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del_diablo
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posted May 28, 2008 08:59 PM |
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Frostmourne is just a influence, Arthas will only be ridden of the madness it gave him.
He still did most of those things on his own will after realizing how stuff turned out.
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xerox
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 29, 2008 06:45 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 18:47, 29 May 2008.
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It was not like Arthas knew that the Lich King wanted to possess him or wanted to kill his people. He just did everything to protect his homeland and his race. He had no idea that Frostmourne would make him mad. But he did go a little bit to far.
It was in Stratholme it became 100% sure that Arthas would be come one with the Lich King. It was in Stratholme his fate was sealed...
Frostmourne was a trap and is now a very powerful weapon that steals the souls of the ones it kills.
When Arthas picked up Frostmourne the Lich King could whisper him and began to corrupt him through the blade.
However there is a counter to Frostmourne, there is a weapon thats is like the opposite of Frostmourne, that is the only weapon that can kill the Lich King (speculated).
Its called the Ashbringer and is a completly anti-undead weapon. It can slaugther thousands of undead alone althougt most of its powers came through its wielder.
I think the Ashbringer will trap the Lich Kings spirit (so he cant go and posess somebody and make a new Scourge) inside it and destroy Frostmourne.
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Over himself, over his own
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emilsn
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posted May 30, 2008 07:05 AM |
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And where does this sword come from? (lore/story of it)
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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
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posted May 30, 2008 01:43 PM |
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Ashbringer and Frostmourne? Armageddon's Blade and the Sword of Frost? Smells like Blizzard have been taking "inspiration" from Heroes IV's storyline... again 
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"Those who forget their history are inevitably doomed to repeat it." —Proverb, Might and Magic VIII
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emilsn
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posted May 30, 2008 03:48 PM |
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Ahh lets face it, people steal from others A LOT and it is tough to find something REALLY original!
In Flames - Leeches
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A tear for the poet that can't be heard
praise the artist that steals.
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xerox
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posted June 01, 2008 10:21 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 22:22, 01 Jun 2008.
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Everybody steals from eachother and its not rare at all that there are artifacts that "counter" each other -.-
I dont think they stealed from it.
And what do you mean with again?
You do know that Warcraft and Starcraft were orginally meant to be a Warhammer game?
Anyway Frostmourne was a artifact created by the demon lords. It is VERY powerful and steals souls from people.
It was a trap to Artas.
The Lich Kings armor is also made by demons (and the Lich King himself was created by a demonlord, Kil'Jaedan who you banish in the Sunwell Plateau in Wo´W patch 2.4)
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted June 01, 2008 10:29 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 22:32, 01 Jun 2008.
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And what do you mean with again?
Arthas = Lord Haart
Illidan Stormrage = Archibald Ironfist
Jaina Proudmoore = Emilia Nighthaven
Muradin Bronzebeard = Tharj Orcsplitter
Warcraft III was developed and released after Heroes IV. There is basically no difference between Warcraft III's characters and these ones. Warcraft's ones are just more well-known 
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You do know that Warcraft and Starcraft were orginally meant to be a Warhammer game?
I know it all, friend  I wouldn't just go ahead and say something if I didn't know what I was talking about. Lighten up. Don't take every word against Warcraft so seriously. Blizzard Entertainment is not the centre of the universe
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Mamgaeater
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posted June 02, 2008 03:15 AM |
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wait didn't the lich king make frostmourne? (wc3 dampaign)
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dota
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xerox
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posted June 07, 2008 03:44 AM |
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Old Heroes storyline is nothing like Warcraft (Deathknights doesnt count, they came from LOTR).
No demons created Frostmourne.
Anyway i play WotLK alpha now. If you want me to post screens or tell you something about the Deathknight (i play a Blood Elf Deathknight, blood specced soon frost).
I take any requests.
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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Mamgaeater
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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted June 07, 2008 04:19 AM |
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what kind of runes are there?
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dota
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emilsn
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posted June 07, 2008 11:14 AM |
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Bring on the screenshots
could you maybe show us how exatly the rune system works, by maybe posting some Screenshots + alot of text .
and ofcourse show something nice
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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
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posted June 07, 2008 11:28 AM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 16:57, 08 Jun 2008.
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Old Heroes storyline is nothing like Warcraft
Yes it is. Do you know anything about it at all?
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No demons created Frostmourne.
Wow, you're so wrong. I thought you were the Warcraft lore lord around here.
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Frostmourne is an artifact of great evil and tremendous might, forged by demons to hold the Lich King's powers.
-- from the WoW Wiki.
Also, on that note, no demons created the Sword of Frost.
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xerox
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posted June 07, 2008 11:58 AM |
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Sadly the rune system is down but they say they are working hard to make it work again BUT by playing the Death Knight you can figure out how it works.
However all Deathknight abilities works.
This is what i understood while i played DK.
Death Knights uses runes and runic power as spellsystem.
When i started my Death Knight i was lvl 55, got cool looking armour and started in northern Eastern Plaugelands.
The real starting area is far to east of Eastern Plaugelands, beyond the Scarlet Crusade stronghold called "Tyrs Hand".
But it was not finished.
Back to the spell system.
I started with like 6 or 8 "Blood" runes. As i said before Runic Power and Runes dont work yet.
I noticed that the spells needed runic power and runes to work. But since they was broken all spells were free and some didnt work.
Some spells costed like 1 Unholy Rune and 1 Blood Rune.
You can choose what runes to have, but i couldnt change it, i was bound to Blood runes.
When you use the spells that needs runes to work then the used runes fade away and you must wait a while untill they restored aka you must untill the cooldown on it is complete.
They also needed runic power. I dont know much about this.
Didnt work either. But its supposed to work like mana.
I have heard that your runes regenrate runic power but im not sure.
A spell called "Death Coil" needed Runic Power but i couldnt use it since Runic Power didnt exist.
The three runes are.
Unholy: Lets you use more Unholy/Summoning spells.
Blood: Lets you use more Blood/Damage spells.
Frost: Lets you use more Frost/Tanking spells.
The are three talent trees with the same name
Unholy: This talent tree is very cool i think. It focuses on PvP. It allows you to summon undead to fight at your side, like a Gargolye to do air strikes or a ghoul pet etc.
Similar to a Necromancer, if you are on a RP server you could roleplay as one since they are very similar if they focus on this tree.
Blood: Focuses on damage spells. I was this tree. You cannot respec and change talent trees yet.
Its boring but deals moderate damage and lets you survive good.
Frost: Focuses on tanking and crowd control spells.
This talent tree was COMPLETLY OVERPOWERED when i played.
I dealt amazing damage even though it was a tanking tree.
Here are some nice screenshots.
Me logging out at the Forsaken/Horde base in Northrend.
The sunrise was really beutiful (i dont know what time zone the server followed, but some strange).
Northrend is not spawne yet. Only some Tuskarr (walruss people) and a giant Turtle boat exists yet in Northrend.
Me looking at Dalaran (lol they ripped of Academy in H5, but H5 ripped of Warcraft so...) from Icecrown Glaciar, the huge fortress zone of the Lich King.
Im open for all missions!
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
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- John Stuart Mill
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VokialBG
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posted June 07, 2008 11:19 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 23:25, 07 Jun 2008.
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Very interesting and thanks for the info.
Anyway I have to agree with Cepheus, but not completely No, Cepheus, you are 100% right you just forgot something (or you just didn't thought of it).
I looked over the last post, here is something pretty interesting:
Step one - Hmmm face from the past 
At first I noticed the helm (the face...) of you character (the Death Knight), ok cool looking but... lets see it again carefully, here:
Ok doesn't it remind you someone? At first I was thinking only "Omg I know this guy" <in this case its a girl, but the helm will be same for male characters so...>. Then I remembered!
Aren't they pretty similar?   Actually if you put this helm on a Undead they will get completely alike, even the colours!
Step two - so its not only the face
Not only the look of the Death knight was stolen by Blizzard! They did this with his ability as well!
Lets see here:
This is the stolen copy abillity now the real one:
Its good if they change the name of this game like - "World of Warcraft: Heroes 4's Return"
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Mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted June 07, 2008 11:28 PM |
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Xerox i'm not going to ask anything major like to see the lich king (actually can we see him?) but can you take a screenshot of you pking someone?
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dota
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xerox
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 08, 2008 01:05 AM |
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Edited by xerox at 01:08, 08 Jun 2008.
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Yes I have seen the Lich King. He exists.
The GMs (Game Masters) on the server morph themself into him.
On my server we recreated a battle from Warcraft 3, when Arthas duelled Illidan. You can find the in-game video when they fight if you play the game or just look at in on Youtube.
Anyway it was really fun.
GMs morphed into Illidan and Arthas, we teleported to Icecrown Glaciar (where the Lich King hangs out).
And Illidan got pwned of course (just like in Wc3).
And they spawned powerful epic raid bosses like Ragnaros, M'uru and Kil'Jaedan on us too. We killed them with our Death Knights.
Anyway i swapped server so i will take som screenshots when i fight.
I can show you some abilites and spells too and when i pwn whole bearmen (furbolgs) tribes alone.
Like:
"Army of the Dead"
"Summon Gargoyle"
"Raise Dead"
"Icy Touch"
"Unholy Blight"
etc....
But not now, later. I need to sleep to 
You can ask anything.
I can try to take a screenshot when i duel/fight another player too, if i can. A cool thing is, if i die, then i will rise up again as a Undead for 45 seconds to contiune to fight!
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
sovereign.
- John Stuart Mill
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted June 08, 2008 01:17 AM |
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Its good if they change the name of this game like - "World of Warcraft: Heroes 4's Return"
My god! Clones are alive and they've come to the fantasy genre
Slightly seriously I doubt they stole from the Gathering Storm expansion of all things, but come on, I mean:
Please don't rip my head off for berating your favourite game series, Xerox. I mean I actually like Warcraft too (even though I'm morally opposed to WoW for all the pay-per-play nonsense) but you cannot claim that
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Old Heroes storyline is nothing like Warcraft
because that's simply false. Floating mage cities (Celeste = Dalaran), crazy king's brothers who go nuts (Archibald = Illidan), demonic aliens focusing all their resources on one planet for no established reason (Kreegans = Burning Legion)
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Mamgaeater
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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted June 08, 2008 02:03 AM |
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i understand the storyline pretty well but i really don't know what happened to kel thuzad or illidan at the end.
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dota
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emilsn
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posted June 08, 2008 11:00 AM |
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Edited by emilsn at 11:02, 08 Jun 2008.
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What I didn't get was how Arthas could rip Illidan in half and Illidan still survied..
But it looks good. Interresting. And pls. No one want to copy HoMM4 - it sucked
EDIT: please show us around in Dalaran - I would love to see that city
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I may not follow. Just walk
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VokialBG
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First in line
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posted June 08, 2008 01:13 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 13:19, 08 Jun 2008.
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No one want to copy HoMM4 - it sucked
H4 is not so good because of its gameplay and radical new stuffs <I like it but this is other question>, but his story and lore are great like all Heroes games by NWC and 3DO...
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What I didn't get was how Arthas could rip Illidan in half and Illidan still survied..
Outside this Illidan is one of the strongest boss in game (as I know, but I dont play wow much after the BC), since Arthas can defeat him alone this new boss will be immortal! Also in the game lore (as I remember from WC3) isn't the Lich King immortal? I think he was And also if the Death Knight start at the Plague lands (territory of the Lich King) they will have to protect the Lich King? Like his private champions? Plus the Death Knights were called "Champions of the Lich King" in the lore, but now they will fight against him?
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