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xerox
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posted August 03, 2008 08:30 PM |
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MMORPGS have RP in it. I have a character or two on a ROLEPLAYING server...
You cant always win in MMORPGS either 
You can NEVER win in a MMORPG because it never ends
MMORPGs (like Asheera said) is A LOT more teamwork with REAL PEOPLE then in a single player RPG where you work with COMPUER-CONTROLLED NPCs.
MMORPGs tend to be realistic too
You can sleep, drink eat etc.
All races have unique abilities (like the Night Elves Shadowmeld, Orcs Blood Fury, Dwarves Stoneskin and Blood Elves Mana Tap).
You can of course defeat enemies that are weaker then you and use speical tricks and tactics on harder enemies.
There are classes. What is so unrealistic about classes?
Is it unrealistic to be a Mage in a fantasy world? Or a Warrior or a Priest?
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Drako_the_noob
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posted August 03, 2008 09:12 PM |
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What is so unrealistic about classes?
Is it unrealistic to be a Mage in a fantasy world? Or a Warrior or a Priest?
Mages are MUST be in Fantasy, but...
Its unrealistic, that only Mages and Priests can use magic. Wariors shoud also have a VERY LIMITED ability to cast Mage's (Teleport, Slow, Haste, Fireball) or Priest's (Heal, Regenation) spells.
Also, you shoud be able to use spells, only if you learned that magic. Do you know why most of mages are old and have beard? Becuse it tooks more than 20 years to master a kind of Magic.
Also, there shoud be people who have natural talent or natural ability to cast magic (aka born mages)
And armors... Why cannot everyone use any kind of armors?
Mages can also waer armor, but it limits their magic abilities.
And thieves. They shoud be also able to wear armor, but be unable to use their abilities.
And about classes. I find them unrealistic, becuse you have to LEARN in order to use sword, cast magic, be thief, etc.
In Lord of the Rings, and other forum roleplaying fantasy games, you DON'T have the natural ability to casts spells or use swords.
I prefer the way that Heroes of Might and Magic 4 had. Everyone can learn any kind of skills, spells.
And I think that Single player RPGs are more enjoyable than MMORPGs, becuse people aren't rush to be level 80 and kill everyone.
Maybe, if there would be an MMORPG which has got resrictions on leveling... and maybe if there would be able to make children, construct weapons, invent new spells, etc.
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Asheera
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posted August 03, 2008 09:20 PM |
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Also, you shoud be able to use spells, only if you learned that magic. Do you know why most of mages are old and have beard? Becuse it tooks more than 20 years to master a kind of Magic.
You can't be serious, I mean that's just your opinion, and this is different from a world to another.
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Daystar
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posted August 03, 2008 11:46 PM |
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I agree, you can do simple magic after only a few months of work. And that's not with constant study, that's just reading a few books when your parents aren't home.
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xerox
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posted August 04, 2008 12:39 AM |
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Because a warrior is not trained to use magic but trained to improve his combat skills instead? -.-
In some MMORPGS there are warriors with magic (Paladins, Death Knights, Spellbreakers).
Also why would all wizards have beard?
Like they said, its diffrent in all fantasies. Just because they have that in LOTR and M&M doesnt mean they have it in all fantasy worlds -.-
What do you mean about armors?
In MMORPGS a warrior can use all armor types but its more usefull for them to wear plate armour then cloth or leather armor.
And in many MMORPGS you dont learn to cast spells, you learn to stealth, you learn to teleport and you learn to use diffrent kinds of weapons and in some cases armor.
And why do you think everybody rushes to level 60/70/80?
Some people dont rush but try to enjoy the game. For example people on roleplaying servers can take several months of them just to level 20 levels (depending on level).
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Drako_the_noob
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posted August 04, 2008 09:11 AM |
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Currently, RPG is about your life in the Fantasy world, not only fight and fight.
If you ask an NPC that "Who are you?", he/she answers he's an elf/orc/dwarf... But if you ask a real player in MMORPGs, he/she answers who is he in reality. Doesen't sound very RPGish...
And about team work... in single player RPGs you controll 4-8 characters. In MMORPG you are one person who acts like a superman. What do you prefer? To kill everyone with only one character, or complette quests with 4-8 character?
And Paper-Pencil RPGs are ultimately better than MMORPGs. In Paper-Pencil RPGs its not only fight, fight, fight. Paper-Pencil RPGs mainly focus on quests.
And about Wariors and Mages.
Mages shoud be also able to wear armor! They are also normal mortals, just like wariors, so they shoud be able to wear any kind of armor.
And warior. Mages are also mortals. Wariors cannot be trained in Magic? Why? Only becuse they are Wariors? Unrealistic. We shoud allow them to use limited magic.
If a Fantasy RPG would be realistic, then...
-Every classes would be able to use ANY kind of weapons, and waer ANY kind of armor.
-Every classes would be able to use magic, if they learn it (Like in Homm 4)
-There wouldn't be resrictions for any races, I mean any race can chose any class.
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Darkshadow
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posted August 04, 2008 11:19 AM |
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-Every classes would be able to use ANY kind of weapons, and waer ANY kind of armor.
Mages are physically too weak to use any good weapons and warrior will have trouble wearing magic sensitive robes.
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-Every classes would be able to use magic, if they learn it (Like in Homm 4)
No, that would cause imbalance, this sin't mortal kombat.
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-There wouldn't be resrictions for any races, I mean any race can chose any class.
Cmon, Tauren don't really make good rogues.
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mamgaeater
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posted August 04, 2008 12:59 PM |
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If you ask an NPC that "Who are you?", he/she answers he's an elf/orc/dwarf... But if you ask a real player in MMORPGs, he/she answers who is he in reality. Doesen't sound very RPGish...
maybe that is because you didn't ask an npc or log on to a roleplaying server.
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xerox
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posted August 04, 2008 03:48 PM |
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Currently, RPG is about your life in the Fantasy world, not only fight and fight.
If you ask an NPC that "Who are you?", he/she answers he's an elf/orc/dwarf... But if you ask a real player in MMORPGs, he/she answers who is he in reality. Doesen't sound very RPGish...
Uhm roleplaying servers? I play one of my characters in one and I would like to say, a lot more "roleplaying" stuff happens in then lets say "Fable" or "Elder Scrolls".
For example, last night a guy from the "House of Nobles" (all persons here are real players and not NPCs) and askes me to pay additional taxes.
I own a Tavern in that city and he promised me that if I payed additional taxes for them (one gold per week) they would send out guards to protect the tavern and supplies to help us cook food etc (we have waiters, cooks, barkeeps and bounchers etc).
However I didnt like to pay additional taxes because I though that the nobles were corrupt bastards.
Suddenly one of his messengers come in.
He tells her to tell the boss of the House of Nobles that me and my tavern refuses to pay taxes.
Just some example of life in a MMORPG on a roleplaying server.
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And about team work... in single player RPGs you controll 4-8 characters. In MMORPG you are one person who acts like a superman. What do you prefer? To kill everyone with only one character, or complette quests with 4-8 character?
Sorry, I have never heard of any RPG were you control 8 characters at once. However in MMORPGS you always have five people when you do dungeons and always 10, 25 or even 40 people that needs to teamwork to complete a raid instance.
Teamwork is one of the most important aspects in a MMORPG. My guild skipped a boss in the raid dungeon called Karazhan just because it required über good teamwork and nobody could do anything wrong.
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And Paper-Pencil RPGs are ultimately better than MMORPGs. In Paper-Pencil RPGs its not only fight, fight, fight. Paper-Pencil RPGs mainly focus on quests.
Funny that you said, because when you level up to 70 you basically only do quests and some dungeons (which are 5-man and needs to have good teamwork).
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And about Wariors and Mages.
Mages shoud be also able to wear armor! They are also normal mortals, just like wariors, so they shoud be able to wear any kind of armor.
And warior. Mages are also mortals. Wariors cannot be trained in Magic? Why? Only becuse they are Wariors? Unrealistic. We shoud allow them to use limited magic.
But it makes no sense or use for a Mage to use heavy armor! It would just be in the way. Also like someone else said Mages are not physically strong enough for that.
A Mage would just cast some magical armor spell on himself!
Why is it unrealstic about the Warrior issue?
They trained to become warriors, not as spellcasters. They focus on improving their melee combat skills, not magic skills.
And again, in MMORPGS there are classes that are some kind of hybrid between warriors and spellcasters.
For example: Shamans, Paladins and Death Knights.
And in the lore (history) Spellbreakers.
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-There wouldn't be resrictions for any races, I mean any race can chose any class.
Because that class did never exist in that race culture?
Or they simply dont like that class and knowledge for good reasons (Night Elves in Warcraft comes to mind).
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Asheera
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posted August 04, 2008 03:51 PM |
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It's funny that you say:Quote:
And about Wariors and Mages.
Mages shoud be also able to wear armor! They are also normal mortals, just like wariors, so they shoud be able to wear any kind of armor.
And warior. Mages are also mortals. Wariors cannot be trained in Magic? Why? Only becuse they are Wariors? Unrealistic. We shoud allow them to use limited magic.
If a Fantasy RPG would be realistic, then...
-Every classes would be able to use ANY kind of weapons, and waer ANY kind of armor.
-Every classes would be able to use magic, if they learn it (Like in Homm 4)
-There wouldn't be resrictions for any races, I mean any race can chose any class.
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And Paper-Pencil RPGs are ultimately better than MMORPGs.
One of the most popular Pen-And-Paper RPGs is the D&D itself, which, believe it or not, HAS classes with restrictions. If you want a fighter that also can cast basic spells, why not take a Paladin for example? I don't understand
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Galev
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posted August 04, 2008 04:35 PM |
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World of Szarcraft
Hungarian emprise^^" [don't ask me about the meaning either]
Drako, calm down, don't give Hungarians a bad name (joking only )
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Lord_Evil
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posted August 11, 2008 06:59 PM |
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Asheera
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posted August 11, 2008 07:12 PM |
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conclusion: World of Warcraft or any other MMRPGs = 
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xerox
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posted August 11, 2008 10:50 PM |
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*sigh*
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Over himself, over his own
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Lord_Evil
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posted August 11, 2008 11:14 PM |
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*sigh*
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Does that means you agree with me?
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xerox
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posted August 11, 2008 11:28 PM |
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No it means I think you are pathetic.
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Over himself, over his own
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Lord_Evil
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posted August 12, 2008 08:03 AM |
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No it means I think you are pathetic.
Im not going to open an argoument about us calling each other names, but the fact that you are insulting other people just to prove that WoW is a good game and that you are right is only a proof that you are addicted to WoW and its bad for you.
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Mytical
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posted August 12, 2008 08:31 AM |
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Well I can't say that MMORPG'S do not have roleplay. In fact on the right servers they have excellent roleplaying. Unfortunately it also has people who are anti-roleplayers on the same server. Why? I have NO clue. There are plenty of non-roleplaying options. It's hard to immerse yourself into a character when you are hearing: LoL, rofl, omg you n00b, ph3ar m3, etc.
When roleplaying you HAVE to leave out the leet speak. Just doesn't fit. Well in (()) it can be somewhat tolerated, but that should be used as little as possible. One of the reasons to me that roleplaying in MMORPG is just not as fun as in pen and paper. Though trust me there can be some people who spoil that also.
WoW, and others are ok, but they quickly become victims of 2 things. Either the BBD (Bigger Better Deal) syndrom, or the BTDT (Been there Done that) syndrom. After about the 1000 time of killing the same creature it is the BTDT, you grow bored of it. Then there comes the BBD. You HAVE to get the better equipment to fight the stronger monsters, to get the better equipment. So you have to keep getting better and better things just to keep up.
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DagothGares
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posted August 14, 2008 01:52 AM |
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but the fact that you are insulting other people just to prove that WoW is a good game and that you are right is only a proof that you are addicted to WoW and its bad for you.
That's a back-handed comment, there. Just saying that he's addicted and running off like that. I thought we all share some level of addiction, since the point we had joined this forum.
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Drako_the_noob
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posted August 24, 2008 03:17 PM |
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World of Warcraft or any other MMRPGs =
Yeah, I totaly agree with you.
Also, something to Read:
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_addiction]Read about "Kocka" people[/url]
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