got a 100000!


He is like a baby to me! It's not only my wish..It's also my Idea! Yeah that's the spirit!


Nightmare is after the Succubus and the 2 HEADED white ice tiger(my mascote) my favorite creature... I love the way they are made and it's like a wish come true! *Picking away some tears* LOL!
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Okay this is my list.. Hope you enjoyed it!

Incubus

PS give the QP to the person who post this for me )-


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a vampire of taste
posted November 19, 2001 11:40 PM

I'll try to post the Earth Elementals pic (it's an animated gif)  on a separate thread so those who don't know it will see it.
About halfings: I don't hate them, I only said the hair on their legs ( very much visible...) is unapropriate, but I like their clothes and also their hair (head hair) and face.
Most of us think the same, as I see, but there are also differences in sensitive cases (at least for me) like the vampire...too bad.
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a vampire of taste
posted November 20, 2001 12:07 AM

I can't paste the animated gif in the window, so if you don't know how the elementals will look, on hmm.com at features page, at the top of sub-link pages you will see all four of them. They look ok, maybe except the fire elem, I don't see why it's head is set on fire.
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Camelnor


Famous Hero
Also known as Blue Camel
posted November 20, 2001 01:32 AM

you mean hmm4.com??

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Camelnor


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Also known as Blue Camel
posted November 20, 2001 01:38 AM

cuz...

its not on hmm4.com... and if it is, then just give us the direct link.

and hmm.com doesnt seem to be a site.

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of Clear Water Mountain Clan
posted November 20, 2001 10:09 AM

Thanks for the praise, Incubus (although I'm not quite sure whether I should take that as a compliment or not, coming from a Tolkien hater! J/K)

And he means hmm4.com, of course. I got that. And I've checked the elementals out. Thanks for the tip.

Water elemental: Very cool. Lost their geeky semi-fish look and now they look like terrific and dangerous elementals!Rating: 9,5

Air elemental: Very cool. They've kept the look from HOMMIII, just enhanced. It looks fantastic! Rating: 9,5

Fire elemental: Very cool. He's more in sync with the other elementals (that's a bit inaccuratly put: The elementals are more in sync with eachother now). Rating: 9,5

Earth elemental: Looks powerful, if a bit more like a mud elemental. Think this one'll be great too. Rating: 9
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posted November 20, 2001 04:49 PM
Edited By: Tikky on 21 Nov 2001

Now do you know?

Go to hmm4.com. Click on features. Then click on MAGIC, SKILLS, CASTLES, COMBAT on the top of each of these pages (sub - links) you'll see an elemental. I don't know if this pages are correct but i think they are. If not click on any sub - link under features.
The elementals relly do look cool, I like the water one the most.
I know I'm going to write this a little late but anyway, why don't you just tell lets say 3 creatures you like the best and 3 creatures you hate the most.
To me Nightmares are relly cool and Devils and White tigers. But i don't like to mush Laprechauns (they smile funny...), orcs and  lets say satyrs ( i hope I wrote it right).  
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