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winterfate
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posted July 03, 2008 01:16 AM |
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Or perhaps they could rework the Shatter skills so your units get bonuses every time a spell of the said School is cast. 
Actually, what would've been pretty cool for Shatter Dark is:
(NOTE: This doesn't exist!  )
Incorruptible Will
(requires Memory of our Blood + Detain Dark)
Units in your army gain Immunity to Frenzy. If you have Expert Shatter Dark, your units also gain Immunity to Puppet Master.
Maybe that's too overpowered, but it gives Orcs a fighting chance, IMO.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted July 03, 2008 01:30 AM |
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No, with shatter they can win even if puppeted or frenzied. Immunity would be giving the victory to them by default.
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winterfate
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posted July 03, 2008 01:42 AM |
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I see.
Well, how about the bonuses thing then? Perhaps a boost to a stat for each curse cast?
But, this is getting off topic. This may be better in a Heroes VI Wish Thread. 
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kermit
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Soul hunter
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posted July 03, 2008 03:12 PM |
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A good although basic introduction to stronghold.
I'd like to see more of the unusual builds and perhaps some replays.
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted July 03, 2008 03:16 PM |
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I usually personally don't save replays. When I get a chance next time I will. It is meant to be pretty basic (though I still have a bit of work ahead of me). 
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winterfate
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posted July 03, 2008 09:47 PM |
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Well...right now, I have a savegame with my dad. We're playing 2v2. He's Dungeon, I'm Stronghold (that, by way of forgetting to activate them...has no warcries in his Hall of Trials... ). We're facing a Wizard and a Barbarian (who's probably in the same crisis I am).
So, I guess I can bring in some replays. Do keep in mind you're not going to see one warcry.
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Thanatos
Known Hero
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posted July 03, 2008 10:32 PM |
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Erm, forgetting to activate warcries? What do you mean?
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winterfate
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posted July 03, 2008 10:36 PM |
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@Thanatos: Ok...when you set out to edit a map in the map editor...if it hasn't been made with the Tribes of the East Editor, you have to activate the Orc heroes and warcries in Map Properties...otherwise, you won't be able to hire heroes or learn warcries.
It's kinda silly actually, but that's how it works. Same thing happens if you create a map in the original version and run Hammers of Fate (you can pick the Fortress, but can't hire Dwarven heroes or get Runic Magic).
EDIT: Here's some Stronghold replays!
http://www.speedyshare.com/720921327.html
I particularly liked the Orc vs Orc battle. Even without Warcries, it was epic. Stunning Blow FTW! 
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted July 04, 2008 11:44 AM |
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Edited by WarLore at 11:45, 04 Jul 2008.
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btw,how often you can get hordes anger warcry? in my last ten games with stronghold i have always got battlecry. so how often it comes?
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Min-Guitsu
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 04, 2008 12:15 PM |
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If I'm not mistaken just a chance of 50%. Guess you've got some bad luck over there.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted July 05, 2008 12:44 AM |
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Quote:
Up goes summoned Phoenix, down goes summoned Phoenix. (Wish I had a replay of that one. But ask Phoenixreborn about this..his phoenix didn't even get to act).
Heh, too bad I forgot to save the replay also. My trump card demolished Well you'll have another chance next time. I'll attempt to take down Stronghold with Academy....
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted July 05, 2008 06:19 AM |
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Yeah, but it's not like the record is 5-1 your favor. Keep getting haven on random..I stink at Haven. But to be GOOD I have to learn ALL the towns at least fair.
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Isabel
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Dragonblessed
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posted July 05, 2008 02:47 PM |
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A silly question: What should my hero do if he doesn't have Fear my Roar NOR Horde's Anger? Plain attack?
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kodokbuduk
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 05, 2008 06:46 PM |
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Quote:
A silly question: What should my hero do if he doesn't have Fear my Roar NOR Horde's Anger? Plain attack?
Call of Blood
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ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted July 05, 2008 07:59 PM |
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good info i guess...
don't play stronghold much, but know that in the endgame, if built correctly, they are absolutely frightening to deal with; almost to the point of being invincible.(complete anti-magic, beat out all might factions )
just take expert shatter dark, see who the enemy is... and then hulk smash!
btw does anyone know if the goblin shamans special will affect the rangers' imbue arrow spells?
thank god for fortress
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winterfate
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posted July 05, 2008 10:40 PM |
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@Misty: Choosing Vittorio early helps. If you get Regeneration and Light Magic, say hello to cheap and overly easy creeping.
Cavaliers or Inquistors + Regeneration against casters and most ranged units. The First Aid Tent is optional.
The only problem is that Knights have crummy Spellpower...
Don't feel so bad...I can only really play Sylvan good. (Even though I'm decent with Stronghold and Haven)
@Isabel: kodokbuduk is right.
If you're out of Mana though, you should also have Stunning Blow and Powerful Blow in your arsenal...those two abilities are fun.
Put Powerful Blow on your Centaurs, and then every time they shoot, the hero comes in for a free blow that knocks the victim back 0.1 (10%) on the ATB Bar.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted July 05, 2008 10:55 PM |
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Um isn't it more like 3 - 1? And two of my wins I got Sylvan which is supposedy uber.
I have played a bunch with all the factions in SP mode. Thank goodness I haven't randomly gotten Haven
Er what's the topic...no inferno isn't overpowered IMO on hard multiplayer...it's competitive though. When I lose it's usually to a light dark combo from the spellcasters like Academy and Necro.
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted July 06, 2008 06:26 AM |
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Edited by Mytical at 06:27, 06 Jul 2008.
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Still working on this, but taking a holiday break . Mind is numb hehe. Will finish the rest of the Cries, and other things when I can.
Stunning/Powerful blow really should only be done by Kragh tho. Kragh's special is very interesting. At 20th level without powerful blow he does double damage of what any other 20th level person does with a physical hit. With powerful blow he is considered 23rd level and does 215%. So powerful blow not only gives him 3 levels but an extra 15% on top of that. Though Stunning blow is good for just about everybody . Just not as scary as in Kragh's hands.
Since he also gets to act first (always), swift mind is not needed. He can stun the most important stack in the enemys army. With powerful blow and empathy, he is a scary hero at high level. However, his early game is a lot slower then Haggash or Telsek (spelling?).
As for having no Fear My Roar or Horde's anger. Call of blood or Powerful Blow probably would be your first turns action. Battle Cry isn't bad...if it comes down to it. Nor is Word of the Cheif. Rally Cry if under Necro's Banshee Howl (Though why they are wasting a turn on this is beyond me. Not like with leadership, map bonuses, and Rally Cry you are not going to undo most if not all it's effects). And ... if all the above fails..just pound away at the most dangerous enemy unit. May not do much, but every little bit may help.
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winterfate
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posted July 06, 2008 06:44 AM |
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@Misty: Take your time!
You spelled both of the hero's names correctly.
And, I don't want to imagine Kragh with Excruciating Strike!
(It's bad enough on any other Barbarian. )
Also, I hoped my replays helped out a bit.
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@PhoenixReborn: Felt the need to elaborate your post...
This part:
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And two of my wins I got Sylvan which is supposedy uber...
Well, creeping with Ossir is almost unfair. Only casters and quicker ranged units pose a real threat. Anyone else is just begging to die.
With other heroes, it's a 180 degree turn. Early creeping is tough without Hunters or Destructive Magic.
So, I guess what I'm saying is that while Sylvan is usually considered uber, at the beginning, they are just as vulnerable as the other might dependent factions.
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted July 06, 2008 07:07 AM |
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It's scary alright. The only strike I don't bother giving him is weakening strike (from shatter dark). Even with his special, just not enough oomph.
Some units I like to use Kragh on.
Sylvan - Arcan Archers.
Haven - Crossbowmen/Marksmen, griffins (and upgrades), or Paladins (and such). Depending on my mood .
Academy - Gremlins and upgrades (Can't get my balista if they are stunned). Mages and Upgrades. The Kitties. Djinn (this town has more targets then most).
Necro - Usually don't advise using Kragh against them (Telsek or Haggash is better). If you do, go for vamps.
Fortress - Rune priests(etc) or thanes
Inferno - Succubi, hounds, or stallions. Maybe Pit creatures.
Stronghold - Cyclops, Cheiftans, Sisters.
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