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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: Heroes of Might & Magic III: Horn of the Abyss
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OxFEA
OxFEA


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feanor on DF2.ru
posted June 23, 2012 12:43 PM

Haspid. Nix. Ayssid.

And nothing another.

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gapa
gapa

Tavern Dweller
posted June 23, 2012 03:39 PM

For me id doesn't matter whath's the name, Nix or else, just let the 1.1 realese, and about other versions (2.0, 3.0 and so on) i think they won't come out so fast... since the project is from 2008.

BTW. does there is avaliable version without movies?? (maybe faster relese)
//sry for my bad english
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Hobbit
Hobbit


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posted June 23, 2012 03:43 PM
Edited by Hobbit at 15:46, 23 Jun 2012.

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Perhaps it can be translated into Kraken.

No.

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Haspid. Nix. Ayssid.

And nothing another.

Nix - ok. Haspid and Assida - I think they actually could be changed for like, e.g., Sea Monster and Zephyr.

Quote:
BTW. does there is avaliable version without movies?? (maybe faster relese)

There is a decision about it. Probably there won't be such a version.
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gapa
gapa

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posted June 23, 2012 03:52 PM



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There is a decision about it. Probably there won't be such a version.


i just asked, but i agree with you. If I would give so much work, in doing so F#$% good addon. I would like to polish it to 100% before release
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SquigPie
SquigPie


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posted June 23, 2012 03:54 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Perhaps it can be translated into Kraken.

No.


Not all translations have to be direct.

Sometimes, if there's a better sounding alternative, you should take that instead.

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Hobbit
Hobbit


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posted June 24, 2012 08:32 AM
Edited by Hobbit at 08:34, 24 Jun 2012.

A translation has to have the meaning of an original text. The kraken is commonly associated with a giant squid - not a crocodilish humanoid. It's like if you want to name Gargantuan from HIV, e.g., a Ziz. It just can't work out.
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Karen
Karen


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posted June 24, 2012 08:59 AM

Quote:
A translation has to have the meaning of an original text.


Why did we translate a bull-like creature into the Gorgon?

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DariusArgent
DariusArgent


Adventuring Hero
posted June 24, 2012 09:09 AM

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Quote:
A translation has to have the meaning of an original text.


Why did we translate a bull-like creature into the Gorgon?



Thing is that the Gorgon in Heroes is the Dungeons and Dragons equivalent, not the original one.
You have to ask Gary Gygax for that. He is dead though.

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SquigPie
SquigPie


Adventuring Hero
posted June 24, 2012 09:29 AM

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A translation has to have the meaning of an original text. The kraken is commonly associated with a giant squid - not a crocodilish humanoid. It's like if you want to name Gargantuan from HIV, e.g., a Ziz. It just can't work out.


Then why not name it Leviathan?

Sounds cool, fits the describtion. Besides, this is an original universe, do we have to Mythology Nazi?

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Hobbit
Hobbit


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posted June 24, 2012 10:22 AM

It's not about mythology, it's about what does people think about when they hear "kraken" or "leviathan". A gorgon is not so common name, so it could be used as a name of a bull and no one actually have complained. Leviathan is actually a very popular word - almost everyone would think about a big water monster similar to snake instead of a crocodile man.

(maybe my example with gargantuan and ziz wasn't very good)
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SquigPie
SquigPie


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posted June 24, 2012 10:23 AM

Oh, well, I where refering to the Tier 7 unit, not the Nix. Tier 7 Upgraded could easily be named Leviathan.


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OxFEA
OxFEA


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feanor on DF2.ru
posted June 24, 2012 11:55 AM

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Then why not name it Leviathan?

Only because it will cause difference between Russian and English names.

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SquigPie
SquigPie


Adventuring Hero
posted June 24, 2012 12:43 PM

Would that be such a big problem?

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OxFEA
OxFEA


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feanor on DF2.ru
posted June 24, 2012 12:50 PM

Yes.

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SquigPie
SquigPie


Adventuring Hero
posted June 24, 2012 12:51 PM

Awww

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Hobbit
Hobbit


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posted June 24, 2012 02:22 PM

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Only because it will cause difference between Russian and English names.

Let me get this straight:
Russian names should be appropiate for Russian. English names should be appropiate for English.

Therefore, slight changes in translation should be always welcomed as far as they sound good for PLAYERS. Especially if you say we have to play with Ostriches and Vipers.
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DariusArgent
DariusArgent


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posted June 24, 2012 03:12 PM
Edited by DariusArgent at 15:17, 24 Jun 2012.

I kinda agree with Hobbit.

OxFEA, no offense but I find it kinda unfair for the Russian team to decide how the units will be called in English. Maybe you should let that to the English (or should I say international?) fans to decide. (Of course if the translation makes sense, like Hobbit's suggestion to rename the Ayssid (???) to Zephyr)

Not to mention that the Russian translation of the original units is not exact and direct. Dwarves are called Gnomes and Halflings are called Hobbits in Russian version of Heroes 3 AFAIK.

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revolut1oN
revolut1oN


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posted June 24, 2012 03:17 PM

I guess the names are the least important task now.

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DariusArgent
DariusArgent


Adventuring Hero
posted June 24, 2012 03:19 PM

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I guess the names are the least important task now.

True in every sense, but I'm just giving a suggestion. I guess it won't hurt anyone.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 24, 2012 09:17 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 22:28, 24 Jun 2012.

Russians have excellent english speakers, Aleee, Xel and others. Although the names do not seems to me important, regardless the complexity of what they achieved, it should be very easy to release a text file outside the lods where every fan can change the names to please himself. Also it is their mod, thus it looks weird to argue about fair or unfair.

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