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Elvin
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posted June 22, 2008 11:20 AM |
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In my last game with academy Fiur had an obscene amount of lich masters. While I would not try that against a fast faction it worked well, I could not reach let alone kill them fast. Add a fire warriors summon on the other corner and I was at a disadvantage.
Of course when my arcane armored djinns did get to them they were of limited use but the reason they had not caused any real damage till then was my sandro's cloak and puppet.
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NIght_Heaven
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Lonely star in heaven dream
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posted June 22, 2008 02:23 PM |
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wow Elvin...still active like always 
Anyway nice strategy even the deads are ..er...deads and should be treated like =)) I like the way you explain those things and I will give you an A for this guide.
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Issimus
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posted June 22, 2008 07:41 PM |
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Nice guide!
It will surely come in handy.
Necropolis FTW!
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simko
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 23, 2008 08:24 PM |
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what about : leadership( i know it seems funy )
so leadership---recruitment, diplomacy->herald of death ?
leadership is useless in combat for necro's ...but ?
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Asheera
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posted June 23, 2008 08:26 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 22:53, 23 Jun 2008.
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I don't understand what's so great about Herald of Death. Even with Diplomacy the chances neutrals have to join your army are pretty low... to waste at least 1 skill for it is just silly.
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Elvin
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posted June 23, 2008 08:28 PM |
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Too risky, diplomacy in H5 is not what it used to be. Besides you often get to pay insane prices to get neutrals to join you, maybe in a large map and if you feel really lucky. After all you MUST be lucky to get leadership.
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simko
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posted June 23, 2008 08:36 PM |
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well yes thats true... i use all the skills required to get the ultimate howl of terror
+ attack battle frenzy, archery, flaming arrows (?)
sorcery: arcane training, arcane exellence, boneward
i usually win with Vladimir
the creatures:
skeleton archer is a hidden weapon if you have unicorn hornbow, i like it more than the runner
plague zombie: i think thats awesome if you weaken the other creatures with suffering
the poltergeists are more efficient 
vampire lords are still the best, they have no retailation, while princes have torpor and dont have no retaliation which is useless: you have to attack the creature anyway when it's blinded + the vampire prince first regains some lifes but then looses some in case of retaliation.
archlich : better than lichmasters they have some ultra good spells like decay& weakness;D
wraith: poor lv 6 creature, not very good at defending.
horror dragon : the worst tier7 in the game.
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Elvin
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posted June 23, 2008 09:00 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 22:13, 23 Jun 2008.
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Ultimate ability sucks badly which is why I did not even mention it. You sacrifice some good abilities/skills to get it and you may find the opponent with positive morale even after you get it.. It is not rare that you meet heroes with 7+ morale leadership or not.
Thread cleaned, please keep comments on the alternative upgrades in the appropriate topics.
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ZeroXcuses
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posted June 24, 2008 08:10 AM |
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Ultimate ability sucks badly which is why I did not even mention it. You sacrifice some good abilities/skills to get it and you may find the opponent with positive morale even after you get it.. It is not rare that you meet heroes with 7+ morale leadership or not.
If you're a necro and you run into someone that has morale that high, you may as well just quit!!!
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Asheera
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posted June 24, 2008 01:42 PM |
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How do you think such high Morale can be obtained? Especially without Leadership?
You can get Morale:
- from artifacts, BUT there are also negative artifacts which YOU can get to decrease the enemy's Morale
- from Leadership
- starts at +2 with the correct hero/army
- from Map Locations, but you can do a nasty trick and suicide one of your scouts to get rid of this bonus
So, if you manage to get some Morale reduction artifacts (which are also part of the Necro set), Howl of Terror is GREAT (ofc some requirements suck). Even if the enemy has 5 Morale (without any artifact, yours or his) the ultimate ability still gives a great advantage in that the enemy won't get a positive Morale 50% of the time. In fact, it will reduce it to a negative number, and if you're Deirdre or have that Necromancer Artifact Set it gets even lower.
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Darkshadow
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Cerise Princess
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posted June 24, 2008 01:44 PM |
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sorry but its not hard to go for +8 morale.
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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2008 01:51 PM |
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Besides negative morale arties are rare while the positive ones are easily obtained not to mention adventure locations.
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Asheera
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posted June 24, 2008 01:51 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 13:53, 24 Jun 2008.
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@DarkShadow: Can you tell me how? Without artifacts and without map locations? Because if it is WITH those two things considered, I already explained how to counter them
@Elvin: Positive morale artifacts are easier to obtain? As far as I know, they are almost the same negative artifacts (except the Necklace of the Lion which is pretty weak anyway)
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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2008 02:04 PM |
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Well one is a relic and the other major  In comparison they are rarer.
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Asheera
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posted June 24, 2008 02:08 PM |
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Hmm... in the manual it says that both Lion's Crown and Cloak of Death's Shadow are Relics. And both Ring of the Broken Will and Cape of the Lion's Mane are Majors.
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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2008 02:46 PM |
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There's also armor of valor and necklace of lion that are pretty common. Anyways say 1-2 from arties, 1-3 from locations(it is possible more but I wouldn't bet on it ) and 2 from native and you already have a solid morale.
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ZeroXcuses
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posted June 24, 2008 04:04 PM |
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Yeah, and there are much better artifacts to use besides the negative morale ones (though that cloak is pretty good... -2 morale, -2 luck), especially with the Ring of Broken Will (which is part of the Urgash set, not Death's Embrace). While you are equipping stuff like that just to reduce enemy morale to +2 (which is still more than you will ever have), they will have stuff like Ring of Speed or Ring of Machine Affinity!
Necro is still screwed even with Wail of the Banshee (how many turns does that last anyway) buffed by Death's Embrace and Howl of Terror. With both of those facing a +8 morale opponent (not out of the question with Haven and Sylvan), you'll get them down to 0 or worse, but look at all you have to give up to do it!
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kermit
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Soul hunter
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posted June 24, 2008 04:43 PM |
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deirdre's banshee howl with 2 rings of broken will + sorrow = -10 morale
I sometimes use positive morale boosters for necros phoenix
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ZeroXcuses
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posted June 24, 2008 04:56 PM |
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Quote:
deirdre's banshee howl with 2 rings of broken will + sorrow = -10 morale
I sometimes use positive morale boosters for necros phoenix
Speaking of heroes, where's that part of the discussion here?
I've never used Dirdre myself, as I think that banshee howl becomes obsolete at the higher levels, and I would much rather cast a frenzy/puppet master/blind on my hero's first turn.
And is there a spell for mass sorrow? I have not encountered it. If there were, then I would think that stacking up negative morale would be a legit strat.
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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2008 07:28 PM |
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There's this topic for necro hero discussion. At higher levels it is crappy unless you get some pieces of the necro set, casting it for half initiative it's not bad. No mass sorrow.
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