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Thread: The HRS [ This thread is 5 pages long: (1) 2 3 4 5 ]
Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 12, 2008 06:59 PM bonus applied by alcibiades on 24 Apr 2008.
Edited by arxur at 19:04, 12 Apr 2008.

The HRS

Welcome to The Heroes Reality Show! (HRS) Don't panic, this isn't really a reality show, but I had no better idea...

My brother and I had some free time today so we decided to find out which is the most-ultimate-super-hero in Heroes V in a tournament.

We downloaded an 8 player map and started this experiment with haven heroes. We used all 8 haven heroes (yes, the most weakest one's too) in this game and decided, that the 4 heroes that wins the first battle against an enemy hero will continue this tournament and will be able to fight with races.

So as I said, we started with the 8 haven hero: Rutger, Vittorio, Maeve, Ellaine, Laszlo, Dougal, Klaus and Irina. 2 player was placed in each island, so the one that defeats it's neighbour will win this round.

Let's see what happened:

1. Irina VS Klaus

The first fight started with Irina and Klaus.

Irina had a very bad start. She lost lot's of troops, but she managed to build up a strong army very quickly. I played as Irina and I wanted to teach her Summoning magic, but of course I couldn't. So she ended like this:



My brother wanted to teach Klaus the ultimate skill since it has useless abality, Cavalry commender. My brother thought that Klaus will proceed to the nextr round so he will be able to learn it, but this didn't happen...



This battle was very exciting. Because both heroes had high chances to win. We replayed this battle 4 times and the result was: 3 victories for Irina and 1 for Klaus... So we will meet only with Irina in the next round.

2. Rutger VS Vittorio

Rutger was very unlucky. Not only had he have to fight with Vittorio but every mine was guarded by shooters. So he couldn't developed and suffered high losses. And he also learnd summoning magic and enlightenment from witch huts...



Vittoria had a hard time too. Liches, Fanatics everywhere. Due to his good ballista and first aid tent ha managed to suffer minimal losses. So his victory was unambiguous.



As I said: Rutger didn't stand a chance. If you watch the replays you will see yourself. Rutger was very unlucky in this map. See you next time...

3. Ellaine VS Maeve

Not the most popular heroes I guess... Ellaine was doing very good. The extra incomes helped her a lot and those brute mans coused very high damage... My brother teach her destruction magic to see something interesting...



Maeve's special abiltiy sucks... It does not worth anything. I had to play with her VERY carefully. And she wasn't so bad after all...



...but this wasn't enough against those powerful peasants. ^^ Again, she lost because her special ability wasn't good enough.

4. Dougal VS Laszlo

The last fight. Dougal was very strong and didn't had any problems during the game. He had the easiest life I guess. Not to mention that 80 archer joined has army... ^^



Laszlo was very powerful too. I think he is underestimated by some players. So if you against him do not underestimate him. His key creature is slow, but not stupid... ^^



We played this battle twice. First time Dougal won, than Laszlo. Than we decided to let Laszlo participate in the next round because of the 80 plus archer, that joined Dougal's army.

If you want to see these exciting battles, tha download this file and watch them: replays.rar - 0.70MB

Why did I tell you about this game? I don't have any reasons, but maybe you are interested about the final outcome.
Feel free to leave any comment.

Next time:

The 8 inferno heroes!!!

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Drunk_Lord
Drunk_Lord


Known Hero
very happy hero :)
posted April 12, 2008 07:09 PM
Edited by Drunk_Lord at 19:10, 12 Apr 2008.

I don't agree about maeve. She has great speciality. At lvl 20 with a haste spell... such bonus to init is no joke mon
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Doomforge
Doomforge

Hero of Order
Mayhem Elemental
posted April 12, 2008 07:21 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 19:22, 12 Apr 2008.

Maeve is one of the best haven heroes..


btw pretty cool idea

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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 12, 2008 07:22 PM

I don't know...

Maybe I didn't like her because in the early game I couldn't do anything but to sit at home and wait for some more troops.
But that battle was very close too... She needed just a little more power...

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted April 12, 2008 07:35 PM

Interesting idea A few things though:
Irina with sorcery..? And no light. A few more other abilities seem redundant where other skills would be more preferable.

The explanation with Rutger seems better, witch huts. But why would you not bother visiting with a secondary first?

Destruction with Ellaine? Was wondering what else I'd see.

Maeve's specialty is one of the best around.

Finally what week did the battle take place? I have a feeling that the warmachine heroes may have had an edge in this battle.


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carcity
carcity


Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
posted April 12, 2008 07:47 PM
Edited by carcity at 20:04, 12 Apr 2008.

nice idea and everything but the battle between dougal and lazlo could be decided more fair. if you still got the save left then you can delete those 80 archers and replay the match.


just a suggestion. and i would also like to know wich week it was. hope you hurry with those infernos.

a virtual QP from me. (hope no moderators complain about that.)
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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 12, 2008 07:56 PM
Edited by arxur at 20:05, 12 Apr 2008.

Quote:
Interesting idea A few things though:
Irina with sorcery..? And no light. A few more other abilities seem redundant where other skills would be more preferable.


I played with Rutger, Laszlo, Meave and Irina. Since Laszlo had dark magic and Meave light, I wanter to try out some "exotic" tactics. However, no other was offered. But she still can learn light magic later on. And sorcery can always come in handy.

Quote:
The explanation with Rutger seems better, witch huts. But why would you not bother visiting with a secondary first?


We have one rule: we use only one secondary hero and he is allowed to bring ONLY troops for the main hero. He can't do anything else. And we made this rule to make more importance for the logistic skill and to twist up things a little whit witch huts.

We already know the winning formula for haven, so there is no fun if every hero has the same abilities.

Quote:

Finally what week did the battle take place? I have a feeling that the warmachine heroes may have had an edge in this battle.


During month 2 week 1. With all heroes.

Carcity:

We decided this way not only because of the 80+ archers. The first time I made a very big mistake with my hero but when we replayed it there remained no question about Laszlo's victory.

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Plague
Plague


Known Hero
Only Hell know my pain
posted April 12, 2008 08:06 PM
Edited by Plague at 20:09, 12 Apr 2008.

Comon dude,why dont u play with klaus and your brother with irina.U had a lot artifact,but even with those artefact cannot beat Klaus.At that lvl jousting bonus is to big to can be defetead.My opinion Klaus is the best hero of Heaven.(and best hero in the world,for those who i know)
And i have a beter idea.DOnt take items,and take a normal map,not to big,not to small,there can be see who is realy best.And learn the right skill to both heroes.
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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted April 12, 2008 08:19 PM

Not allowing secondaries to visit witch huts only makes the game more random.
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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 12, 2008 08:39 PM

Klaus didn't have enough crystals and wood, so he was not able to build it at the first place... >_< And without them no jousting bonus either.

And here comes a very important fact: LUCK! In this game you need a bit of luck to everything: to have more from those resources on the map that you need/ neutrals are only shooters or casters/ you are able to learn a good skill early / and so on...

Randomness plays a huge factor in this game and can mess up even the best strategy. (like Klaus or Rutger)

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Plague
Plague


Known Hero
Only Hell know my pain
posted April 12, 2008 08:47 PM

A big map and not enought crystal and wood?.Ok i have no this resource,but i have others,i can trade,i can have some paladins after all,i can find a way to victory,if i am good enought to do that.yes luck is important,but i think the important is the player strenght,how good enough is it.If i am weak,i can have all luck or badluck in the world,i can still lose.In all games and real life i never based on luck,i based on my own powers.Some1 said : you make your own luck.
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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 12, 2008 08:57 PM

Well I never said that: "Klaus lost, so he is vary a bad hero, never play with him again!!! "

I started this thing to have fun and thought I might share it with others. I'm not god to decide which is the best hero, I'm just playing my own way. Don't get so mad about it. It's just a game after all...

We all know that (almost)every hero has a chance to win.

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Plague
Plague


Known Hero
Only Hell know my pain
posted April 12, 2008 08:59 PM

Dont think i am mad i am a very happy person.I just said my opinon and i must admit i like to muck Klaus ability and i try to defend it) sounds crazy,dont it?
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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 12, 2008 09:13 PM

It's good that to you defend one of your favourite heroes. I just wanted to say that none of the heroes sucks.

And it only depended on us who won and who lost. So we know this is only our fault. Blame us not the heroes...

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Fauch
Fauch


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted April 13, 2008 01:36 PM

klaus had no paladins or champions...

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carcity
carcity


Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
posted April 13, 2008 07:58 PM

have you got any idea (or date) for when the inferno heroes come out?
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Cleave
Cleave


Promising
Famous Hero
Raging Blood
posted April 13, 2008 08:26 PM
Edited by Cleave at 20:27, 13 Apr 2008.

Quote:
have you got any idea (or date) for when the inferno heroes come out?


Yeah give us an update already!

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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 14, 2008 01:12 PM

Tomorrow.

Give us some time please, it takes very long to finish an 8 player game.   But don't worry, we will finish very soon.

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Cleave
Cleave


Promising
Famous Hero
Raging Blood
posted April 14, 2008 01:42 PM

Quote:
Tomorrow.

Give us some time please, it takes very long to finish an 8 player game.   But don't worry, we will finish very soon.


Good news! Hopefully you'll come up with some unorthodox tacks and builds for the Demonlords.

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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted April 14, 2008 03:28 PM

I'll try to do my best.

There is only 1 light magic demon lord so far...

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