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Asheera
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posted January 11, 2009 09:16 PM
Edited by Asheera at 21:16, 11 Jan 2009.

Nono, you misunderstood the question. By 'turn' I meant one 'action'. Sorry for the confusion.

For example, the shortest turn I'm talking about is one attack of a creature while the enemy does not retaliate. It's only one strike. A longer turn would be when the target also retaliates. It will be two strikes in the 'turn'. What is the longest though?

I hope it's clear now what I asked
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DagothGares
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posted January 11, 2009 09:18 PM
Edited by DagothGares at 21:19, 11 Jan 2009.

when two creatures with infinite retal attack eachother, like steel golem vs battle griffin.

EDIT: you more or less said it
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Buji
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posted January 11, 2009 09:19 PM
Edited by Buji at 21:23, 11 Jan 2009.

executioner attacks griffin with bloodrage lvl 3
3 attacks 3 retaliations

edit: when griffin has preperation -> 3 attacks 4 retaliations

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Asheera
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posted January 11, 2009 09:20 PM

@Dagoth: What? A retaliation doesn't trigger a retaliation, so it won't work

@Buji: Good start, but there are some more things.
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posted January 11, 2009 09:22 PM

If Runes are accepted: Thunder Thane with Rune of Berserk and Rune of Battle Rage and surrounded by enemies. Thunder Thanes can be surrounded by 12 stacks,  => 12 attacks, + hit 12 hits too All stacks (if they are adjescent to eachother, which I assume is the case) Max Potential of 144 hits if I'm not mistaken.

If not, I would say Foul Hydra with Acid blood hitting all surrounding enemies (12 max) + retaliation (retaliates on all enemies) => 12 + 12 = 14, which isn't bad either.
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Asheera
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posted January 11, 2009 09:26 PM
Edited by Asheera at 21:27, 11 Jan 2009.

@Lexxan: As I said runes are not available since they're considered spells so they're out (spells are not allowed) Also hitting multiple stacks (like the Hydra) is still considered only one action, it doesn't lengthen the 'duration' of the turn, and I asked what's the longest possible.

@Buji: I've seen your edit, yes that's also on the right path. Two more things though
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Buji
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posted January 11, 2009 09:27 PM
Edited by Buji at 21:31, 11 Jan 2009.

good point lexxan

executioner attacks foul hydra
3 attacks 3x12 targets hit through acid blood 1 retaliation = 40 hits

edit: ah ok thats not allowed
edit2: powerful blow with the executioner
edit3: crap,... forgot that, powerful blow is a spell

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Asheera
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posted January 11, 2009 09:32 PM

Quote:
edit3: crap,... forgot that, powerful blow is a spell
No, it's an ability. It is allowed, but that's not the answer, something else similar provides much more actions.

I guess it's almost solved now, should be easy.
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Buji
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posted January 11, 2009 09:34 PM
Edited by Buji at 21:37, 11 Jan 2009.

retaliation strike with the griffin
i mean the knights ability

to make it clear: 3 executioner hits plus 3 powerful blows
4 griffin retaliations plus 4 retaliation strikes = 14 hits, right?

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Asheera
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posted January 11, 2009 09:46 PM
Edited by Asheera at 21:46, 11 Jan 2009.

Well it's very close so I'll give out the answer.

1) Retaliation Strike doesn't work like that. It works only once after all the attacks have been made.

2) Same for Powerful Blow. Works only once, not for all executioner's actions.

3) Mark of the Damned is the only one that works for all attacks.

Therefore, the longest turn is an executioner with level 3 rage attacking a Griffin which defended. The griffin is controlled by a Knight which has Preparation and used Retaliation Strike on the griffin, and the executioner is controlled by a Demon Lord which used Mark of the Damned on the Griffin.

4 griffin attacks + 4 demon lords strikes + 3 executioner attacks + 1 knight strike = 12 hits
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Warmonger
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posted January 11, 2009 09:48 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 21:50, 11 Jan 2009.

How about adding four Grim Riders for the lizard bite?
I'd also add Barbarian's blow at one side and Knight's retaliation on the other.

EDIT: Meh, too late

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Buji
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posted January 11, 2009 09:49 PM

executioner cant get rage lvl when controlled by a demon lord i thought

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Asheera
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posted January 11, 2009 09:53 PM
Edited by Asheera at 21:56, 11 Jan 2009.

lol sorry you're right

I guess it's only 3 (griffin) + 2 (executioner) + 3 (demon lord) + 1 (knight) = 9 strikes then?

EDIT: or (with Barbarian and Powerful Blow) 4 (griffin) + 3 (executioner) + 1 (barbarian) + 1 (knight) = still 9.
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Buji
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posted January 11, 2009 10:00 PM

looks correct

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posted January 11, 2009 10:47 PM

Is this active again? cool. I've just read through it all and I have realised one thing. I'm becoming dumber. most things I have anwsered in this thread would be impossible for me today to anwser. or maybe I'm just to tired to think now. anyway expect me to be more active in temple now because of this.
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Asheera
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posted January 12, 2009 01:19 AM

New one:

What's the max amount of mana possible used in one turn without Rain of Arrows?
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posted January 12, 2009 01:21 AM

Blocking an empowered implosion under week of ether with counterspell? I'm too lazy to calculate
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Asheera
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posted January 12, 2009 01:24 AM

Hmm, didn't think of Counterspell. I was more thinking of MotW + Puppet Master + Seal of Darkness + Week of Ether which is basically the same as what you said (144 mana)

But how does Counterspell work in such a situation (MotW)? Does it block both spells with 288 mana usage?
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posted January 12, 2009 01:27 AM

Ah forgot seal of darkness. I don't think counterspell can block both but haven't tried.
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DagothGares
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posted January 12, 2009 01:28 AM

288 mana usage...

Scary part is that academy might actually pull that off...
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