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Buji
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posted January 12, 2009 01:36 AM |
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you can use a lot more mana with creature transfer, or did you mean in one combat turn?
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Asheera
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posted January 12, 2009 01:39 AM |
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Yes I meant one combat hero's action, excluding Rain of Arrows which can hit even 20 enemy stacks if they're all the same type as in your favorite list 
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tann_141
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posted January 12, 2009 04:16 AM |
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speaking of puppet master... if you have high enough spellpower the spell will actually reduce the enemy initiative by a negative percentage
i had that with my 50 spellpower arantir .. but after using it... initiative didn't increase.. i think it's capped at 0% reduction (so initiative stays the same).. with 50 spellpower arantir it said reduces initiative by -47%.. so i guess that is doable with motw and around 25 spellpower 
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blizzardboy
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posted January 12, 2009 04:22 AM |
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But how does Counterspell work in such a situation (MotW)? Does it block both spells with 288 mana usage? 
Yes, counterspell will block them both. It's a nasty tactic Inferno can afford to do against wizard to neutralize the hero big time. In the long fights it can really involve a lot of corpse consumption (preferably on enemy stacks to prevent consume artifact)
The wizard player has other issues if they are using MotW with puppetmaster though 1 is the limiit.
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Buji
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posted January 12, 2009 09:59 AM |
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Edited by Buji at 09:59, 12 Jan 2009.
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so 288 mana usage in one turn should be the max.
Does anyone mind if i ask the next question?
i don't think so
so here we go:
what is the highest damage a warlock (30 Spellpower with arties included) can do with one single (empowered) implosion?
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homm3megejas
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posted January 12, 2009 01:03 PM |
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Well, expert implosion do about 40*(1+pow) damage. Runic set add +3 pow., skull of markal +5 pow., dragon eye rings +3 pow. Total 41 pow. will do about 40*42=1680 base damage, who can be boosted by: emerald slipper, week of earth, empowered spells - all +50% dam., warlock's luck - dam.*2. Also if target has air element, irresistible magic will add +40%(ultimate)*2(rage of the elements)*2(runic set) el.dam. So total dam. can be around: 1680*1,5^3*2*(1+0,4*2*2)=29484 dam.
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Asheera
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posted January 12, 2009 02:36 PM |
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what is the highest damage a warlock (30 Spellpower with arties included) can do with one single (empowered) implosion?
The Warlock has 30 Spellpower with the artifacts? That is, we don't add any more to that value?
Then it is 40*31 * 1.5 (Emp. Spells) * 1.5 (Week of Earth) * 1.5 (Slippers) * 2 (lucky shot) = 8370
Now let's add Elemental Chains (if the target has Air Element)
The bonus is 40% (ultimate racial) + 80% (eight altar of primal elements in eight towns) = 120%. Now add the ultimate ability (*2) and runic set (*2) which gives a bonus of 480%.
8370 * 5.8 = 48546 
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Buji
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posted January 12, 2009 05:10 PM |
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Edited by Buji at 17:15, 12 Jan 2009.
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one more multiplier asheera 
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veco
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posted January 12, 2009 05:24 PM |
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You cast it on Goblin Witchdoctor, Defile Magic fails = damage x2
48546 * 2 = 97092
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Buji
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posted January 12, 2009 05:37 PM |
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Edited by Buji at 17:44, 12 Jan 2009.
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ah, forgot about that one...
there is still another
edit: i thought about elemental overkil (or is it called exorcism, dunno)
but defile magic and elemental overkill don't work together (phantom forced creatures can't use abilities blah blah) so this should be the highest amount of damage
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ebbafan
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posted January 12, 2009 06:03 PM |
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you can cast that on elemental gargoyles for extra 50% damage;
however, the absolute ability(rage of the elements) does not chain with the runeforce artifact set
edit: actually i'm not sure whether elemental gargoyles take extra damage from earth spells, so i take that back. 
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Buji
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posted January 12, 2009 06:15 PM |
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you can cast that on elemental gargoyles for extra 50% damage;
only fire, water, air spells are affected by gargs aura afaik
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ebbafan
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posted January 12, 2009 06:17 PM |
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a question for all:
your creature attacks a set of creatures and gets whacked by the demon lord more than 10 times in one turn! (Not counting retaliation strikes)
please explain how this happened, and what the maximum number of demon lord strikes can be!
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Carcity
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posted January 12, 2009 06:18 PM |
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you can cast that on elemental gargoyles for extra 50% damage;
however, the absolute ability(rage of the elements) does not chain with the runeforce artifact set
edit: actually i'm not sure whether elemental gargoyles take extra damage from earth spells, so i take that back.
it doesn't. they are vulnerable to ice, lightning and fire.
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Buji
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posted January 12, 2009 06:45 PM |
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rune of battlerage?
would be max 12 hits for the demonlords
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e= enemy
y= your (large) creature
creatures strikes all 12 targets
demonlord hits creature 12 times
but i dont know if that works
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ebbafan
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posted January 12, 2009 06:51 PM |
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nope, not rune of battlerage!
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted January 12, 2009 08:00 PM |
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but i dont know if that works
Yes it works But apparently that's not the answer.
Probably Brisk Raider's ability? Does it trigger Demon Lord's MotD?
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ebbafan
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posted January 12, 2009 08:36 PM |
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you're on the right track conceptually asheera!
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Blizzardboy
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posted January 12, 2009 08:52 PM |
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I'm pretty sure the Battle Griffins dive will make them get wacked by the demon lord for each creature they hit. So would that be the case here?
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ebbafan
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posted January 12, 2009 09:00 PM |
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very good blizzardboy! so now, how many hits?
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