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Thread: Behold! Battle of Valour. Tower vs Fortress. This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 · «PREV / NEXT»
thunderknight
thunderknight


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posted December 04, 2001 12:04 PM

Ok, now titans attacks mighty gorgons.

Titans move to the lower left side of MG, just outside the 10-hex range of lizards (hehehehe ) and also not close to IG so that CH cannot make multi-head attack (heheheh ).

Dam.= 7*(40-60)*0.72*0.85 = 214
Yes, just enough to kill 3 MG !!!
(well, Djive, mass cure is definitely a good move, , but titans are just lucky to kill 3 MG )

Now only 4 MG left.

Dam. = 4 *16 *0.86 = 55

7 titans left (207 hp left)
4 MG left (66 hp left)
Maybe thunder should calculate whether death stare works or not.

Now, it's turn of greater basilik.


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Djive
Djive


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posted December 04, 2001 12:51 PM

"(well, Djive, mass cure is definitely a good move, , but titans are just lucky to kill 3 MG )"

I thought it obvious that this turn the Dragonflies should've attacked the Titans to give them Weakness. Then they could neither have killed a Hydra nor 3 Mighty Gorgons. Then again this probably evens out because I don't think the latest wizard moves were optimal either.

Thunder, I'm a bit doubtful about this... Does the NQ's get to move this turn? When a stack is ressurrected from scratch they usually don't get to move the same turn in some cases, but then again I'm not sure in the case the ressurrection happen before the stack would usually have moved.

I can't get that pic to load... It sounds to me like the CH should be able to attack the NQ and the Titans, but I'll have to check that out further later.

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Thunder
Thunder


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posted December 04, 2001 05:37 PM
Edited By: Thunder on 5 Dec 2001

Chaos Hydras are able to attack both Titans and Iron Golems or Titans and Naga Queens (even Gorgons aren`t in way).

And for moves done so far, I woulnd`t have done none of them. But I won`t tell either what I would have done. That would be sort of like advising.

And Golems are behind the Chaos Hydras. That is wrote on "summary".

Furthermore, Titans didn`t got Death Stared.


Resurrected creatures are able to move on the round when they were resurrected, unless they have been killed in the round(s) before that. Atleast on SoD, and we are using the SoD rules here.

And back to Greater Basilisks....................



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Djive
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posted December 04, 2001 06:14 PM
Edited By: Djive on 4 Dec 2001

I don't want to risk the GB stoning the Titans before attacking them with the Chaos Hydra (half damage then)... Therefore:

!Greater Basilisks move and attack Iron Golems!

Greater Basilisks do 31 * 10 * 1.40 (A/D difference is +8) = 434 damage to Iron Golems. Killing 13 (6+12*35) and leaving the fourteenth at 27 health.

There are 18 Iron Golems remaining.

Added:
Moderator should check for stoning here. If the Golems are stoned then the retaliation won't happen.

Iron Golems retaliate doing 18 * 4.5 * 0.6 (A/D difference is -20) *  0.85 = 41 damage. Killing 1 Greater Basilisk and leaving the top with 39 Health.

There are 30 Greater Basilisks remaining.

It's now turn of the Chaos Hydra.

Btw. I checked on the NQ. They didn't get a turn when I tried. I believe if the stack is 'dead' at the start of the turn, they don't get to move until next turn.

Added:
The OG's were killed by the DF's. They had 15*16+6=246 Health and the DF's did 255 damage. This leads me to wonder what the Wyvern Monarchs actual action is. Thunder... seems you need to make a decision here.

Added:
One more slight addition. Each MG does maximum damage +1 = 17, so they dealt 58 damage instead of 55, though I don't think this will matter much.
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Tristan
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posted December 04, 2001 06:47 PM
Edited By: Tristan on 4 Dec 2001

Sorry about that with the OGs, I was thinking the number remaining was how many full health, plus one more with 6 health.

My suggestion on WMs is to make them have waited, otherwise we would have to go back and change everything since then.

Sorry about posting without a move, but waiting for Thunder to decide where we are.  Anyhow, thanks for giving us the chance to do this, it is really fun.  Even if disjointed.  I think we are all just trying to make the best of whatever we are left with and different styles of playing make for some interesting results.

Added: Looks like my idea to keep the Titans and golems too far away for Hydra backfired!  Ouch!

Move added after all:
!Chaos Hydras attack Titans and Naga Queens
Titans take 276 damage killing 1 and leaving top with 231 Health
NQ take 428 damage killing 4 and leaving 52 health on top
No Retailiation!



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Djive
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posted December 04, 2001 07:44 PM

Hmmm... Mighty Gorgons are next. I don't want them to take the retaliation so:

!Mighty Gorgons wait!

!Lizard Warriors are next!

The Naga Queens is within the 10-hex range so there will be no range penalty for that attack. I believe Iron Golems and Titans are both out of range. Hrmm that depends on where the Titans actually stand... but from Thunder's & Thunderknight's post I'm presuming they'll be out of range.
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Thunder
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posted December 05, 2001 01:20 PM

All Obsidian Gargoyles were killed.
So I decide that Thunderknight decided to attack Iron Golems instead. (Only because the Wyverns attack were not so good one in the first place]

Moving so that they are below the Chaos Hydras.

Wyvern Monarch do base damage of (23*13)299. A/D difference for Wyvern Monarchs is +10 (50%) and -22(-44%) for Iron Golems. Modified damage is (299*1.50)448, killing 13 (420+6) and damaging the third (13 Health).

Iron Golems didn`t got poisoned.

Iron Golems do base damage of (4.5*18)81.  Modified damage is (81*0.56*0.85)39, leaving the top one with 31 health.

Greater Basilisks does modified damage of (31*11*1.40 (A/D difference is +8) = 477 damage, killing 14 (455+13) and damaging the 15th (26 Health).


Iron Golems got Stoned (or Stone Stared) by the Greater Basilisks.

4 Iron Golems remaining (26 Health, Stoned)
13 Wyvern Monarchs remaining (31 Health)




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Tristan
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posted December 06, 2001 12:33 AM
Edited By: Tristan on 5 Dec 2001

!Lizard Warriors attack Naga Queens, doing 157(40*4(blessed)*.98 (A/D -1) damage, killing one, and leaving next with 5 hp!

!Now Gnolls turn!

7 Naga Queens left

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Djive
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posted December 06, 2001 09:31 AM
Edited By: Djive on 6 Dec 2001

The Blessed Lizard Warriors each do 6 damage (SoD rules), and you're also forgetting that the Chaos Hydra had attacked the NQs. Leaving it to Thunder to correct the numbers.

!Gnoll Marauders attack Titans!
(To take the retaliation instead of the Might Gorgons)

Gnoll Maraduers do 4 * 73 *0.72 (A/D difference is -14) = 210 damage. The top Titan now has 21 Health.

Titans do 50 * 6 * 1.05 (A/D difference is +1) * 0.85 = 268. Killing 44 Gnoll Marauder and leaving 45th with 2 Health. 29 Gnoll Marauders remain.

!It's now the turn of the Might Gorgons!

(Note: The MG's attack will do 58 damage, this has already been counted out above. This will kill top Titan, and then give a close to 40% chance to death stare a second. Since Titans' retaliation has been used it's now easy to post this reply and ask Thunder for a summary...))


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thunderknight
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posted December 06, 2001 11:20 AM

Quote:

(Note: The MG's attack will do 58 damage, this has already been counted out above. This will kill top Titan, and then give a close to 40% chance to death stare a second. Since Titans' retaliation has been used it's now easy to post this reply and ask Thunder for a summary...))



40% chance ???
I think it's 20% ! since there are less than 10 MG. Maybe I am wrong. Anyway, I am quite confused about the current situation and so I can't make a move.

Thunder, would you please make the summary for us ?
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Djive
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posted December 06, 2001 11:31 AM

"40% chance ???
I think it's 20% ! since there are less than 10 MG. Maybe I am wrong. Anyway, I am quite confused about the current situation and so I can't make a move."

Each MG has a 10% chance to death stare, but the stack of Gorgons cannot death stare more than 1 creature for every 10 Mighty Gorgons in the stack. This means that the chance to death stare a second Titan is 0. (The chance to death stare 1 Titan is the same as picking 4 random numbers between 0 and 11, and guessing correctly on one or more of them. This chance is a bit less than 40%)

I could just suggest the action of the MG's since I already moved and attacked with the Gnolls.

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Thunder
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posted December 06, 2001 02:48 PM

Lizard Warriors attacked Naga Queens, doing 235(40*6*0.98) (A/D -1) damage, killing 2(110+52=162) and damaging the third (Health 37).

2 Naga Queens remaining (Health 37).

Mighty Gorgons didn`t Death Stared, whomever they will attack.


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Tristan
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posted December 06, 2001 04:08 PM
Edited By: Tristan on 6 Dec 2001

!Mighty Gorgons attack Titans doing 58 damage killing one and leaving the next with 263 hp!

!Titans Retail used up!
5 Titans left
end of round


Hey, I never really thought I was all that good at this, but I am still trying  :grins at Djive:

I didn't think LW attack range was right, but I checked the site Thunder posted...didn't notice he mentioned the new attack range.  As to NQs left, yeah I goofed, but I had it right the first time (except for 4 damage instead of 6)  then went to double check and couldn't find the post some idiot wrote on the Chaos Hydra attack

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Thunder
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posted December 06, 2001 04:30 PM
Edited By: Thunder on 6 Dec 2001

End of Battleround Four........

Spells in Effect: Prayer (2 rounds left, on Fortress troops), Bless (4, Fortress).

Spell Points: Wizard 97, Beastmaster 46.

Creatures Movement Order
Dragon Flies: 17 (Prayer, Bless)
Wyvern Monarchs: 15 (P, B)
Titans: 11  
Greater Basilisk: 11 (P, B)
Chaos Hydra: 11 (P, B)
Mighty Gorgons: 10 (P, B)
Lizard Warriors: 9 (P, B)
Gnoll Marauders: 9 (P, B)
Naga Queens: 7
Iron Golems: 5 (Stoned)

Creatures Left on the Battle Field
Fortress
Dragon Flies: 34 (Att 19, Def 30, Prayer, Bless)
Wyvern Monarchs: 13 (Health 31, Att 27, Def 36, P, B)
Chaos Hydra: 6 (Health 204, Att 31, Def 42, P, B)
Greater Basilisk: 31 (Att 25, Def 34, P, B)
Mighty Gorgons: 4 (Health 66, Att 24, Def 38, P, B)
Lizard Warriors: 40 (Att 19, Def 30, P, B)
Gnoll Marauders: 29 (Health 2, Att 17 , Def 28, P, B)

Tower
Titans: 5 (Health 263, Att 29, Def 31)
Naga Queens: 2 (Health 37, Att 21, Def 20)
Iron Golems: 4 (Health 26, Att 14, Def 17, Stoned)



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Djive
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posted December 06, 2001 04:30 PM
Edited By: Djive on 6 Dec 2001

"I didn't think LW attack range was right, but I checked the site Thunder posted...didn't notice he mentioned the new attack range."

The values are in the first post in the thread. The site with the values which is referenced from the first post has the RoE values.

"As to NQs left, yeah I goofed, but I had it right the first time (except for 4 damage instead of 6)  then went to double check and couldn't find the post some idiot wrote on the Chaos Hydra attack "

You seem to have short memory...
It was you who wrote that post...

Edited:
Seems Thunder beat me for the sum-up so instead I'll post the first move in the round.

!Beastmaster casts slow on Titans!

Titans now have speed 8, and will act after each and every one of the Fortress creatures. If all Fortress creatures attack the Titans, there'll not be much left of them at the end of the round.

Tactics:
Do notice that attacks on the Naga Queens will be wasted since the Chaos Hydra multi-head attack will kill them when they attack they Titans anyway, and Chaos Hydra moves before any of the Tower troops. Essentially, the Naga Queens are already dead. The Iron Golems are stoned.

!It's still the turn of the Dragonflies!

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Tristan
Tristan


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posted December 06, 2001 04:59 PM

I will see if I can get this one right

!Dragon Flies attack Titans (doh!)
doing 155 damage (34*6* .76(A/D -12)) leaving Titan with 108 hp and weakness

Titans Retailiate doing 196 damage (5*50* .92(A/D -4)* .85(armorer)) killing 9 and leaving top with 4 hp!

25 DF health 4
5 Titans health 108 Attack now 26

!now Wyvern Monarchs turn!

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Thunder
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posted December 06, 2001 05:41 PM
Edited By: Thunder on 6 Dec 2001

Tristan didn`t said from which angle he attacked the Titans, so I predict he attacked from southwest.


!Beastmaster attacks the Titans with the Wyvern Monarchs!

(Attacking from northwest.)

Wyvern Monarchs do base damage of(23*13)299. A/D difference is -4 for the Wyverns. Modified damage is(299*0.92)275, killing 1 Titan(108) and damaging the second (Health 133)

Titans didn`t got poisoned.


4 Titans (Health 133)

!It is now turn of the Greater Basilisks!




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Djive
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posted December 06, 2001 05:49 PM
Edited By: Djive on 6 Dec 2001

!Beastmaster attacks the Titans with the Greater Basilisks!

(Attacking from west.)

Greater Basiliks do base 11 * 31 * 0.88 (A/D difference is -6) 300 damage. Kills 1 titan and leaves the next with health 133.

Titans didn't get stoned (Thunder checked this while I was writing the post.)

3 Titans (Health 133)

!It is now turn of the Chaos Hydra!

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Tristan
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posted December 07, 2001 05:13 PM

!Hydra attack Titans and Naga Queens killing both NQ and one Titan, leaving 2 Titans top health 157!

!now Mighty Gorgons turn!

Thunder, sorry about not mentioning angle of attack, but don't think it really matters much now


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Djive
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posted December 07, 2001 05:40 PM

!Mighty Gorgons attack Titans doing 58 points of damage (as before). Top Titan now has 99 Health!

Moderator to check for Death Stare.
Will leave either 2 Titans, the top one with 99 Health or 1 Titan with full Health.

!It's then the turn of the Lizard Warriors!
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