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Heroes Community > MapHaven Guild > Thread: Vengeance is mine problem
Thread: Vengeance is mine problem
ramcrys
ramcrys

Tavern Dweller
posted April 01, 2008 02:24 PM

Vengeance is mine problem

The two quest guards in front of the tower land(just behind the monolith) asks for defeating Tirfa and Magarule , but these 2 heroes are Tower heroes , underground , and I think only have I entered the tower land , I can get underground for the 2 ! So how can do that ? I mean , it's a quest cannot be fulfiled !
Is it a bug in the version of the map I have ? Because there's a topic named "Best XL maps" in this forum , where I read from Ironfist that the quest guard only "ask for some speed artifact" ...

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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted April 01, 2008 09:06 PM

Remember at what place you started this map? The very beginning, where u had to fight with 1 evil eye and 1 ogre vs 15 battle dwarves?

Exactly from there u can enter snowland..















(visit the Fountain of Youth...and then go on.....)
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angelito
angelito


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posted April 04, 2008 08:26 PM
Edited by angelito at 20:52, 04 Apr 2008.

Ever tried "forcefield"?

All u need is a hugh stack of Archdevils, some single silver pegasi and 1 single archmagi. The pegasi are needed to increase spell costs for Draxinusom, the archmagi to decrease spell costs for you.

After u have killed the sharpshooters, u only need haste (prayer), anti-magic and forcefield to kill Draxinusom.
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ThatsIt
ThatsIt

Tavern Dweller
posted June 21, 2017 08:51 PM
Edited by ThatsIt at 20:56, 21 Jun 2017.

Barbarian

Hello

I'm stuck with last barbarian hero(Crag Hack pictured) hiding behind Magic Spring. I have read the pages 3,4 of topic "http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=5431" but I couldn't manage to do the fight according to suggestions there. Is there anyone who could give me a hand?

Stats and my main hero is down below. I also have 51 MGorgon and 70WMonarch


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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted June 21, 2017 09:21 PM

You obviously have much less raw power, so tell more about your spells and expertise. Can you cast expert forgetfulness, do you have blind, how much mana? If yes, I would nullify his shooters round one, then blind on rocs round 2. Then is only a matter of patience, as long as your ammo card is safe.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted June 21, 2017 09:43 PM

Salamandre said:
You obviously have much less raw power, so tell more about your spells and expertise. Can you cast expert forgetfulness, do you have blind, how much mana? If yes, I would nullify his shooters round one, then blind on rocs round 2. Then is only a matter of patience, as long as your ammo card is safe.
Also, do you have balistics or Meteor Shower? Cause those walls will go down too soon, if you don't.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 21, 2017 09:50 PM

He doesn't have, we see a portion of wall is already damaged. But this is not a big problem, once the rocs blinded, you continue to blind the others, then slow, then concentrate all arrows on one, cast blind before end of turn (lizards turn), repeat until done.

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ThatsIt
ThatsIt

Tavern Dweller
posted June 21, 2017 11:41 PM

I have 300 sp and got forgutfullness blind earthquake and teleport, got expert earth and water.

I dont have ballistics nor meteor shower.

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He doesn't have, we see a portion of wall is already damaged. But this is not a big problem, once the rocs blinded, you continue to blind the others, then slow, then concentrate all arrows on one, cast blind before end of turn (lizards turn), repeat until done."

I have tried this but the thing is arrow towers deal quite a lot of dmg (90 50 50 per turn) and shoot my sharpshooters. Sharps does 1k, enchanters 300 and lizards 200 behind the wall. This is very small and considering that arrowtowers kills 12 of sharpshooters per turn, it gets impossible to kill all those stuff. They have like 5k-10k Health

I can provide my save, if you wanna look at it

"https: //ufile.io/h0g57"
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted June 22, 2017 12:08 AM

Well, been a long time I played this map, but it looks to me this is the battle where sharps will be lost anyway and gone for ever, unless there is a way to get resurrect somewhere. Once everyone is blind and the wall down, others will do full damage. Maybe just defend with sharps until wall is down, will get less damage and last longer. Also your save is not before the battle, but several turns away.
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RoseKavalier
RoseKavalier


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posted June 22, 2017 12:50 AM
Edited by RoseKavalier at 00:51, 22 Jun 2017.

ThatsIt said:

I have tried this but the thing is arrow towers deal quite a lot of dmg (90 50 50 per turn) and shoot my sharpshooters.


Ahhh, the turret-armorer-specialist bug.
Assuming you're around level 30 here, you're getting 160% damage from turrets instead of 62.5% !

If the turrets are too nasty, you can always try to fight outside town but not sure if he'll be scared to attack.

Anyhow, use Dragonflies to block Cyclops early while you cast slow  and then blind stuff. With some Morale and lucky earthquake you might escape with relatively low losses.
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ThatsIt
ThatsIt

Tavern Dweller
posted June 22, 2017 12:54 AM

Well i wanted to give you option to pick whatever army you want, save just before fight is here "https://ufile.io/l05mj"

By the way he does not come out, i think it is programmed that way RoseKavalier
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ThatsIt
ThatsIt

Tavern Dweller
posted June 22, 2017 01:03 AM



Anyhow, use Dragonflies to block Cyclops early while you cast slow  and then blind stuff. With some Morale and lucky earthquake you might escape with relatively low losses.


300sp = 30 blind, i can deal max ~1kish dmg per turn and it will gradually decrease since they shoot sharpshooters. And i have massive army to kill.

I would like to wait more but these sharpshooters are given in occasion and there is no way to mass them, Lizards deal pitiful damage haha
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted June 22, 2017 01:50 AM

I don't recommend fighting outside, he has mass haste

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ThatsIt
ThatsIt

Tavern Dweller
posted June 22, 2017 03:21 PM
Edited by ThatsIt at 15:22, 22 Jun 2017.

Finally

Ok guys i have really put my ass up there and tried, reloaded , you know the stuff, its painful but we kinda love to do this in order to get the perfect game, so its all good.

Initially with that massive army strength difference it was impossible to win against crag

So I have done some fights in barbarian region again and also this time preserved more sharpshooters and lost less army in general. Also waited a bit more , well almost 1 month , and managed to put up a really good fight against crag.

Thanks Salamandre, bloodsucker and RoseKavalier for kind help

Here is screenshots for fun:




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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted June 22, 2017 04:01 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 16:03, 22 Jun 2017.

So you went with Gorgons Death Stare and No Retaliation. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Everytime I remember to see the shooters and castle walls trick it was possible to block the exits. As Salamandre himself pointed out the guy has Mass Haste, so once some walls are down he can came out with all his unblinded units at once.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted June 22, 2017 05:08 PM

Well, you tripled your army by waiting one month so thats not so hard. Yet I would be interested in winning that fight at the time you reach him, as it was surely intended. Congrats nevertheless.

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