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meroe
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posted September 16, 2013 10:43 PM |
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I don't mean to be dismissive. And Azzie has already spanked me for being bad.
But the truth, for me is that sex is the most truly intimate thing you can do with someone. Knowing that your partner forsakes all others and you alone have his heart to yourself, is something you won't understand. With your set up, you have no true intimacy nor exclusivity with your partner. You are just one of the rota/the few.
And I find it disrespectful to 'share' yourself with more than one person.
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Meroe is definetely out, sweet
as she sounds sometimes, she'd
definetely castrate you with a
rusted razror and forcefeed
your genitals to you in a
blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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Azagal
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posted September 16, 2013 10:45 PM |
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And Azzie has already spanked me for being bad.
That's what I'm here for .
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OhforfSake
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posted September 16, 2013 10:46 PM |
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But isn't that just because you're raised as a catholic, while mvass uses reasoning and logic to deduct what he wants?
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meroe
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posted September 16, 2013 10:48 PM |
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Edited by meroe at 22:54, 16 Sep 2013.
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Azagal said:
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And Azzie has already spanked me for being bad.
That's what I'm here for.
Yes Forfy I was raised a Catholic. But I am what is known as a bad, bad, bad lapsed Catholic 
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Meroe is definetely out, sweet
as she sounds sometimes, she'd
definetely castrate you with a
rusted razror and forcefeed
your genitals to you in a
blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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Azagal
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posted September 16, 2013 10:50 PM |
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Just to put it out there: It is perfectly reasonable to not be polyamorous while still being a perfectly reasonable person. I think artu already helped make that point even though he drove it more in the emotion direction of things.
And while I can't speak for meroe, I believe it comes from the fact that she is a very passionate womanly woman. Not because some celibate nun told her.
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artu
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posted September 16, 2013 11:01 PM |
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artu:If my girlfriend broke up with me, it would take me some time to get rid of those feelings, but I eventually would. Most people get over their heartbreak in time, though I'd probably be faster than most. The thing is, rational people are better at arranging and navigating their feelings. You can experience the emotion of love very deeply and powerfully, and yet still be perfectly rational about it. I feel love deeply, but only when it would be appropriate for me to do so. My feelings aren't any weaker for me being able to identify their root causes and eliminate them, if necessary.
And I really don't see what skipping music and translating Keats with a computer has to do with any of this.
Overall, I think intellect and emotional depth are linked, they evolve together not against each other. But there are exceptional SITUATIONS in which your emotions and intellect (the rational thing to do) contradict. In such situations, it would be quite hard to just kill your emotions because they are irrational. And knowing their root causes has nothing to do with it, I think it's safe to say everybody, even the most stupid man knows the root cause of heartbreak. However, you still talk about emotions as if they can surgically be removed, which leads me to think you underestimate them. The examples of music and Keats are just signs and clues to me about the subject. They show how you perceive art and how you perceive art is a (although circumstantial) clue about your emotional depth. Don't get me wrong, this is not because you are polyamorous, as I've said earlier, I got no categorical objection to that. It's just the way you express how you handle it, that makes me think you assume emotions can be controlled with almost milimetric precision and that kind of means you're either a genius or not very massive when it comes to emotions. I don't think you're a genius.
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mvassilev
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posted September 16, 2013 11:17 PM |
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JJ:
The people I'm thinking of are a few decades too young to have been hippies. Not all of us are older than 50. 
Meroe:
We have intimacy - as you said, sex is very intimate. We don't have exclusivity, nor do we want it. It may be hard to imagine, but that's how it is. Don't assume that my feelings are weaker for it.
artu:
The stupid man knows about the cause of heartbreak, but it doesn't occur to him to deal with it rationally. Knowing the cause of something won't help you if you don't know how to use your knowledge. Also, it's one thing to know in the sense of "if someone asked me, I'd be able to answer", and another in the sense of "I actually understand what's going on and what it means, including its implications", and the latter is needed for proper analysis.
To be clear, not even I can get rid of every conflicting emotion instantly. A few are more resilient. But once you realize that it's a bad emotion and you shouldn't have it, it should be gone after a day or two.
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Doomforge
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posted September 17, 2013 11:22 AM |
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Well the reason I'm not interested in polyamory or group sex is somewhat practical. Like having multiple cars - if I enjoy one of them the most, I want to drive it all the time. Who needs inferior options and for what?
Of course one may say that the analogy is bad because you can't drive multiple cars at the same time but you can have group sex. Well, since I'm not interested in men, all I could have is two or more girls, and let's be blunt - one of them would most likely turn me on more and the other would just end up distracting me in the end.
I simply enjoy putting 100% of "resources" in the best option and consider the rest a distraction and waste of time.
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posted September 17, 2013 05:30 PM |
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But isn't that just because you're raised as a catholic, while mvass uses reasoning and logic to deduct what he wants?
You got it right, love is 100% logic.
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OhforfSake
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posted September 17, 2013 06:06 PM |
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Zenofex said:
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But isn't that just because you're raised as a catholic, while mvass uses reasoning and logic to deduct what he wants?
You got it right, love is 100% logic.
Whats love got to do with it?
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 17, 2013 06:47 PM |
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You obviously don't get cars DF.
I have multiple, naturally they're for different purposes. I also have a motorcycle, roadbicycle, mountain bicycle, rollerblades, skiis, offtrack skiis, snowshoes, canoe, two boats and I can also walk.
It's about the state of mind, state of mind man!
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Smithey
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posted September 17, 2013 07:16 PM |
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LOL.. rationality and love in the same spectrum... Now thats funny
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posted September 21, 2013 07:19 PM |
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Smithey said:
LOL.. rationality and love in the same spectrum... Now thats funny
No, that's Mvass
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meroe
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posted September 21, 2013 07:28 PM |
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Yes well lets give Mvass a little time in this polyamorous set up before he gives his final judgement.
I very much doubt he will end up in the same position as he started, once it actually happens. Its very easy to claim your stance on something you haven't yet experienced.
But regardless of the fact that I believe Mvass is being led up the garden path, I really wish him well. I think soon enough he will discover that not everything can be controlled by rationality, certainly not multiple people's emotions.
So I say lets treat this like an experiment and give Mvass a couple of years in his polyamorous utopia, and then trust him to tell us the truth.
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Meroe is definetely out, sweet
as she sounds sometimes, she'd
definetely castrate you with a
rusted razror and forcefeed
your genitals to you in a
blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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Fauch
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posted October 15, 2013 03:49 PM |
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mvass said:
"Primary" and "secondary" aren't that rigid of terms. As far as they apply to us, "primary" means a partner that is prioritized and with whom you live and plan your life, and "secondary" means a partner with whom you're in a relationship, but with less commitment. To illustrate, if a primary wants to spend more time with me, and that means spending less time with a secondary, the primary's desire takes precedence. If a secondary wants to me to move away with them, but a primary wants me to stay, I stay. Also, my primary is the person I'll marry and with whom I'll have a child. If it helps, think of "primary" as being similar to a partner in a monogamous relationship (minus the monogamy), and "secondary" as a close friend with whom you have a less committed romantic relationship.
I'm curious, how do you actually deal with that? from what I see, primary and secondary spots are shared by wife, children, and boss, and you already don't have enough of 24h a day for them all. so you would see your secondary partner only once in a blue moon?
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mvassilev
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posted October 15, 2013 04:41 PM |
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You make time? It's not like people don't have social lives.
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Fauch
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posted October 15, 2013 05:49 PM |
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does social life refer to people with who we pretend to have relationships?
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mvassilev
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posted October 15, 2013 06:12 PM |
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No, it refers to people with whom we actually have relationships, whether romantic or friendly. Believe it or not, some people who have jobs also have friends whom they see often.
I don't know why you're so cynical.
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Fauch
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posted October 15, 2013 08:08 PM |
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but friend and partner isn't the same thing?
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Ghost
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Therefore I am
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posted October 15, 2013 09:12 PM |
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No!
Love lose reason
Example of take tattoo
Adam!
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