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Adrius
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posted July 02, 2008 10:45 PM

True, if you don't use Mod Manager

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DagothGares
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posted July 03, 2008 02:13 AM

Btw, oblivion supports the anorexic culture. If your character doesn't eat, when it's a vampire, it gets a lot stronger
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted July 03, 2008 11:31 AM

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Btw, oblivion supports the anorexic culture. If your character doesn't eat, when it's a vampire, it gets a lot stronger


And people stop talking with it too.
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ChaosDragon
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posted July 04, 2008 07:18 AM

I'm curious, how come kvatch mission is impossible for lv 40 or more?

I start kvatch mission at lv 42, i use archer with 2 type spell giving 55% chameleon effect. I just stay invisible and sneak attack them forever, and imo it was too easy.

I tried mage too, start kvatch mission at lv 43 mage, i lure them all then i use 2 type spell giving all the weakness effect with 100% magnitude for several seconds and finally blast them with one damaging spell (i use fire spell with radius 20 and 10 dmg), and they all dead in one blast.

Tried both in hardest difficulty, and the result is still the same.

Imo it is not that impossible, it's too easy.

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DagothGares
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posted July 04, 2008 02:03 PM

I was using an hyperbole (yes, I know hard words too)

In Kvatch, at level 40, all the scamps that were there had become daedroth, xivilai and other tough variants. In the central plaza, which is filled with daedroth and atronachs (frost at the very least), I wonder how you found cover (or did you use Joonas's tactic?)

I have difficulty believing that you could beat them with a weakness spell and the fireball spell... But if you did, then

I never liked the archer tactic
It takes waaay too long when striking from the cover of darkness with your daedric bow, wasting glass arrows and your poison. Frankly, I like brutal, indirect tactics
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phoenixreborn
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posted July 04, 2008 03:08 PM

I think it's pretty telling that the thread has turned into a discussion of combat tactics.

DagothGares had some nice posts about the story in Morrowind.  That's why I think it is a superior game to Oblivion.

I think Daggerfall had that potential too but I never got to finish it because it was so buggy...

One part of Oblivion I liked was when you go to the peaceful pseudo-tamriel place on the main quest...but it turned into a typical boss fight...

Morrowind at least had ethical implications.

There were some occasional interesting quests, the painting place etc.

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DagothGares
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posted July 04, 2008 08:47 PM
Edited by DagothGares at 20:48, 04 Jul 2008.

Let it also be said that the dark brotherhood was much more fun than the Morag Tong... In fact, I think that it's the only guild I haven't finished (except for House Telvanni (and actually house hlaalu) (and I killed the Gentleman before I could finish it, but that hardly counts), but w/e)...

I couldn't understand their directions at all... I managed to kill the first 2-3 writs, but after a while, it just felt more of an explorer's guild than an assassin's.
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Adrius
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posted July 04, 2008 09:07 PM

Bah, no fights are hard for me in Oblivion, I just use a bow with my Über poison which I've named "The Sting of Serpents", and yeah, I like cool names for my poisons!

Formula

Imp Gall
Spiddal Stick
Frost Salts
Vampire Dust

Effect

Fire Damage (9 * 37 seconds)
Frost Damage (9 * 38 seconds)
Damage Health (8 * 30 seconds)
Silence (33 seconds)

Also, the bow should be enchanted with Weakness to Poison

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ChaosDragon
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posted July 08, 2008 11:25 AM
Edited by ChaosDragon at 11:38, 08 Jul 2008.

Quote:
I was using an hyperbole (yes, I know hard words too)

In Kvatch, at level 40, all the scamps that were there had become daedroth, xivilai and other tough variants. In the central plaza, which is filled with daedroth and atronachs (frost at the very least), I wonder how you found cover (or did you use Joonas's tactic?)

I have difficulty believing that you could beat them with a weakness spell and the fireball spell... But if you did, then

I never liked the archer tactic
It takes waaay too long when striking from the cover of darkness with your daedric bow, wasting glass arrows and your poison. Frankly, I like brutal, indirect tactics


I didn't find any cover, just casting 2 type chameleon spells, each has 55% chameleon, yeah, it made my char 100% invisible and he can still attack his enemies wihtout being spotted even if he stands in front of all those daedras, and all his attacks are sneak attack as long as both spells is active. Then all of those daedras got sneaked to death by my arrow, i use no poison, just a normal dwarven and elven arrow. In hardest difficulty, if i'm not mistaken, it need 5-7 sneak attacks to kill a xivilai.

Same with the mage, i stack 2 type weakness, both have same effect, all 4 type weakness with 100% magnitude in 20 feet for about 5 sec. After casting both of them twice, i just blast all of them with fire spell with 50 magnitude and 20 feet area of effects, then they all dead. In default difficulty, i need to cast both weakness once, in hardest difficulty, i need to cast both weakness twice.

The archer one is very easy, though not as fun as the mage one, because the mage can one shot all of them.

I have another archer tactic that use normal invisible spell (not chameleon) and summoned creatures, but it's harder than the first one.

I don't know why it's so hard, for me it's too easy, i just abuse spell stacking effect. I never patch my oblivion, some people say in newer version, not all spell stacking work.

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phoenixreborn
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posted July 08, 2008 04:34 PM

Bah.  My characters don't use magic.  Some of them absorb it though.

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DagothGares
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posted July 08, 2008 04:42 PM

To quote this guy:

Switching between the magic and weapons in mid-battle was as smooth and intuitive as shifting from fifth to reverse in a car with a missing gear leaver.

And since I liked the exotic weaponry from the elder scrolls, I sticked with stealth and swords, from then on.
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booboo
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posted July 08, 2008 06:37 PM

From my point of view, both Oblivion and Morrowind are great games, but I like Oblivion better because of the setting. I think Cyrodiil is far better than Morrowind, and I also heart the graphics of the game.

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LadyTaurucis
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posted July 09, 2008 03:07 PM

I've only played Arena (cause it's a free download these days :3) Morrowind, and Oblivion.

I can't decide between MW and OB as my favorite. MW is just... deeper, when it comes to role-playing... I really feel like I'm playing my character, the quests are longer, everything is just laid back and easy-going.

However Oblivion is good if I just want some fast hack and slash action. The quests aren't bad but IMO there weren't enough of them... but one thing I like about Oblivion is how good you can get the game to look

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DagothGares
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posted July 09, 2008 03:12 PM

That's true. I'll give an example from Oblivion which was a bit messed up:

I am near the city of Bruma. I see a demon gate right next to the main gate. Suddenly, demons start pouring out of the gate. There are guardsmen, ready to fight. The demons and guardsmen are fighting a fierce battle. Many guardsmen die and there's just one guy left. I rush in with umbra in my hand and together we slay the last dremora. The guard then sheathes his swird and looks at me and says: Good evening citizen.

Then you're like: geesh, no prob. I mean, come on!
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Adrius
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posted August 10, 2008 03:20 PM

Oblivion screenshots makes really good wallpapers


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posted August 11, 2008 04:56 AM

I have played both Morrowind and Oblivion and I have to say that I really like Morrowind a lot more. The problem with Oblivion is that you have a nice huge open game world, with nothing to do in it that actually really matters. Leveling up, looting dungeons, fighting monsters, and pretty much interacting with the game world have all been taken out of the game.

I mean honestly whats even the point of leveling up when monsters that you were owning when you were level 1, are all the sudden kicking your butt at level 10. It just ruins the immersion of the game world. If I struggle with a wolf at level 1, I want to hack down a whole pack when I am level 40. But alas it is not so.

Looting is not even fun anymore, because honestly you can predict just what treasure you are going to find when you loot at low levels. I want surprises, not the same junk time and time again.

The last thing is that nothing you do actually affects the game world  in any way, shape, or form. You'll go to a town and talk to people who were right near an oblivion gate, and guess what they still say the same stuff. Why not make what you do alter the game world? The quests don't seem to even help, because they are all worthless and Fedex type missions. Honestly! Hire a delivery boy, I want to go hack monsters! At least the quests in Morrowind were interesting! Or when I got bored I could go hack down civilians, loot houses in Morrowind, and rob stores.

To wrap it up, I just stopped playing Oblivion all together after being thrown in jail, making a daring escape, only to be punched down by a civilian just because of how the people are always such higher levels than you. I mean I had a mace and full armor, stuff like that just ruins the game for me.

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Adrius
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posted August 11, 2008 07:56 PM

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I mean honestly whats even the point of leveling up when monsters that you were owning when you were level 1, are all the sudden kicking your butt at level 10. It just ruins the immersion of the game world.
There are mods that add level areas, with some that may only have normal wolves while other areas have Minotaur no matter what level you are.

I've never tried any of them, but if you wanna be über you might wanna check them out.
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Adrius
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posted August 12, 2008 07:33 PM
Edited by Adrius at 19:25, 13 Aug 2008.

Does any of you guys use the "Origin of the Mages Guild" mod?

I've been playing this mod for a while now but I can't find the missions for restructing the Bruma Mages' Guild, the Mages' Council and building the teleporter room, neither can I find the quest for getting the companion, Mary.

I know it's not a mod conflict or anything, since I know that the creator likes to secret mission that are not easy to find.

What's worse is the fact that the guy wants you to make a donation to his site in order to get the guides for the mod, and i don't want to do that...

So do any of you know the way to these quests? I'd really appreciate it...


EDIT: My mistake, I'm simply not patient enough. I waited and waited for several days (in-game) and the missions didn't show up, that's because the scripts took about 15-20 seconds to engage, I just continued to push the wait button and didn't give the game the time it needed. Stupid, stupid Adrius
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Celfious
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posted August 16, 2008 05:12 PM

I got a question about oblivion since I'm considering buying it.

When you go to NPCs do you see a list of 20+ questions which have all generic awnsers you heard from the next NPC??? I hate playing 20 questions to get, NoWhere!!!

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DagothGares
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posted August 16, 2008 05:14 PM

They usually have no more than five options that you can ask them as far as I can remember. The interface in Oblivion is much nicer than morrowind's also it's easier to be a warrior and a mage.

I probably posted this already, but I'lldo it again anyway.
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