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stuntman3
stuntman3

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posted August 06, 2012 04:17 PM
Edited by stuntman3 at 16:20, 06 Aug 2012.

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Can someone please tell me when im gonna be able to make random maps on Heroes HotA, because i've played all of them.


You will be able to make maps as soon as possible. I'm still working at the map editor. The estimated release is January 2014. :-)

//Yogdush - New to HotA team
But, this is not what i mean.
I mean about the random map generator that creats one for you.

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solitaire345
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posted August 06, 2012 07:11 PM
Edited by solitaire345 at 14:02, 07 Aug 2012.

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I apologize that you can't read current changelog in English, but I'm not the one, who can translate it.


I translated first part of the changelog. My own notes where I did not understand something are in red color. I'll translate changelog 1.0 -> 1.1 later.



All new features are not available in map editor and random map generator, however, objects such as "random monster", "Random Hero", "Random Town", etc. will work correctly and generate new creatures/heroes/towns when needed.

I. New town type: "Cove".

II. Creatures.
 1. New creatures of the Cove town, their dwellings, weeks and months of creatures.
 2. Added month of sprite.
 3. New graphics of pikeman, halberdier, dendroid-Soldier, Orc, Orc Chieftain.
 4. Added "No melee penalty" to Orcs and Orc Chieftains.
 5. Increased health of Imps and Familiars by 1.
 6. Psychic and Magic Elementals cost more and have their speed reduced by 2.
 7. Increased cost of Fire Bird and Phoenix and reduced their growth to 1.

III. New heroes for the cove faction. Class names: Captain and Navigator.

IV. The new war machine capable of firing both units, and fortifications.

V. New abilities.
A. Abilities of creatures.
1) Accurate Shot (Sea Wolves) - a chance to kill a few extra creatures after the shot. (Like gorgon's death stare)
2) Bloodthirst (Ayssid) - if the attack killed at least one enemy creature the Ayssid attacks second time.
3) Cast after shot (Sea priestess and sorceress can cast weakness or disrupting ray).
4) Ignore part of attack skill of attackers (Nix (30%), Nix Warriors (60%)).
5) Revenge (Haspid) - If Aspid receives damage, it's damage is recalculated by the following formula:


B. Specialized characters.
1) Scouting (Miriam) - +3 scouting range.
2) Clone (Eovatius) - the first Clone spell in battle costs double mana, and creates three copies. (Picture)
3) Forgetfulness (Zilar) - Double duration of forgetfulness.
4) Sea Dogs (Bidley) - Upgrades Pirates and Corsairs to Sea Dogs

VI. Additional upgrade of unit: pirate -> corsair -> Sea Dog.

VII. Boats.
 1. Each type of shipyard in town builds its own type of boat.
 2. New types of boats for Conflux, Cove and adventure-map shipyards.

VIII. New objects on adventure map.
 1. Dwellings of Cove creatures.
 2. New creature banks.
 3. Fixed some of standard objects.
 4. New objects with functionality of original ones (water teleporters, water garrisons, etc.)
 5. New decorative objects.

IX. Interface updates.
1. You can now run multiple instances of the game.
2. Sounds are played in separate thread without halting gameplay.
3. Fixes to battle interface.
 1) Added standing animation for all creatures.
 2) Fixed glitches with delaying animations, redrawing, repainting, clear overlay image in the battle.
 3) Increased speed of battle (depending on animation settings).
 4) Ability to skip pre-battle sound.
 5) Missile of Gogs, enchanters, storm/ice elementals explodes after hitting.
 6) Special death animation (section 6) is played if creature died from spell.
 7) Replaced the implosion animation.
4. Numerous glitches in Town screens, especially Conflux's.

X. New backgrounds in the interface.

XI. Campaigns, and maps.
 1. Campaign-prologue "Under the Jolly Roger."
 2. The campaign "Storm of the Seas."
 3. Maps for single and multiplayer games.

XII. Fixes of SoD bugs (version 3.2).
 1. Fixed crash realated to rumor generation when loading map.
 2. Added exit of infinite loop when AI's army is too big.
 3. Removed the need for AB files to use conflux.
 4. Fixed infinite ammo of war machines.
 5. Fixed probabilities of faerie dragon's spells.
 6. Fixed bug when movement penalty was not applied if hero had neutral creatures.
 7. Fixed incorrect calculation of arrow tower damage.
 8. Fixed the sound of Rogues.
 9. Fixed descriptions of guardians of creature banks and mines.
 10. Fixed cloning of 2-hex creatures.
 11. Fixed crash when magical obstacle (Force field or fire wall) is removed with "Remove obstacle" spell.
 12. Fixed display of the stack attack bonuses.
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posted August 06, 2012 07:42 PM

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Can someone please tell me when im gonna be able to make random maps on Heroes HotA, because i've played all of them.


You will be able to make maps as soon as possible. I'm still working at the map editor. The estimated release is January 2014. :-)

//Yogdush - New to HotA team
But, this is not what i mean.
I mean about the random map generator that creats one for you.


I was kidding.
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OxFEA
OxFEA


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feanor on DF2.ru
posted August 06, 2012 07:48 PM

Official translations:

Nymph / Oceanid
Crew Mate / Seaman
Pirate / Corsair / Sea Dog
Stormbird / Ayssid
Sea Witch / Sorceress
Nix / Nix Warrior
Sea Serpent / Haspid

Captain
Navigator

Bidley
Corkes
Jeremy
Illor
Kasmetra
Derek
Leena
Tark
Eovacius (or Eovatius)
Spint
Andal
Manfred
Zilar
Astra
Anabel
Dargem
Cassiopeia
Miriam

Nymph's Waterfall
Shack
Frigate
Nest
Tower of Sorcery
Fort of Nixes
Whirlpool

Pub
Gunpowder Warehouse
Thief's Guild
Grotto
Roost


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5) Animation exploding shell of some creatures. Sorry, could not understand this one..


Gogs, enchanters, storm/ice elementals missile explodes after hitting.

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Sav
Sav


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posted August 06, 2012 08:12 PM
Edited by Sav at 20:13, 06 Aug 2012.

Thank you very much, solitaire345!

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2. Added month of Pixie (or was that name used for sprite?) .

Sprite, upgraded one.

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5) Revenge (Aspid) - If Aspid receives damage, it's damage is increased by some amount.. (At least that's how I understand it. Not sure exact percentage.)

Final damage formula is base_damage*revenge_modificator.
revenge_modificator = sqrt((summary_health_at_battle_start)/(summary_health_now) - 1).

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6. Fixed "Bringing the neutrals" bug (What is this bug?)

If you have neutral creatures in first slots of your army and, for example, tower creatures in other slots, you can move through the snow as fast, as hero with tower creatures only.

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9. Fixed descriptions of creatures and mines.

Descriptions of guardians of creature banks and mines.

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solitaire345
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posted August 07, 2012 05:57 AM

Updated my previous post with what Sav and 0xFEA wrote, plus fixed some minor gramatical mistakes. Translating 1.0 -> 1.1 log now.
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angelito
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posted August 07, 2012 08:55 AM

Last 2 pages cleaned.

Guys, please try to focus on the thread and its topic instead of personal quarrels.

Use the feedback thread for complaining instead of ruining a thread with debates.

Any further off topic discussions, especially things which turns into personal insults will be punished in future!
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stuntman3
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posted August 07, 2012 10:48 AM
Edited by stuntman3 at 10:50, 07 Aug 2012.

When are the 2nd campaign videos gonna be ready?

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SquigPie
SquigPie


Adventuring Hero
posted August 07, 2012 10:49 AM

Aren't they done? Thought they said they'd wait for them to get finished before releasing 1.1.

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stuntman3
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posted August 07, 2012 10:52 AM
Edited by stuntman3 at 10:57, 07 Aug 2012.

Well, the 1st and 2nd campaign are ready, but only the first videos. Strange thing is that we all know the names of the monsters but they are still not translated.

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Pellish
Pellish


Adventuring Hero
posted August 07, 2012 11:09 AM

What is the next step? HotA 1.1 English version and then 1.2? Or are you planning to move onto 2.0 with Forge after the release of the English version?

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stuntman3
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posted August 07, 2012 11:16 AM
Edited by stuntman3 at 11:19, 07 Aug 2012.

100% translation might be availabe at 1.2 or 1.3 but im not sure actually when. I just want the random map generator to be ready as soon as possible. And im pretty sure at 2.0, Kronverk town will be availabe. And HotA 1.1 is already released.

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Pellish
Pellish


Adventuring Hero
posted August 07, 2012 11:20 AM

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100% translation might be availabe at 1.2 or 1.3 but im not sure actually when. I just want the random map generator to be ready as soon as possible. And im pretty sure at 2.0, Kronverk town will be availabe.

You don't seem to be a very reliable source as it is very well known that the next installment of HotA (2.0) will introduce Forge and a new campaign to it. This has been said by the HotA team itself.

It has also been said that the English version is to be released sometime this autumn. What is not known however is that if the english version will be a translated version of 1.1 or if it will be 1.2 or something else.

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Pellish
Pellish


Adventuring Hero
posted August 07, 2012 11:23 AM

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100% translation might be availabe at 1.2 or 1.3 but im not sure actually when. I just want the random map generator to be ready as soon as possible. And im pretty sure at 2.0, Kronverk town will be availabe. And HotA 1.1 is already released.


I am also aware of the fact that HotA 1.1 is released. I never said it wasn't. I asked if 1.1 ENGLISH VERSION was the next step.

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solitaire345
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posted August 07, 2012 11:28 AM
Edited by solitaire345 at 14:02, 07 Aug 2012.

Translated 1.0 -> 1.1 changelog.


[-] - Bugfix.
[+] - New feature.

[-] Fixed crashes that happened with certain artifacts and Cannon equipped.
[-] The Cannon no longer disappears when Hero meeting window is closed with it "picked up".
[-] Attack of cannon is reduced to 20.
[-] Number of cannon's shots reduced to 8.
[-] All cannon improvements now depend only on Artillery skill.
[-] Cannon can no longer shoot twice
[-] Updated description of Artillery skill
[-] Fixed double damage of Cannon in battle against Sea Dogs.
[-] Fixed animation when cannon shoots town fortifications
[+] Missile of Pirates, Corsairs, Sea Dogs and Cannons moves 1.5 times faster.
[+] Fixed original SoD bug. War machines could shoot endlessly. Also fixed endless shots at siege walls.
[-] Min Damage of Sea sorceress reduced to 10
[-] Reduced starting amounts of Sea Dogs on the adventure map.
[-] Fixed bug with displaying primary skills bonuses in campaign scenarios.
[-] Fixed crashes related to Wall of Knowledge.
[-] Added info message for LMB click on Cove's Thieve's guild.
[-] Fixed RMB action on Grotto.
[+] Changed action of Grotto. Now it works like Altar of Sacrifice.
[-] Fixed outlines of some Cove's buildings.
[-] Fixed bug when wrong buildings appear in Cove.
[-] Removed some unused internal building entries
[-] Fixed names of Cove's creature dwellings and corresponding dwellings on adv. map.
[-] Fixed incorrect display of Cove's buildings in Kingdom Overview.
[-] Fixed and improved graphics of some Cove's dwellings
[-] Fixed background sounds of Cove's dwellings.
[+] New adv.map dwelling - Small whirlpool. This one is now generated for random dwellings.
[+] New creature bank: Beholder sancuary
[+] New creature bank: Sea temple
[+] New creature bank: Pirate's cave
[+] New creature bank: Mansion
[+] New creature bank: Den
[-] Averaged chances to get primary skills for heroes of Captain class
[+] Fixed incorrect displaying of fonts
[-] Fixed video crashes
[+] More than one instance of game can be launched simultaneously
[-] Fixed upgrading of Corsairs at Hill fort
[-] Bidley can no longer upgrade Sea Dogs to Sea Dogs.
[-] Campaign heroes cannot be chosen when starting regular map.
[-] Fixed bug of stables giving infinite movement points to Cove heroes.
[-] Speciality of Annabel is now also applied to Sea Dogs
[-] Dargem's speciality is now working
[-] Fixed hero genders
[-] Accurate shot now works on undead
[-] Fixed animation glitch when Death stare and Accurate shot are used in same battle
[-] Fixed effect and added message to battle log for Bloodthirst ability
[-] Removed mass effect, dependance of duration from amount of creatures in stack and random selection of spells for Sea Witch/Sorceress
[+] Removed delays before playing sound
[+] Added animation standing of battle units
[+] You can now skip pre-battle sounds by clicking ESC
[+] Fixed many redrawing and animation bugs in battle.
[+] Removed random delays in mouseover animation.
[+] Changed battle speed settings. It is now possible to have very fast animation.
[+] Added exploding missiles for Gogs, Ice and Storm elementals and Enchanters.
[+] Special death animation (section 6) is now played if creature died from spell.
[+] Fixed many glitches in Town screens, especially Conflux's.
[+] Fixed probabilities of faerie dragon's spells.
[+] Fixed bug when movement penalty was not applied if hero had neutral creatures.
[+] Fixed incorrect calculation of arrow tower damage.
[+] Fixed cloning of 2-hex creatures
[-] Added sounds for Nymph's and Oceanid's teleportation
[+] Added new sounds for Orcs and Orc Chieftains
[+] Fixed SoD bug related to unnecessary message in battle log after tactics phase.
[+] Fixed the sound of Rogues.
[-] Fixed generation of random monsters.
[+] Improved smoothness of appearance and disappearance of objects.
[-] Fixed bugs in campaign "Under the Jolly Roger".
[-] Added some missing videos and background sounds for the campaign "Under the Jolly Roger"
[+] Added campaign "Storm of the Seas"
[+] Added many decorative objects, with funxtionalities of existing ones.
[+] Fixed animation of Rally Flag
[+] Fixed drawing of decorative buildings during construction in the city
[-] Fixed a small specialty icon of Orcs.
[-] Fixed spell probabilities of Cove.
[-] Fixed the chances of learning secondary skills for Cove heroes.
[-] Fixed crash when viewing the world map
[+] Added no melee penalty for Orcs and Orc Chieftains.
[-] Third flag no longer disappears when Capitol is build in Cove towns.
[-] Fixed the generation of a random hero for players whose main cities are preset Coves.
[-] Fixed rumors
[-] Fixed display icons and descriptions of player's resource, playing for Cove in scenario information
[-] Fixed the effect of the Thieves Guild in Cove. Now it only affects the player-owner
[-] Fixed the text of the strongest creatures in the dialogue of the Thieves' Guild.
[+] Fixed descriptions of guars of creature banks and mines (SoD bug)
[-] Fixed and strenghtened Revenge of Haspids
[-] Fixed bugs Eovatius' clone spell. The animation is played simultaneously, and each now has its own copy of the audio playing.
[-] Fixed bug with displaying income of +1 gold for Resource Silo from some cities
[+] Added exit of infinite loop when AI's army is too big.
[+] Fixed crash when magical obstacle (Force field or fire wall) is removed with "Remove obstacle" spell.
[+] Added 4 new background menu images, instead of the two that were in 1.0
[+] Fixed display of the stack attack bonuses.
[+] Changed the animation of Implosion spell.
[-] Added small black frames for Cove hero portraits
[+] Changed portraits of Jeremy, Astra, Kasmetra, Andal and Derek
[+] Increased health of Imps and Familiars by 1.
[+] Psychic and Magic Elementals cost more and have their speed reduced by 2.
[+] Increased cost of Fire Bird and Phoenix and reduced their growth to 1.



And a question from me: why did you remove the function of Grotto to trade creatures for artifacts? Was that due to game balance or was there something too buggy to leave it as it was?
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Sav
Sav


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posted August 07, 2012 01:58 PM
Edited by Sav at 14:00, 07 Aug 2012.

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[-] Removed "Secret buildings" What's that?

It was a building that did nothing and could be built only through cheat code.

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[+] Removed random delays in animation of ??? What is &#1082;&#1088;&#1080;&#1074;&#1083;&#1103;&#1085;&#1080;&#1103; in HoMM?

I meant the animation of battle unit when moving cursor on it.

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[+] Fixed bug when movement penalty was not applied on snow terrain if hero had neutral creatures.

Snow was only an example. On all terrians.

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[+] Fixed SoD bug related to unnecessary message in battle log before tactics phase.

After tactics phase.


Thanks a lot again!


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And a question from me: why did you remove the function of Grotto to trade creatures for artifacts? Was that due to game balance or was there something too buggy to leave it as it was?

It was very buggy and was made in ugly way, that's why it was hard to fix it. It also was almost useless in gameplay and had some conceptual problems like buing cheap artifacts with expensive creatures.

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What is the next step? HotA 1.1 English version and then 1.2? Or are you planning to move onto 2.0 with Forge after the release of the English version?

English release must be soon, sooner than the next version. I've already said that we will continue releasing versions without great code futures. We are working on 2.0 too, at the same time (the code will be fully rewritten in it). But 2.0 means only code solution of adding more new towns, I can't promise that Forge will be ready when it will be done.

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Weirdo
posted August 07, 2012 03:18 PM

thanks for the translation guys!
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solitaire345
solitaire345


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Famous Hero
posted August 07, 2012 03:21 PM

Updated my post with 1.0 -> 1.1 changelog.


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...without great code futures...

Features, not futures


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posted August 07, 2012 06:54 PM

If someone is interested - unofficial Hota page has been actualized. Not all is available in English, still there is some useful information and a lot of graphics in gallery.

Translation is rather unofficial - it will be changed with the release of English version of HotA.
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solitaire345
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posted August 07, 2012 07:39 PM

Great. One thing for now: in the page with descriptions of creature banks, rewards are named "price" for some reason.
You can also add the changelog I translated to your site.

Also about creature banks: In my opinion the battle background for new water creature banks beholders' sanctum and Sea temple (as well as original shipwrecks and derelict ships) should be something other than this clean ship's deck. I think that would be more convincing than it is now (imagine a group of adventurers exploring large abandoned building, full of creatures with tentacles and for some reason these adventurers get ambushed on a nice cleaned boat). IIRC there were some quite fitting battlefields posted in this forum.
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