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Asheera
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posted November 10, 2008 05:46 PM |
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Really? And it works? How did you find out about this?
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Fauch
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posted November 10, 2008 08:18 PM |
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yes it works. I discovered it in ToK.
water elemental :
- ice bolt and circle of winter : 14 + 14 x power
genie :
- arcane crystal : 15 + 15 x power
artificer :
- fire traps : 12 traps, 6 + 6 x power
inquisitor :
- magic fist : 20 + 20 x power
- holy word : 11 x power
horned overseer :
- explosion : 14 x power
frost death :
- deep freeze : 18 + 18 x power, 1.03 +0.3 x power
symbiotic treant :
- wasp swarm : 17 + 17 x power -0.6 atb
war mage :
- call lightning : 4 x number of bears
fire master :
- fire chain : 11 + 11 x power
stone lord :
- stone spikes : 18 + 18 x power
azure dragon :
- mass bloodlust : 1 x power attack, 0.5 turn
master mage :
- arcane armour : 100 x power, 100% protection
- haste : +100% initiative, 1 x power turns
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SimonaK
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posted November 10, 2008 10:59 PM |
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OK about the opportunity of using the useless original mastery.
This is a great idea, especially if it really works.
but, did you modify stats about others (normal ones) mastery spell too? 
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Fauch
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posted November 10, 2008 11:36 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 23:40, 10 Nov 2008.
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no I didn't modify the original spells.
except explosion, call lightning and call of the storm
but I'm actually wondering if slow should be modified to 10% / 20% / 30% / 40% like haste instead of 25%/ 30% / 35% / 40%
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SimonaK
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posted November 11, 2008 01:05 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 03:30, 11 Nov 2008.
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white background icon,  you're sure?
try a darker color background instead of completly white 
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no I didn't modify the original spells.
except explosion, call lightning and call of the storm
but I'm actually wondering if slow should be modified to 10% / 20% / 30% / 40% like haste instead of 25%/ 30% / 35% / 40%
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*except* .... so you has modify originals stats for spell too...
Fauch, I say you can do what you want about extra expert spell, about stats of your 3rd upgrades...
but please, great please, make also a version which will not absolutly touch originals stats for originals creature and originals mastery spells. A version which will not alter the original gameplay.
a NCF mod doesn't must alter the gameplay. This is just new creatures not a personal vision about others stats of the game.
So, make your mod with altered stats for originals if you want but at least make a side-mod with real stats as well.
Thanks 
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Asheera
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posted November 11, 2008 01:49 PM |
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Come on, it's not that a huge difference - those were crappy abilities anyway.
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SimonaK
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posted November 11, 2008 11:15 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 23:30, 11 Nov 2008.
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Come on, it's not that a huge difference - those were crappy abilities anyway.
hehe, perfectly right.
but where are his informations about their modifications? niet.
anybody can take his mod and doesn't know that stats are modified..
Induction to error. he would think that results's calculation are all original.
Moreover, this do not allow the choice at players....you want these NCF, then take stats modification too.
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Fauch
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posted November 12, 2008 02:15 AM |
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but where are his informations about their modifications? niet.
hidden somewhere in this thread
I made an .xls file with the new stats and abilities of all the creatures.
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SimonaK
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posted November 12, 2008 02:23 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 02:26, 12 Nov 2008.
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but where are his informations about their modifications? niet.
hidden somewhere in this thread
I made an .xls file with the new stats and abilities of all the creatures.
a .xls??? ,,,(I remember) so, a loooot of modifications
I agree about boosting original mastery spell but I would like better in other mod just for it and not included in NCF mod.
However, I understand too is impossible to make 2 files with the same name and then you cannot create extra expert spell in other file or mixed the 2 mods together.
So, do what you want and you would be nice if you would release 2 versions (both including extra expert stats)
Why not create a boosting mastery spell and boosting original creature mod?
Ex: I really dislike the ABILITY_SCATTER_SHOT on Skeleton Archer you made in your 3rd upgrade mod.
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Fauch
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posted November 12, 2008 02:45 AM |
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a way to balance skeleton archers and warriors.
I'm under the impression the warriors are way better than the archers.
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SimonaK
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posted November 12, 2008 02:56 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 03:01, 12 Nov 2008.
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a way to balance skeleton archers and warriors.
I'm under the impression the warriors are way better than the archers.
ya, I think too that warriors are stronger. why not? If this time you feel to shot in necro, accept that archers are weaker. anyway you have archlichs... that is a good balance.
and after all, you have the 3rd upgrade to balance the 2 others
Moreover, you already use this ability for your 3rd upgrade preserve woodelf....with double shot...come on... 
so the real best balance is 2 versions.
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Fauch
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posted November 12, 2008 03:14 AM |
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Moreover, you already use this ability for your 3rd upgrade preserve woodelf....with double shot...come on...
no, I think I removed it in the most recent versions.
he has poisonous + "fearful" arrows
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SimonaK
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posted November 12, 2008 03:20 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 03:33, 12 Nov 2008.
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Moreover, you already use this ability for your 3rd upgrade preserve woodelf....with double shot...come on...
no, I think I removed it in the most recent versions.
he has poisonous + "fearful" arrows
you think? you aren't sure?
haha....too bad I liked it like that
poisonous?  hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahhaha!
hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahhaha!
Seriously, I choosen them for their double scatter shot...I dont still know their new stat but i think already be back to original upgrade for this creature 
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Fauch
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posted November 12, 2008 01:11 PM |
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when did I give double shot and scatter arrow to a creature?
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SimonaK
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posted November 12, 2008 11:07 PM |
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when did I give double shot and scatter arrow to a creature?
I don't know anymore...
anyway isn't a good idea?
Last stats I have about SwiftArcher:
Old
ABILITY_FEAR
ABILITY_IMMUNITY_TO_MIND_CONTROL
ABILITY_SCATTER_SHOT
New
ABILITY_FEAR
ABILITY_IMMUNITY_TO_MIND_CONTROL
ABILITY_POISONOUS_ATTACK
So, fine, poisonous instead of scatter.
I find scatter better than poisonous for preserve....especially for the 3rd upgrade...
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Fauch
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posted November 12, 2008 11:33 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 23:50, 12 Nov 2008.
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fear works only on the stack at the center of the area targetted.
and I wanted a mass fear attack.
the night archer is meant to destabilize the opponents, while the master hunter and arcane archer are meant to kill them.
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EDIT 3: Clean up all concerning your AvatarOfDeath. Anyway I noticed you removed the 57th creature.
done. (I think)
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SimonaK
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posted November 13, 2008 12:06 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 00:06, 13 Nov 2008.
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will you release a version with originals stats yes or no? 
it's all I want to know.....
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SimonaK
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posted November 21, 2008 05:18 AM |
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I know you didn't ask to my question....
but anyway I report you a serious bug even.
because I'm good.
I don't know why but using SPELL_LAND_MINE with your "Artificier" sometimes does to crash the game while its combat turn.
I advice you to really test this creature to prove yourself.
I removed all spells from this creature and replaced them by new abilities.
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted November 21, 2008 01:20 PM |
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I don't know why but using SPELL_LAND_MINE with your "Artificier" sometimes does to crash the game while its combat turn.
I noticed that too, when I was modding some things for 3.0
The AI sometimes crashes if it has Fire Trap with its creatures (I gave it to the Rune Patriarch, so the crash has nothing to do with that NCF creature in particular)
I was hoping in 3.1 it got fixed, but apparently it didn't.
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SimonaK
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posted November 21, 2008 10:49 PM |
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Great info
So, I will keep out SPELL_LAND_MINE or similar spell to a creature as long as Nival doesn't fix it.
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