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Seraf
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posted July 19, 2008 04:07 PM
Edited by Seraf at 18:27, 19 Jul 2008.

[Request] Zehir unit

Hi everyone, Ive decided to make a creature for NCF, based on Zehir, but I dont know how to trasfer him from hero to normal unit. I have decided what animations to use in battle and retextured him, so I want someone to help me make a creature. Can anyone do that?

Oh, I forgot to mention. It is based on unmounted Zehir)
The animations I have chosen are -
Cast - Mummy
Stir, Death, Hit - ArchMagi
RangedAttack - Matron (Other sound and must look like fireball spell).

I didnt think about stats yet, though I was thinking about no move speed) It is gonna be the strongest caster, maybe tier7-8, doesnt appear in neutral stacks, LOTS of mana and the most powerful spells(Most destructive maybe, Summoning, maybe 1-2 mass blesses also.)
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posted July 20, 2008 09:38 AM

It doesn't work that way, you can't just add an animation of another Creature, unless it fits the skeleton and if it does it'll probably turn out crappy. The best is to use Zehir's default animations.
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posted July 20, 2008 02:56 PM

The trick is that unmounted Zehir has only moving, casting and idle animations. I think that Archmages sceleton doesnt differ greatly from Zehirs(Ill check this later) and the only problem can be with mummy but I think its skeleton is also similar(Ill chexk that one too). At least all of tham are humanoids without any serious differences.
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posted July 20, 2008 06:56 PM

hehe, its a lot harder to find compatible animations. Believe me, I never found one for Agrael Unmounted; his body always contorted and looked broken. He only had an idle anim.

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posted July 21, 2008 08:52 AM

And still, can anyone help me with making a creature of it and ten Ill try to find needed animations? I just cant test it now because unmounted Zehir cant be placed via the Editor and even if I do it, its still a hero and I cant get hit or else))
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posted July 21, 2008 09:02 AM

Just for your knowledge, I had planned a Zehir based NCF already ("Illusionist"), but hell knows when it sees the daylight.
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posted July 21, 2008 09:55 AM
Edited by Seraf at 09:55, 21 Jul 2008.

Ha) I was just thinking of three versions(with upgrades - Wizard - Summoner - Necromancer(in Russian there is a special word but in English there is only "practitioner of black magic" and I dont find it suitable so it'll be Necromancer) Maybe we could do these together)
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posted July 21, 2008 09:57 AM

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in Russian there is a special word but in English there is only "practitioner of black magic" and I dont find it suitable

Warlock?
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posted July 21, 2008 10:09 AM
Edited by Seraf at 10:10, 21 Jul 2008.

Um not actually, if you are interested it is "Chernoknizhnik" in Russian)
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posted July 22, 2008 04:37 PM

... which means ...umm ... Warlock.
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posted July 22, 2008 04:50 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 16:52, 22 Jul 2008.

Yep warlock, necromancer is necromant like in Bulgarian... Chernoknizhnik means Veshter in Bulgarian, which is warlock...
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posted July 22, 2008 05:06 PM

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Um not actually, if you are interested it is "Chernoknizhnik" in Russian)


'Czarnoksiê¿nik' in polish , if you want to do Zehir creature you can have problem because he don't have animation of melee attack.

PS. If you don't know word in english you can use internet translator, for example Google Translator.

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posted July 22, 2008 05:30 PM

do you really think the google translator can translate "Chernoknizhnik" ?
it already has trouble translating from french to english or the contrary

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Seraf
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posted July 23, 2008 08:42 AM
Edited by Seraf at 08:50, 23 Jul 2008.

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necromancer is necromant like in Bulgarian...

So it is in Russian but I just couldnt find a more appropriate word.

Quote:

PS. If you don't know word in english you can use internet translator, for example Google Translator.


Um I tried - Google translated it as "practitioner of black magic"))))

So ok, let it be Warlock then)

I know about animations I just need it to be a creature and then Ill think of possible animations.
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posted July 23, 2008 10:30 AM

In Cercasia - word "Warlock"/"Chernoknighnik" it's "Karakitap" or "Fycatel"

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posted July 23, 2008 07:08 PM

in russian warlock could be said in 2 ways. Chernoknijnik (black booker) or Cheradeii`` (bad mage)
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posted July 23, 2008 07:10 PM

... you sure it's "booker"?
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posted July 23, 2008 07:18 PM

in russian Knijnik is booker,a person who deals with books,As kniga=book
Chornie=black.
Black booker.
Since hebrew is old lenguage,and is primive you have very few words for mage or this kind is : Mechashefa=witch or wizardess. Ball' Ovv=Necromancer or spirit shaman. Kosem or kosemet is sorcer or sorceress. Mechashef is warlock as in hebrew lenguage witch is a female virsion of warlock,while in fact it might be differnt. (which is black+nature magic while warlock is dark+mind magic). ball' ovv can also means conjuerer.
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posted July 23, 2008 08:24 PM
Edited by Seraf at 20:36, 23 Jul 2008.

OMG LOL
I still doubt that booker is right, it looks to me like a person who books tickets( ) but the fact is that this thread is going about nothing now))Men, this thread already has "to delete" status, isnt there anyone who can help my idea already, whom I could ask to tell me via ICQ or MSN or Skype how to do what I want?


Btw in my mind Chernoknishnik is some kind of a ritualist that practises Dark and Destructive magic, all evil powers of the world, and he can also be called a satanist. And a Warlock is still connected to mind control and curses\blesses, so these two mages are a bit different.

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in russian warlock could be said in 2 ways. Chernoknijnik (black booker) or Cheradeii`` (bad mage)

Please, dont mess things up, "Charodei" is just another russian name for "mage", and there is no way that its connected to a certain meaning. Maybe you mean "Koldun", which really can mean dark sorcerer, but "Charodei"... Its even closer to a white mage in its meaning, not dark, but this can be said differently.

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posted July 24, 2008 12:11 AM

i think kaldun is more mage like while cheradei has negetive conotetion.
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