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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: Heroes of Might & Magic III: Horn of the Abyss
Thread: Heroes of Might & Magic III: Horn of the Abyss [ This thread is 99 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (17) 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 ]
Cepheus
Cepheus


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Far-flung Keeper
posted January 24, 2012 01:22 PM

Despite its more explicit name, I've always viewed this as being a nebulous Heroes III modding forum, whereas the Library comes across as a more puristic shrine to the main, unaltered game. I'm not convinced that Library-only posters would be as welcoming of or interested in HotA, especially since it will supposedly support WoG's mechanics in the future (be it in two months or two decades).

Furthermore, I don't really mind if there are hate messages about the concepts behind WoG or HotA, as long as they stay respectful to other posters and the developers' hard work. I happen to agree with Darko on his aesthetics point for instance - I love WoG, but have never much liked the objects it uses which were ripped from other games without permission.
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Pellish
Pellish


Adventuring Hero
posted January 24, 2012 01:54 PM

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No need to hate or separate anything, just play what you want. Currently H3 mods have well enough to offer.


Truest post here.
See someone who hates what you like? Completely ignore him, after all it's his decision.

On topic: As I was lurking through df2, I found something interesting. Is it just me or the HOTA team tries to add a new landfield for Conflux?

I saw that too. My knowledge of russian is not advanced enough though, so I couldn't figure out exactly what the thread was about. Maybe someone who speaks fluent russian can tell us?

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Aleee
Aleee


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posted January 25, 2012 05:06 AM

We all know the history of Conflux. It's evident that this town lacks many features, not to mention the fact that it's completely unbalanced.
Among those things that Conflux has never had is "its own" terrain (as snow, dirt or grass which is btw used as a "native" one for Conflux).

A new terrain was suggested specially for Conflux. There are 8 pages of discussion and no official concept. Mostly because the discussion is still ongoing. This is a good idea but nothing is yet decided: name, color, palette, texture. You can use google translator which usually allows you to catch the meaning, after that you can join the discussion here, I'm sure Docent Picolan and others review this topic from time to time, though rarely post anything.

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Darko
Darko

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posted January 25, 2012 09:46 AM

Yeah, It was about time for the towns to start evolving. Conflux is definitively an unfinished story, as all of the Heroes is. It is always an unfinished story, and should always continue evolving. The HoA team is doing it just the right way. It's all about doing it professionally both from the aesthetics side, both from the programing side. Slava did a great job breaking the ice, and did a remarkable job on the programing side, but definitively lacked someone like Alexander to fill in. I really like what he is doing both with the new units, both remodeling the old ones (fantastic). For ex. the orcs are finally looking how they should have from the beginning, also - the pikemen are more realistic this time, not looking as 15-year old boy models with anorexia If progress continues this way, and people stop dividing in clans, then there is really a bright future for Heroes, and we should all keep an open mind for innovations, but incremental, not radical!




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PilotBabo
PilotBabo

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posted January 25, 2012 11:43 AM

I can't see cyrilic, just some ?!!_+?@_+ and stuff, what should i do?
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Darko
Darko

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posted January 25, 2012 11:54 AM
Edited by Darko at 11:58, 25 Jan 2012.

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I can't see cyrilic, just some ?!!_+?@_+ and stuff, what should i do?


If you're using Mozilla, just go to -> Tools/Options/Content and try adding language options or Character encoding under Content/Fonts/Advanced


If you where meaning the game (HoA), you must wait for the translation (or install Heroes in Russian)

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Salamandre
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posted January 25, 2012 06:02 PM

Comparing HotA to WoG is wrong way. They are different. HotA adds nice graphics and a new town, WoG cares about new modding ways and it achieved pretty well its task. Thus I don't think Slava missed this or that, he had the team he needed and he reached his goal.

If one can say Wog graphics are not perfect, why not say also that HotA is played using the same old way, same editor flaws, same game flaws, same flawed balance between magic and might, same bugs and same uber spells which can always win a battle. I know it wasn't their goal, so I will not complain about.
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Darko
Darko

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posted January 25, 2012 06:19 PM

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Comparing HotA to WoG is wrong way. They are different. HotA adds nice graphics and a new town, WoG cares about new modding ways and it achieved pretty well its task. Thus I don't think Slava missed this or that, he had the team he needed and he reached his goal.

If one can say Wog graphics are not perfect, why not say also that HotA is played using the same old way, same editor flaws, same game flaws, same flawed balance between magic and might, same bugs and same uber spells which can always win a battle. I know it wasn't their goal, so I will not complain about.


I totally agree, that is why they should merge together, so that everyone has a piece of the cake. This counts only if the best of the two would be taken, the design phylosophy of HotA, and a platform that would enable endless possibilities, either WoG, either VCMI, either something third, just that it gives a concrete and bug free whole.

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Soveliss
Soveliss


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posted January 25, 2012 06:35 PM
Edited by Soveliss at 18:38, 25 Jan 2012.

We are currently starting to miss the whole point of this topic... Love it or hate it WoG is what it was meant to be. Let us focus more on HotA rather on differences between two different things. What do we want to see next in HotA? What other things shall make the "oficcial expansion" idea more complete? I personaly find Cathedral would make a most anticipated addition! A little more of the Wh40k bipolarism and gruesomeness is always nice!! ;-)

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Alustor
Alustor


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ooo da :)
posted January 25, 2012 07:19 PM

if all goes the way it was planned(a long time ago thou)the Kronverk town should be included next(wich has some UBER graphics postes on h3towns site)but cathedral is also among my favourites

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user_00
user_00

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Shall we begin?
posted January 25, 2012 10:26 PM

I really don't know why there is disccusion between WoG and HotA.
This version of HotA is based on SOD..so its like a new add on(new town..creatures,etc),ok, story end.
In the future,newer versions will be based on WoG.So you will have to install WoG.
And I don't see the problem here..If you don't like the WoG(add on..tool..call it however you like it),like I don't (it a mather of taste,can't discuss this.It's like saying action movies are better than comedy..it is a mather of taste I say it again) then after installing the WoG...turn of all options(imagine...you can really do that) and you still have a "plain SoD" with newer versions of HotA to play.
So the only difference will be that you will have to lose 5 min to install WoG..everything else stays the same..if you know what i mean.

And I want to thank the HotA team for their great job...thank you guys for "resurrecting" this great game!


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Darko
Darko

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posted January 26, 2012 07:44 AM
Edited by Darko at 07:46, 26 Jan 2012.

In case someone hasn't seen these already, some fantastic screenshots... link

@Salamandre, do you think they will be able to achieve a stable game with all these additions (in the end),with just using ERA/WoG's scripts or will it eventually require to transfer the whole thing to a completely new platform? (eventually)

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PilotBabo
PilotBabo

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posted January 26, 2012 08:49 AM

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I can't see cyrilic, just some ?!!_+?@_+ and stuff, what should i do?


If you're using Mozilla, just go to -> Tools/Options/Content and try adding language options or Character encoding under Content/Fonts/Advanced


If you where meaning the game (HoA), you must wait for the translation (or install Heroes in Russian)


I'm talking about ingame, russian is ok because im from Srbija, i understand it, a bit. In new town i cant see names of creatures, buildings... what should i do to solve that problem?
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Bersy
Bersy


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Supreme Hero
posted January 26, 2012 08:57 AM

The answer is: download and install russian fonts by unpacking the following archive to game folder:
http://wikisend.com/download/546204/RussianFonts.rar

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Darko
Darko

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posted January 26, 2012 08:58 AM
Edited by Darko at 09:06, 26 Jan 2012.

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I can't see cyrilic, just some ?!!_+?@_+ and stuff, what should i do?


If you're using Mozilla, just go to -> Tools/Options/Content and try adding language options or Character encoding under Content/Fonts/Advanced


If you where meaning the game (HoA), you must wait for the translation (or install Heroes in Russian)


I'm talking about ingame, russian is ok because im from Srbija, i understand it, a bit. In new town i cant see names of creatures, buildings... what should i do to solve that problem?

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mikkelgro
mikkelgro


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posted January 26, 2012 03:11 PM

Missed the HotA download

Sorry for a rather silly request, but I seem to have been too slow with downloading the current HotA release from the posted link. The .exe file is no longer there. Is there an alternative link for it I can use? Or is the installer file no longer available?
I'm aware of the fact that it's only in Russian for now, but I wish to check it out none the less.

Thanks a heap! Cheers.

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Cepheus
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posted January 26, 2012 03:47 PM

Whoops, forgot it was on Megaupload! No problem, I'll revive the download link ASAP.
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PilotBabo
PilotBabo

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posted January 26, 2012 03:53 PM

Thank you 2, works great!!

Here is link for download:
http://www.mediafire.com/?06uxa4ihder6jdl
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mikkelgro
mikkelgro


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posted January 27, 2012 03:15 AM

Thanks a lot Cepheus and PilotBabo for the link! That was quick.

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Thank you 2, works great!!

Here is link for download:
http://www.mediafire.com/?06uxa4ihder6jdl

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WanderingHero
WanderingHero

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posted January 27, 2012 10:15 AM

Hi PilotBabo,
seems to do the only russian-reader here i saw

when you have time could you plz post here the creature abilities of Cove Town? I've played it but cannot manage to understand it, i cannot definitely judge this race, it seems kinda of weak to me but i'm waiting to see the new creature abilities to know more

i think there's lots of people in the same situation here

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