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Mulroney
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posted June 12, 2008 06:50 PM

Canadian "Human Rights Commissions" Destroying Rights

I don't know how many of you follow Canadian issues at all, but this is relevant to the U.S. as well, I think. Pseudo-legal tribunals exist here called "Human Rights Commissions," which have begun charging publishers and writers with hate crimes.

In this system, the complaintant's legal fees are covered by tax dollars, and the defendant must pay their own legal fees, even if they win. But they won't win, because literally (and I'm not making this up) 100% of those investigated have been convicted. 100%, which I suppose makes sense, because our loose definition of "hate crimes" basically state that if someone complains, that's sufficient proof of hate.

A good example has come up recently, where a reverend has been charged with hate crimes for the following article. He's been forced to write an official apology, to be published in the local newspaper, and has been ordered never to speak publically regarding homosexuality ever again. He was also ordered to pay damages to the complaintant (himself not a homosexual, but an anti-Christian advocate), for the time he had to spend building a case.

Here's the article:

Homosexual Agenda Wicked

The following is not intended for those who are suffering from an unwanted sexual identity crisis. For you, I have understanding, care, compassion and tolerance. I sympathize with you and offer you my love and fellowship. I prayerfully beseech you to seek help, and I assure you that your present enslavement to homosexuality can be remedied. Many outspoken, former homosexuals are free today.

Instead, this is aimed precisely at every individual that in any way supports the homosexual machine that has been mercilessly gaining ground in our society since the 1960s. I cannot pity you any longer and remain inactive. You have caused far too much damage.

My banner has now been raised and war has been declared so as to defend the precious sanctity of our innocent children and youth, that you so eagerly toil, day and night, to consume. With me stand the greatest weapons that you have encountered to date - God and the "Moral Majority." Know this, we will defeat you, then heal the damage that you have caused. Modern society has become dispassionate to the cause of righteousness. Many people are so apathetic and desensitized today that they cannot even accurately define the term "morality."

The masses have dug in and continue to excuse their failure to stand against horrendous atrocities such as the aggressive propagation of homo- and bisexuality. Inexcusable justifications such as, "I'm just not sure where the truth lies," or "If they don't affect me then I don't care what they do," abound from the lips of the quantifiable majority.

Face the facts, it is affecting you. Like it or not, every professing heterosexual is have their future aggressively chopped at the roots.

Edmund Burke's observation that, "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," has been confirmed time and time again. From kindergarten class on, our children, your grandchildren are being strategically targeted, psychologically abused and brainwashed by homosexual and pro-homosexual educators.

Our children are being victimized by repugnant and premeditated strategies, aimed at desensitizing and eventually recruiting our young into their camps. Think about it, children as young as five and six years of age are being subjected to psychologically and physiologically damaging pro-homosexual literature and guidance in the public school system; all under the fraudulent guise of equal rights.

Your children are being warped into believing that same-sex families are acceptable; that men kissing men is appropriate.

Your teenagers are being instructed on how to perform so-called safe same gender oral and anal sex and at the same time being told that it is normal, natural and even productive. Will your child be the next victim that tests homosexuality positive?

Come on people, wake up! It's time to stand together and take whatever steps are necessary to reverse the wickedness that our lethargy has authorized to spawn. Where homosexuality flourishes, all manner of wickedness abounds.

Regardless of what you hear, the militant homosexual agenda isn't rooted in protecting homosexuals from "gay bashing." The agenda is clearly about homosexual activists that include, teachers, politicians, lawyers, Supreme Court judges, and God forbid, even so-called ministers, who are all determined to gain complete equality in our nation and even worse, our world.

Don't allow yourself to be deceived any longer. These activists are not morally upright citizens, concerned about the best interests of our society. They are perverse, self-centered and morally deprived individuals who are spreading their psychological disease into every area of our lives. Homosexual rights activists and those that defend them, are just as immoral as the pedophiles, drug dealers and pimps that plague our communities.

The homosexual agenda is not gaining ground because it is morally backed. It is gaining ground simply because you, Mr. and Mrs. Heterosexual, do nothing to stop it. It is only a matter of time before some of these morally bankrupt individuals such as those involved with NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Lovers Association, will achieve their goal to have sexual relations with children and assert that it is a matter of free choice and claim that we are intolerant bigots not to accept it.

If you are reading this and think that this is alarmist, then I simply ask you this: how bad do things have to become before you will get involved? It's time to start taking back what the enemy has taken from you. The safety and future of our children is at stake.

Rev. Stephen Boissoin


Ask yourself, whether you agree with the article or not, (and I don't, necessarily) does this constitute a crime? And if it does, does the reverend not at least deserve a fair trial in a real court? I can't imagine something like this happening in the U.S., but you never know.

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posted June 12, 2008 06:56 PM
Edited by executor at 19:01, 12 Jun 2008.

Whether it is a crime is decided by legislation in Canada.
I think it should not be one in any country, lest it does not support the freedom of opinion.
And in many parts I agree with his opinion .
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Mulroney
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posted June 12, 2008 07:00 PM

A newspaper editor named Ezra Levant is being charged by the same system for re-printing the Danish Muslim cartoons.

As well, a writer for a well-known, mainstream magazine called Maclean's is being charged for an article which argues that Canada could have the same problems with Muslims that the UK has if we're not careful.

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posted June 12, 2008 07:26 PM
Edited by mvassilev at 19:32, 12 Jun 2008.

On one hand you have the government abridging free speech in the name of "the national interest", and on the other hand you have it in the name of political correctness. Neither is good.

The reverend has the right to express himself, and I will defend his right to say it, but what he's saying is nonsense.

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With me stand the greatest weapons that you have encountered to date - God and the "Moral Majority."

Face the facts, it is affecting you. Like it or not, every professing heterosexual is have their future aggressively chopped at the roots.

Think about it, children as young as five and six years of age are being subjected to psychologically and physiologically damaging pro-homosexual literature and guidance in the public school system; all under the fraudulent guise of equal rights.

Your teenagers are being instructed on how to perform so-called safe same gender oral and anal sex and at the same time being told that it is normal, natural and even productive. Will your child be the next victim that tests homosexuality positive?

The agenda is clearly about homosexual activists that include, teachers, politicians, lawyers, Supreme Court judges, and God forbid, even so-called ministers, who are all determined to gain complete equality in our nation and even worse, our world.

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What is wrong with this guy? Any suggestion that you can convince someone to become homosexual is just nonsense. I mean, really! And people like the Reverend are allowed to vote, and, God forbid, hold public office!
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Mulroney
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posted June 12, 2008 07:44 PM

I don't want to make this topic about homosexuality (although I would agree with the reverend that, to a certain extent, being exposed to homosexuality could make you more likely to experiment with it).

It just seems scary to me that someone could be charged with a CRIME for that article. And what's worse, he had to publish a followup denouncing himself, and his religion.

Further, the ruling stated that the reverend is banned from making public remarks regarding the complaintant. So basically, he has to pretend to be happy with the outcome of the case. He can't even criticize the process! It sounds more like a soviet court.

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posted June 12, 2008 07:56 PM

Quote:

It just seems scary to me that someone could be charged with a CRIME for that article. And what's worse, he had to publish a followup denouncing himself, and his religion.

Further, the ruling stated that the reverend is banned from making public remarks regarding the complaintant. So basically, he has to pretend to be happy with the outcome of the case. He can't even criticize the process! It sounds more like a soviet court.


That fits the definition of what totalitarianism is. Way to go Canada .
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posted June 13, 2008 12:00 AM

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being exposed to homosexuality could make you more likely to experiment with it
And what, exactly, is wrong with that? If you like it, then good for you, you've found something you like. If you don't like it, then good for you, you know that homosexuality is not for you, and you should stick to heterosexuality.

I agree that charging him with a crime is too much, though. It's just as wrong to oppress people like him as it is to oppress homosexuals.
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posted June 13, 2008 01:17 AM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 01:18, 13 Jun 2008.

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being exposed to homosexuality could make you more likely to experiment with it


Wow.  That's just like how playing videogames makes a person more likely to be violent.


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posted June 13, 2008 02:08 AM

No, it's more like saying that trying video games might make you like them.
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Mulroney
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posted June 13, 2008 03:43 AM

No, it's like being encouraged to try violence, and seeing if you like that (assuming you feel that homosexuality is wrong even once, like violence).

Several gay magazines have come out in support of this reverend. They feel that the discussion an article like his generates is a good thing.

Could you imagine if a gay man wrote an article criticizing Christianity, and was forced to denounce his gay lifestyle publically? Sounds pretty outrageous if you reverse the situation, so it should be just as outrageous when the Christian is the victim.


I'm glad you guys agree with me, at least, that he should have the right to express his views, from a legal standpoint.

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posted June 13, 2008 04:14 AM

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No, it's like being encouraged to try violence, and seeing if you like that (assuming you feel that homosexuality is wrong even once, like violence).
That's a pretty big assumption to make. What, may I ask you, is so bad about homosexuality when it's done by consenting adults in private?
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posted June 13, 2008 04:47 AM

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being exposed to homosexuality could make you more likely to experiment with it


Sorry, I think that is wrong. I am exposed to Homosexuality all the time, especially at my school but I am not a homosexual and I wouldn't want to experiment with it either.
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Mulroney
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posted June 13, 2008 05:14 AM

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No, it's like being encouraged to try violence, and seeing if you like that (assuming you feel that homosexuality is wrong even once, like violence).
That's a pretty big assumption to make. What, may I ask you, is so bad about homosexuality when it's done by consenting adults in private?

What I meant to say is, if you have a problem with homosexuality (and obviously you don't, but whether you like it or not some people do) you probably are against the idea of even trying it once.

Anyway, I don't want this topic to become about homosexuality. I shouldn't have given my opinion on the topic. The point is, if this was somebody talking about how wrong cute puppies are, I'd still be outraged.

Speaking of which, has anyone ever heard of something like this happening in the US or otherwise? (Free speech being impeded, I mean)

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posted June 13, 2008 09:48 AM

Well I remember a lutheran priest from Sweden being sentenced to be imprisoned because he said that "according to christian moral standards, homosexuality is a sin" and "some evidence would lead to conclusion that not every homosexual begins life as homosexual", and he did not want to change his mind in public.
He was given asylum in Poland.
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posted June 13, 2008 10:49 AM
Edited by Moonlith at 11:18, 13 Jun 2008.

Mulroney, you're a moron if you claim homosexuality can be spread like some disease; moreover sinse you have no backup for your rediculous claims other than your own ignorance and prejudice.

Wether this person who wrote the article should be punished for a crime, I don't know; but I DO worry about the fact he is allowed to spew such complete bullsnow to the masses and might actually convince some retard that homosexuality is indeed an infectious disease that somehow tries to "destroy societies"... Well there's a good children's book evil guy motive. Hm, religion, children's book...

I'm not against freedom of speech; I AM against freedom of speech when done by retards who have no clue whatsoever they are talking about.

This guy is only spreading hatred towards a group that has done nothing to him.
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posted June 13, 2008 12:08 PM

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Well I remember a lutheran priest from Sweden being sentenced to be imprisoned because he said that "according to christian moral standards, homosexuality is a sin" and "some evidence would lead to conclusion that not every homosexual begins life as homosexual", and he did not want to change his mind in public.
He was given asylum in Poland.


Wow you managed to sugar-coat his hate speech well. If you are referring to the same man he also said that homosexuals were "a deep cancer tumour on all of society" and that gays were more likely than other people to rape children and animals. He warned that Sweden risked a natural disaster because of its tolerance of homosexuality.

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posted June 13, 2008 12:11 PM

And that is what Poland gave asylum to?

Well, I did see a poll recently which stated at least two thirds of polish people thought negative about homosexuals - don't remember the exact issue.

I wonder why my country is still in the EU.
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posted June 13, 2008 02:13 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 14:13, 13 Jun 2008.

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but I DO worry about the fact he is allowed to spew such complete bullsnow to the masses and might actually convince some retard that homosexuality is indeed an infectious disease that somehow tries to "destroy societies"...
Well some atheists claim that thing about religions too, so are you going to say we should be worried about their bullsnow (at least from the victims' point of view)?

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posted June 13, 2008 02:26 PM

Lith
We started the EU... (Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands...)

I totally agree btw.
Everyone is allowed to talk just as much BS as he wants. Because we would be hypocrits if we didn't. if we would silence this man because you say he talks BS, then we should ban the tabloids as well for example.

We have the right of free speech and we are able to spew/spawn as much BS as we want otherwise we should burn a lot of writers... (I'll find you Dirck Bracke) If people enjoy reading this and want to apply this in their life (heaven's forbid) then they have every right.

We shouldn't be concerned at all about what we are allowed to write. If we silence everyone now, then soon we, not muslim extremists, will be standing outside with banners demanding to kill the intolerant, making us intolerant. The more we condemn ppl for this (saying stupid things), the more backwards we become.

If we would be afraid to say it, we wouldn't be able to argument it. Then there would be more ppl running around with delusions.

Now, I'm back to my coffin. If anyone needs me, call DS and say it's about BS.
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posted June 13, 2008 02:35 PM

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has anyone ever heard of something like this happening in the US or otherwise?
In the US, we usually have the opposite problem.

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I DO worry about the fact he is allowed to spew such complete bull**** to the masses and might actually convince some retard that homosexuality is indeed an infectious disease that somehow tries to "destroy societies"...
I realize that what he's saying is complete nonsense, but he still should have the right to say it.
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