I think I'm with Doomforge on this issue, at least partially. Take out the specific thing he doesn't like: drinking. Why would you be with someone who acts in a way you dislike? It'd be like if MVass suddenly fell in love with a socialist girl who wanted to go to a goat-bartering system.
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Oh man, MM must have wanted the earth to rise up and swallow him. It's until you realize how much fun your friends had with your awkward expressions Yeah that sucks a bit, better to be at someone's home if you are to drink and that someone having a high tolerance level
Wow Joonas, they just come to you Looking forward to your story, glad to see you are holding up well.
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Well, it's like "humans can lick too". It's metaphorical.
No, seriously, many of my friends are mature.
Oh, and Doom - I realized what your problem is. You're looking for something that doesn't exist. If I understand correctly, the following three attributes are part of what you want in a girl:
1. Young
2. Mature
3. Not a nerd
It is not too difficult finding girls that fit any two of these attributes. But it is impossible to find someone who is all three: young mature girls are nerds (always, in my experience), mature non-nerds are never young, and young non-nerds are not mature.
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Are you serious....? Do you honestly believe that Teenagers can't be mature? Please define "Teenager". If you mean 13-16 year olds I can sort of understand your statement if I refuse to think it through more than once. Or do you actually include >16 year olds in that "Teenager"?
I know quite a few 15-16 year olds who are much more mature than many >20 year olds I know. And they're hardly exceptions. It all depends on the enviroment you grow up in.
EDIT:
And sorry mvass...
Quote:But it is impossible to find someone who is all three: young mature girls are nerds (always, in my experience), mature non-nerds are never young, and young non-nerds are not mature.
there ar young girls who are mature. And being mature doesn't come with geekeness. But I can see how they are hard to find if you look among 15-16 year olds... Come on Doom... just go for older chicks. Let's say 18?
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
Well, my GF's 18, more mature than at least half the adults I know, and far from a nerd.
Opposites attract, I suppose ____________
"Let me tell you what the blues
is. When you ain't got no
money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
Well, I'm using "nerd" in a loose sense. Not necessarily an actual nerd - just not one of the high-maintenence ones and not one of the dumb stoner ones.
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Well that's one hell of a loose sense
Welcome to Earth, population nerds and stoners
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"Let me tell you what the blues
is. When you ain't got no
money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
I don't mind geekness, in terms of character. Boring =/= nerd.
Bak: Opposites repel for me, definitely. I don't put that much value into age, unless it's lower than 22, to be honest. 15-16 just do have the extra bonus of feeling, uhh, fresh, but it's nothing THAT important.
And I know a bunch of girls I'd want to be with, but they are just in relationships that already last like 5-6 years. The best "stuff" is taken right after the elementary school
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posted April 20, 2009 05:22 PM
Quote:I think I'm with Doomforge on this issue, at least partially. Take out the specific thing he doesn't like: drinking. Why would you be with someone who acts in a way you dislike? It'd be like if MVass suddenly fell in love with a socialist girl who wanted to go to a goat-bartering system.
That would be the best relationship... EVER!
As I always say: conflicts are the spices of life and you can't be immature enough. In fact, wouldn't immature give a fresh feel?
Question: should your partner (luver!) (partner is such a weird term...) be your friend as well? Best friend? why? (don't attack me, I just want to hear opinions)
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Yeah, because you should get along well and always have something to talk about. Which means he/she should also be a friend, not just a live sex toy.
Oh, and for you romantic geeks, seek for a girl that likes to play Final Fantasy, satisfaction guaranteed (I'm flirting with one like that recently, unfortunately she's 19 )
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No gods or kings
posted April 20, 2009 05:34 PM
Oh, please, I don't need to date a clone of me, anytime soon
Share same interests? Why it's so much better to explore the interests of others...
Also, in my experience, personalities may differ, but that doesn't mean they can't complement eachother...
Or not, what do I know... ____________
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Quote:Question: should your partner (luver!) (partner is such a weird term...) be your friend as well? Best friend? why? (don't attack me, I just want to hear opinions)
I don't think there's any set formula, if that's what you're looking for. Actually, I think it's healthy to have different interests (mostly, because I think it's healthy to lead at least nominally independent lives and spend time with other people as individuals rather as a couple). That doesn't mean you shouldn't share some interests, of course.
Example. My wife and I:
Do not like the same kinds of movies.
Do not read the same kind of books.
For the most part, we do not have the same hobbies.
Do not listen to the same music.
Do not have the same social preferences (she's an extrovert who likes lots of people, I'm an introvert who can't stand humanity )
etc.
Yet, we have been happily married for almost 5 years and have been together for 9. So, what gives?
Well, we find each other mutually attractive for one thing. We also do share a lot of things in common. We both enjoy tennis, we both like (some) board games. We both enjoy art. We both enjoy traveling. We both enjoy cooking and food. We are both scientists. We also have a daughter that we both adore, and nothing forges bonds like a child. And so on.
So I guess, I think an optimal relationship depends on finding someone who shares a number of common interests, but who also isn't a perfect clone. You need to find someone you enjoy spending time with, obviously, but you also need to be an individual and have some things that are your own.
There is also more to it than simple interests. Personalities have to compliment each other. Someone I once knew said that every person can be classified as either a dragon or a turtle, and that every relationship needs one of each to be successful. That might be an oversimplified way to look at it,and it's really not any different from the yin-yang concept, but I think it's true. In some senses, opposites attract.
If you want to get a little more scientific, a number of people have developed personality profile tests that can, at least in theory, be used to tell what types of people are optimal for your own personality type. I think there was a thread here some time ago about the Myers-Briggs Personality Indicator. There have been more sophisticated tests developed since, and there is a lot of controversy over how useful these are, but essentially by answering a bunch of questions you can classify yourself as a 4 letter code that is supposed to summarize your personality. There are 16 personality types. Anyway, if you read the original literature on the test, you will find that a number of people have used this sort of score to predict what kinds of jobs are good for you, what kind of people you should marry, how your personality will change in time, etc. The literature is actually very fascinating to read.
Anyway, I don't remember the stuff, because it's been so long since I read it all, but as I recall, there was something to be said about "opposite types" matching well. For instance, having two INTJs in a relationship would be a disaster - they would never talk to each other! Anyway, you can do a google search and get thousands of hits on this topic, but there's a lot of quackery out there related to personality tests. If you really want to read about it, I suggest going to the library and finding some of the original, more scientific literature on the subject (they're generally not difficult reads). There you can get a good measure of your own personality type, and an objective analysis of it. On-line tests are usually oversimplified and not written by experts.
EDIT: If you're interested in the topic, a good, famous text is Barron-Tieger, Barbara; Tieger, Paul D. (1995). Do what you are: discover the perfect career for you through the secrets of personality type. Boston: Little, Brown. It's a very easy read, walks you through the test, and then explains every personality type. It's mostly geared towards career selection, but it's still a nice intro to the Myers-Briggs indicator.
Here's an amazon link.
Do What You Are ____________
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
Quote:Oh, please, I don't need to date a clone of me, anytime soon
Share same interests? Why it's so much better to explore the interests of others...
Also, in my experience, personalities may differ, but that doesn't mean they can't complement eachother...
Or not, what do I know...
____________ Though I must still bow
in awe for the awesomeness that is
MightyMage. For he is all I could ever
want to be! - OhforfSake
DagothGares
Responsible
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No gods or kings
posted April 20, 2009 07:28 PM
The link is not available in my country, MM...
Does anyone of you believe that love is a rational choice?
Someone once told me that the greatest response to the words "Why do you love me?" was: "Because it's you... And I love YOU for what you are." But of course. those things are easier said then done, I suppose.
Tell me what you would say when the cruel mind of the woman (or man) spawned such a question
Also, thanks corribus! I'll try to track something from the library first, though, since it's a pain to do shipping and paying in dollars...
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posted April 20, 2009 06:14 AM
We just can't accept things we dislike. It requires concrete balls.
Yeah that sucks a bit, better to be at someone's home if you are to drink and that someone having a high tolerance level 
Looking forward to your story, glad to see you are holding up well.
