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Ebonheart
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posted June 17, 2014 03:18 PM |
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This time I turned off the volume Ohforfsake, just to be on the safe side.
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mvassilev
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posted June 17, 2014 05:38 PM |
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meroe said:
Mvass just does not understand love and devotion.
If I were a different kind of person, I'd get mad at this, but instead I'll say that the ones who don't understand love and devotion fully are the ones who think that polyamory and love are incompatible.
Edit: In saying that they don't understand it fully doesn't mean they don't experience it, only that they don't understand that it's perfectly compatible with loving multiple people.
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fred79
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posted June 17, 2014 05:48 PM |
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted June 17, 2014 06:11 PM |
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mvassilev said:
Just as it's possible to love several friends or several children, it's possible to love several romantic partners, without it taking anything away from any of them.
I'd like to point out that there is never equal amounts of love for children, friends or lovers. There are always favourites.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted June 17, 2014 06:17 PM |
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Quote:
There are always favourites.
Exactly. 
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fred79
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posted June 17, 2014 06:18 PM |
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JoonasTo said:
I'd like to point out that there is never equal amounts of love for children, friends or lovers. There are always favourites.
goddamn, this. this so hard. x1,000,000.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted June 17, 2014 06:51 PM |
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But his argument isn't being equally loved JoonesTo, he says he IS the favorite.
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mvassilev
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posted June 17, 2014 06:54 PM |
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^That too. I am the primary, and her having secondaries doesn't take anything away from me, no more than her having close friends would.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted June 17, 2014 06:56 PM |
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It wasn't an argument against mvass. Not everything has to be conflicting artu.
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Minion
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posted June 17, 2014 07:09 PM |
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Mvass relationship gets thumps up from me. Yeah polyamory is not for me , but I wish people would understand that love comes in many shapes and forms. Very arrogant to tell someone that "they don't know love".
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OhforfSake
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Initiate
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posted June 17, 2014 07:14 PM |
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Agreed! I fully support minion's suggestion of punishment!
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted June 17, 2014 07:37 PM |
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JoonasTo said:
It wasn't an argument against mvass. Not everything has to be conflicting artu.
Well, you directly quoted a specific sentence of him, a sentence where he clearly defends his position against a counter-argument, so, I wouldn't say it was far fetched:
JoonasTo said:
mvassilev said:
Just as it's possible to love several friends or several children, it's possible to love several romantic partners, without it taking anything away from any of them.
I'd like to point out that there is never equal amounts of love for children, friends or lovers. There are always favourites.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted June 17, 2014 08:05 PM |
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I took it out of that context for a reason.
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meroe
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posted June 17, 2014 08:10 PM |
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The idea that I would be referred to as a 'primary' in a relationship and not see that as an insult, is beyond me.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted June 17, 2014 08:54 PM |
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meroe said:
The idea that I would be referred to as a 'primary' in a relationship and not see that as an insult, is beyond me.
But if you're a best friend you're not insulted but rather flattered.
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posted June 18, 2014 03:58 AM |
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I cleaned the thread. Please keep the spam and junk posts in the VW.
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meroe
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posted June 18, 2014 03:32 PM |
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JoonasTo said:
meroe said:
The idea that I would be referred to as a 'primary' in a relationship and not see that as an insult, is beyond me.
But if you're a best friend you're not insulted but rather flattered.
True Joonas, very true 
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The_Gootch
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posted June 27, 2014 09:51 AM |
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Interesting. There is a fair argument from the poly community that goes something like this: In the animal kingdom there are very few species that mate for life, or engage in consensual monogomy. Human beings aren't one of them and monogomy is unnatural.
Then they might point at divorce statistics, or offer anecdotal stories about how sex with just one person gets to be really @$×!ing tedious and boring after five, ten, or fifty years. And since we fantasize about sex with multiple partners, why not just be honest with and discuss boundaries that work for each other? It sure beats dishonest behavior in the form of cheating, which is pretty much a big eff you to your partner where you're telling them, "For me, but not for thee."
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meroe
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posted June 27, 2014 03:45 PM |
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Or we could always show the animal kingdom a thing or two and practice what we humans like to call 'self control'. And show some respect to our partners.
If people want to have sex with many different partners, they can. You can just stop pretending that your relationship is the same as a monogamous one or even better.
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rusted razror and forcefeed
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mvassilev
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posted June 27, 2014 08:43 PM |
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I don't find the "monogamy is difficult" argument particularly persuasive, because for all the unhappy marriages that end in divorce, there are plenty of stable, happy marriages where no one is even remotely thinking of cheating. I could be monogamous if I needed to be, though it wouldn't be quite as good as polyamory. The "monogamy is difficult" argument is one of the weaker arguments for polyamory, IMO. Though the point of "it's better to be honest than to cheat" is a good one.Quote:
Or we could always show the animal kingdom a thing or two and practice what we humans like to call 'self control'. And show some respect to our partners.
There's nothing disrespectful about polyamory, if that's what you're implying.
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