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TheDeath
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posted July 28, 2008 08:21 PM

Actually it's pretty easy to cover it up, since people don't believe even if they would show an alien, they would think it's some kind of joke or fake edit or something. Yeah, it's easy to cover it up, trust me

Also, it's not just "one" astronaut, he didn't actually talked to aliens, but he briefed through the stuff there. Also, I already put another link for a different astronaut, and even the Roswell story. Too much stuff to be a coincidence.

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posted July 28, 2008 11:28 PM
Edited by xerox at 23:31, 28 Jul 2008.

Why would Darwin cry by aliens?
He talked about life on Earth, not in space.


I would love to see aliens btw. So exciting it would be!
It would be so interesting to see if you could communicate with them ,  and tell them about their religions, culture, planet and life!

But before we explore space we should explore the oceans.

Im convinced that there is a Kraken (yes I know they recently found Colossal squids) and other huge beasts (omg so scary).
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posted July 28, 2008 11:30 PM

Okay, but if you take the average bald, skinny alien thingie with those fragile, long fingers, I think there's at the very least a chance that nature would've selected for the bin.
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posted July 28, 2008 11:31 PM
Edited by xerox at 00:01, 29 Jul 2008.

Why does a race need to look good?

Cockroaches are one of the most successful speices of all, and they are ugly and are insects


And like I said before, I highly doubt they look like that


Omg I cant post more in 24 hours... why!!!???
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posted July 28, 2008 11:33 PM

I don't mean that they need to look good, but everything about their appearance suggests that they are impractical aka doomed by natural selection.
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posted July 29, 2008 12:36 AM

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I don't mean that they need to look good, but everything about their appearance suggests that they are impractical aka doomed by natural selection.


I don't understand why thay are doomed? Fragile? If you think about it, humans are very fragile. We can't defeat predators without tools/technology of some sorts. First we had rocks to throw, then spears, then swords and so on. Those tools we used required sophisticated hand-eye-brain coordination - and our evolution led to us having bigger brains and hands with great dexterity as a result.



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posted July 29, 2008 01:22 AM

Yes, but say for example that we have hair and if we don't have hair,we wear clothes. If you're somehow hairless and have a big body surface, you don't stroll around naked on a meadow in the middle of the night. Let's just say that in that kind of an environment nature's willing to deselect those that are impractical.

You can say that they life in a different environment, but for that to be true they should live either underwater or in a warm, soft climate with soft undergrowth...

And even if that's true, you're not going to land naked on an unknown planet where there are huge amounts of radiation.
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posted July 29, 2008 08:53 AM

That does not change the fact that humanity's "setting" as furless, weak and clawless is highly impractical. As the crown of earth's evolution, we pretty much suck at the physical side


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posted July 29, 2008 09:28 AM
Edited by TitaniumAlloy at 09:29, 29 Jul 2008.

Moonlith:
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You call it nonsensical snide, but would it really be too much to state a sentient race, capable of travelling in space, would look at our civilisation in a simular fashion how we would view prehistoric tribes in Amazon regions?

No.
If only you had said this we wouldn't had a problem.

But we don't laugh at Amazon tribes lol.



Doomforge:
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99% atheists believe in aliens. I guess you simply have to believe in something. If it's not that "stupid" God, it is little green men. Take your pick!


wahey nice statistic



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That does not change the fact that humanity's "setting" as furless, weak and clawless is highly impractical. As the crown of earth's evolution, we pretty much suck at the physical side


What do you mean by this statement.
At the physical side?
Not every thing is physical. In a naked one on one cage fight against a grizzly a man would get torn to pieces. But how often do people get killed by grizzlies? Not very often, because most of us are intelligent enough and have the technology to avoid this situation.

As for the evolutionary traits of furless, weak and clawless.... this is just nonsense. They are clearly not impractical as we have evolved to become the most successful species out of all we have seen (sure someone will go "no we r dum lolol" but whatever). We don't need claws because we have tools and nimble fingers and opposable thumbs. ...



Dagoth:
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I don't mean that they need to look good, but everything about their appearance suggests that they are impractical aka doomed by natural selection.

I agree. That's why saying they look like that kinda puts me off a bit.
This guy has watched "Signs" too many times lol


Ghosts is a stupid topic that doesn't belong in this thread.
Go watch cartoons instead.


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posted July 29, 2008 09:39 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 09:40, 29 Jul 2008.

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What do you mean by this statement.
At the physical side?
Not every thing is physical. In a naked one on one cage fight against a grizzly a man would get torn to pieces. But how often do people get killed by grizzlies? Not very often, because most of us are intelligent enough and have the technology to avoid this situation.


But why can't we have both? You could have fur, for example, would that hinder your intelligence? Nonsense. But you don't, which makes you cloth-dependant.

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As for the evolutionary traits of furless, weak and clawless.... this is just nonsense. They are clearly not impractical as we have evolved to become the most successful species out of all we have seen (sure someone will go "no we r dum lolol" but whatever). We don't need claws because we have tools and nimble fingers and opposable thumbs. ...


Again your missing my point. Why must evolution choose between intelligence and "physical traits", why not both? Don't you feel we would be more "complete" with better senses (except sight, out senses are pretty poor", higher physical strength, better stamina, fur so we don't die out of cold? Like, say, intelligent deathclaws from Fallout 2 Face it, we have the intelligence, which is far superior to any other trait, but we lack everything else apes, our closest relatives, outperform us badly in strength, agility and keen senses, and while we can safely say our "physical side" deteriorated due to our lifestyle, it has never been too high, even when people were pretty much dumb and wild.

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posted July 29, 2008 01:21 PM

What most people don't realize is that all your "common" and "traditional" alien stories with "green" little guys might have been inspired by REAL stories about aliens -- it is why it's not so improbable, what is so hard to understand?

As for cover up, you see, it's EXTREMELY EASY to do it, because people don't believe. Even DIRECTLY showing them an alien spacecraft to them will not suffice, they'll say it's a fake video or a human made "toy" or some stealth airplane or something... see how easy it is to cover it up? Most agencies know it, and they're happy they have this advantage.

Don't let them fool you!

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apes, our closest relatives, outperform us badly in strength, agility and keen senses...
Tell that to Bruce Lee...

...or Chuck Norris

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posted July 29, 2008 01:51 PM

Yes might be . That is like 1% chance

And if aliens were small green men with huge heads then maybe their body is useful on their planet or have other "hidden functions".


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posted July 29, 2008 02:09 PM

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Yes might be . That is like 1% chance
So basically, you're telling me that being inspired from "mythology" (for example) has a 1% chance, right? So when we see Griffins in games, we don't assume they're inspired from mythology, that's like 1% chance

Similar with aliens. Mythology are "stories" as much as the green little men aliens are stories. Maybe they are true, some information was leaked, and people thought "what a cool idea", without necessarily knowing it's true!

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posted July 29, 2008 02:14 PM

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Again your missing my point. Why must evolution choose between intelligence and "physical traits", why not both?


There is no "evolutionary push" for our physical traits to improve, because our intelligence already is capable of providing us survivability. Evolution works on a "need" basis.
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posted July 29, 2008 02:21 PM

I never said anything about mythology
If you meant Orcs then you fail.

Orcs were invented by Tolkien, they dont exist in mythology.
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posted July 29, 2008 02:22 PM

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Evolution works on a "need" basis.
I wonder where you got that idea from

Do you think evolution somehow "thinks" and is able to "judge" whether we need something or not?
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posted July 29, 2008 02:28 PM

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I never said anything about mythology
If you meant Orcs then you fail.
Why Orcs? Did I say anything about Orcs? I said Griffins.

BTW: Orcs were also inspired from mythology, see?

What I meant was that some cover up information might have been LEAKED, then people took it as a "nice idea" and made the green aliens in fantasy or science fiction, even though they did not know it was true.

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posted July 29, 2008 02:32 PM
Edited by xerox at 14:53, 29 Jul 2008.

No they were not. Orcs didnt exist in any mythology.
Elves did, Griffins did, Dwarves, Trolls did, Giants did even Ogres did but not Orcs.
And I never said anything about a Griffin


Simple, I think the idea that the governemts would hide aliens and that they have UFOs, are small green men with big heads and kidnap people and rape them is completly silly and I cant belive how anybody could belive in it.




edit: Cannot post in 24 hours again. I begining to think im additicted to the forums
Posting to much spam lol.
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posted July 29, 2008 02:34 PM

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And I never said anything about a Griffin
I did and you replied to my post, no?

Also I never said Orcs existed in mythology, but rather they were inspired by mythology. For example, the Griffin was inspired by a Lion and an Eagle. See?

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posted July 29, 2008 02:43 PM
Edited by Minion at 14:44, 29 Jul 2008.

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Evolution works on a "need" basis.
I wonder where you got that idea from

Do you think evolution somehow "thinks" and is able to "judge" whether we need something or not?


No, don't mean that. We develop traits that we need, not just all traits. Otherwise we would also see infrared, we could sense the gravitational fields of objects, we could change the colour of our skins to camouflage etc. We don't get all traits and become superspecies, we get something to cope with, something that lets us survive. Different species have different ways to survive. None has them all.
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