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Fauch
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posted October 02, 2008 01:10 PM |
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hum good job
(weirdly I think I tried that but it didn't work in the castle. I suppose I may actually have tried something slightly different)
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SimonaK
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 03, 2008 02:21 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 02:52, 03 Oct 2008.
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Ok,
I release a new version.
In the files of the first version, all creature's upgrades are sorted alphabetically descending.
Why?
To be sure that third upgrade ID will be the second upgrade in the list.
Ex:
CREATURE_BERSERKER
<Upgrades>
<Item>CREATURE_BATTLE_RAGER</Item>
<Item>CREATURE_352</Item>
</Upgrades>
numbers are always smaller than letters in string comparaison 
But I noticed this process was also executed for third upgrade creatures....
On this hit, third upgrade Preserve Tier 3 has this upgrades:
CREATURE_SHARP_SHOOTER
CREATURE_GRAND_ELF
But the BaseCreature has:
CREATURE_GRAND_ELF
CREATURE_SHARP_SHOOTER
(Third upgrade have always same upgrades than its BaseCreatures)
I find it's better that third upgrade's upgrades have exactly the same sort
than their own BaseCreatures's upgrades
In this new version, all third upgrade's upgrades are in the same order than those of own BaseCreature:
http://www.speedyshare.com/112797915.html
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 03, 2008 12:42 PM |
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now I think I remember what I tried :
creature brawler
<upgrade1>CREATURE_BERSERKER</upgrade1>
<upgrade2>CREATURE_352</upgrade2>
creature berserker
<upgrade1>CREATURE_BATTLE_RAGER</upgrade1>
<upgrade2>CREATURE_352</upgrade2>
creature battle rager
<upgrade1>CREATURE_BERSERKER</upgrade1>
<upgrade2>CREATURE_352</upgrade2>
creature 352
<upgrade1>CREATURE_BERSERKER</upgrade1>
<upgrade2>CREATURE_BATTLE_RAGER</upgrade2>
and I modified the building to make my upgrade available in it instead of the regular upgrade
but it didn't work.
instead of the creature 352, nothing was available in the castle at the 2nd upgrade, and upgrading / switching upgrades was impossible.
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted October 03, 2008 10:31 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 23:47, 03 Oct 2008.
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Indeed that's cannot work.
The best way is:
A castle will go on to allow to upgrade BaseCreature in these two original upgrades.
and
A castle will go on to allow to upgrade a original upgrade in other original upgrade.
and
A castle will go on to allow to upgrade a third upgrade in these two original upgrades (as BaseCreature)
and
If we want a third upgrade (the alternate) we must go to HillFort.
This gameplay is just perfect because it doesn't need to modify building in castles.
Moreover, the third upgrade is considered as a mix between faction and neutral.
As we can just get third upgrades by the Hillfort it's acceptable that their stats be a little bit overpowered about the orignal upgrades stats.
Because a hillfort takes a good time to get.
Just...perfect, just cool.
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That made very fear
Hey Fauch, do you know in your mod camera files are really not good.
they are camera from old version whit the old IDs of your mod.
In fact, you go on to use ID of completly others NCF.
We can see in GameMechanics, IDs are good:
But It's far to be OK in cameras:
Seriously, when you plan finally to finish your MOD?
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 04, 2008 04:50 PM |
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when I want.
I fixed all you said. but haven't tested yet.
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SimonaK
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 04, 2008 04:56 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 17:11, 04 Oct 2008.
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Quote:
when I want.
I fixed all you said. but haven't tested yet.
Come on Fauch,
I test it since a long time ago.
Your MOD is very "formidable"
It is very close of a perfect finality.
I found all bugs for you.
Third upgrade is enough well-balanced.
Your MOD works fine.
All that missing is cameras fixing.
Don't be lazy. 
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 05, 2008 11:45 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 23:51, 05 Oct 2008.
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I don't manage to add an effect to the bear rider 
on the right hand more exactly. does someone know the name of the bone?
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 06, 2008 12:05 AM |
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You know, you can look that up yourself. Remember Nelgrith's post I showed you ages ago? Look at the one below it, there's instructions on finding out any creature skeleton's bone names.
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 06, 2008 07:40 PM |
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ok, I did it. it's a mess, but I think I found the bone. it has the name I thought... I suppose I made a mistake somewhere and missed it...
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted October 10, 2008 07:43 PM |
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What is the Creature_382's utility ?
I want to understand.
Thanks
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 10, 2008 08:06 PM |
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oh, I thought I answered.
it isn't used anymore. there are some files which were used and aren't anymore, and some back-up copies I forgot to delete.
btw, is there someone skilled at playing with effect willing to help me?
one of the last thing (I think) I have to do is to add an effect to the bear rider's right hand (whatever the effect, I only want him to look like a kind of minor battle mage) but for some reasons I don't manage to add an effect, and I don't have much time to search what is the problem.
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SimonaK
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 10, 2008 08:48 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 20:49, 10 Oct 2008.
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Thanks for anwser.
about the effect, If you think I can help you, come to talk me on AC.
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 12, 2008 02:12 PM |
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Disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
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posted October 16, 2008 05:50 PM |
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted October 16, 2008 06:44 PM |
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and the cyclop icon has a problem
The problem is that you didn't save it with Alpha (32 bit); you saved it in 24 bit.
Even if you don't use transparency you still have to save it in 32 bit. Trust me, I tried once without and it got screwed up - I think it's the same problem here.
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 18, 2008 06:35 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 00:18, 30 Oct 2008.
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woah, adding a glowing orb effect to the bear raider is horrible.
I can't even see its exact position in space. 
the bear raider is finished, the cyclop icon has been fixed. I think there isn't much left to do, apart from improving a few stuffs. 
druid improved :
(I know I forgot to recolor a small part)
final version ?
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/fb29b7ae87_33.2MB
as usual, tell me if you see glitches, what you think of the balance, if every upgrade seems useful, etc...
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted November 10, 2008 02:05 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 04:01, 10 Nov 2008.
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final version ?
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/fb29b7ae87_33.2MB
as usual, tell me if you see glitches, what you think of the balance, if every upgrade seems useful, etc...
where is the new version with originals stats for originals creatures?
you took my modifications about upgrades because you finally understood the good idea, but you retook the time to remodify originals stats for originals creatures as these ones you think.
but anyway why don't release originals stats as well?
you say "I'll release a version with originals stats when i will have the time" I provide you this version and you don't take the effort to release it after improvement.
Thanks to keep my idea for upgrades tag. but release too the originals stats for originals creatures version.
EDIT: Moreover, I hope the presence of Water_Elemental.xdb in your GameMechanics/Creature/Creatures/Neutrals is a wrong.
EDIT 2: You would be to put a capital cap on the t for « Fille des ténèbres » 
and
« Mort glaciale »
and
« Hydre du chaos »
Check all your orthograph in the descriptions:
Quote:
Mistérieux démons aux origines inconnues, les Guerriers de la Nuit tirent leurs pouvoirs surnaturels de leur lame lunaire.
and why not in both languages. (try with Microsoft Word or whanever)
However, your descriptions are textually awesome
EDIT 3: Clean up all concerning your AvatarOfDeath. Anyway I noticed you removed the 57th creature.
EDIT 4: And please, in your version for originals stats for originals creatures remove all which can alter the original gameplay like your GameMechanics/Spells. I don't understand why you put all these modifications about Spells in just your alternate upgrades mod.
EDIT 5: You added ScriptID and fixed cameras. Coooool!
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 10, 2008 05:09 PM |
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no the spells should be there, many creatures cast spells at the extra expert mastery. and it's the same for the water elemental, instead of multiplying damage per 0.3, I changed the mastery, I think I made his spells as strong as the archmage's fireball.
about the rest, the mod is still quite a mess lol, that's probably the main reason why it's still a beta lol
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted November 10, 2008 05:20 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 17:20, 10 Nov 2008.
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What's this Extra Expert mastery? I don't see any formula or something in the .xdb file to define the spell's damage or something else for this mastery
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 10, 2008 05:44 PM |
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a 5th level of mastery for a few spells, that I created myself.
each spell currently has 4 levels of mastery, and can have 5 at the maximum
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