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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: My stupid(?) TOWN IDEA
Thread: My stupid(?) TOWN IDEA
Dajek
Dajek


Known Hero
Psychedelic Knight
posted December 01, 2001 11:11 PM

My stupid(?) TOWN IDEA

I have thought up some twisted town ideas, what probably fit to the game. They are:

1. Atlantis - Water magic (Yeah I know it`s impossible to fit IT in the system, but it`s only an idea...).
Heroes can walk across water.
CREATURES:
level 1:
a - Angelfish - Magic resistance 40 %
b - Giant squid - Attacks all ajent enemies
level 2:
a - Mermaid - whatever it does...
b - Sea Lion - Poisonous Fangs
level 3:
a - Davilfish - Blinding attack
b - Flying Fish - Fearless, Casts some water magic...
level4:
a - Sea monster - Whatever it does...
b - Neptune - No melee penalty, 50% tougher on water terrain, shoots past creatures.

Stupid, huh? Well at least it wasn`t easy to think it out...
Make your own, better town, if you don`t like this!
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Midler
Midler


Hired Hero
High Priestess Elf Queen
posted December 01, 2001 11:26 PM

It's not that bad, but wouldn't it be better if u added some reptiles? I mean, they're water creatures too y'know. Just like wut I did, in my own topic that I had a while back (yeah, the ideas that u labelled "stupid").

Some creatures that would be nice additions in there are:
Kraken (although u already have Giant Squid in there, just suggesting a better name)
Lizardman
Dragon Turtle
Leviathan (um, u already have sea monster, but again, suggesting another name)
Siren (I'm not really sure how Sirens look like, some say they're Evil Mermaids, some say they're Water Harpies. But they're special ability is certain -singing!)

Neptune's a cool idea, haven't thought of that one.

If u've played Lords of Magic, Amazons were the 'governors' of the Water Faith. So why not include them there too? I'm not talking about the traditional Greek Amazons, but the 'dark-skinned' Water Amazons.
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Midler
Midler


Hired Hero
High Priestess Elf Queen
posted December 01, 2001 11:28 PM

Two more suggestions!

How about u transfer the Nagas here and as for level 1 creatures, how about Nixies?
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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted December 02, 2001 01:56 AM

The idea would actually be good, if only there were an underwater layer on the map.. but then how do these units walk on land?
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Gnolly-guy
Gnolly-guy


Adventuring Hero
Storm Gnoll
posted December 02, 2001 06:40 AM

I kinda agree with Milder on the reptiles.In Lords Of Magic the lizardmen were slaves of the water people.You could also add a Whale zombie from FFIX.It was red and had an instant death attack which was very originally called 'death'.

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Slava14
Slava14


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Famous Hero
I am 16 now....
posted December 02, 2001 07:29 AM

The idea is nice, though not fully thought of. But as said earlier, the main problem is "How do fish walk on a grass ?!"
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darkspirit
darkspirit


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aka Zutus
posted December 02, 2001 01:24 PM

Quote:
The idea is nice, though not fully thought of. But as said earlier, the main problem is "How do fish walk on a grass ?!"



with little wheels underneath them... :-p
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DonGio
DonGio


Promising
Famous Hero
of Clear Water Mountain Clan
posted December 02, 2001 05:17 PM

Doesn't that fish on land problem categorize under the 50 black dragons on one tiny ship and so forth?
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Xenophanes
Xenophanes


Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
posted December 02, 2001 05:21 PM

Theres already a thread like this...

I think there's an old thread about this...very long...it's called "Ocean Town" or something. People were dreaming up all kinds of things like Leviathans and Pirrahna Warriors(my idea, thank you).
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Midler
Midler


Hired Hero
High Priestess Elf Queen
posted December 03, 2001 01:17 AM

Wow that old thread had some great ideas. It must've been real old since the units reached up to level 6, instead of four.

Anyways, I decided to mix in some of my ideas with some of theirs... so here's my list.

SIDE NOTE IDEA- what if flying units can only be attacked by other flying units, archers, or ground creatures with fire breathing? That way, in castle sieges, they'll have a bit more insurance.

Atlantis
1)Nixie-water sprites, flying,
Lizardman- ground, archer, able to poison enemy by chance
2)Siren- flying, SPECIAL: sing, able to put adjacent enemies to sleep.
Amazon- ground, archer, attack twice
3)Mermaid- ground, spell caster
Naga- ground, no retaliation, poison enemy by chance
4)LEviathan- flying
Dragon Turtle- ground, fire breathing

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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted December 03, 2001 03:36 AM

"Doesn't that fish on land problem categorize under the 50 black dragons on one tiny ship and so forth?"

No.. Because 50 Black Dragons are represented by one Dragon, and the idea is that they can stand in a boat. Fish walking on land defies logic. Legions of units cramming around is a different matter entirely. There is at least some logic behind that. Of course, the folks at NWC could come up with some ingenius way for sea life to be able to traverse land, and I would applaud the idea.. Somehow I don't see it happening.
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Gerdash
Gerdash


Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
posted December 03, 2001 06:53 PM

true, taking a second look, there was quite a good discussion indeed before that bs in the last notes. and the thread name is also bit more appropriate than this one. if some moderator could remove the off-topic notes.. ??

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UnkaHaakon
UnkaHaakon


Responsible
Famous Hero
happily tilting at windmills
posted December 03, 2001 08:43 PM

offtopic: Moderator's note

I pulled a bunch of the squabbling out of the last page of that thread. Feel free to continue the discussion either there or here.

Actually, I was very tempted to let it stand as a bad example.

I'm very pleased that for the most part, current posters are very good about posting ontopic, and debating issues, not personalities. Keep up the great work.
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MightyMage
MightyMage


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Legendary Hero
of INSANITY and DELICIOUSNESS
posted December 04, 2001 12:59 AM

Quote:
the main problem is "How do fish walk on a grass ?!"


That could be answered with, how did the water elementals walk on grass (or any other land for that matter)?
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Wesley
Wesley


Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
posted December 04, 2001 01:07 AM

Swimming creature problem(maybe)

I know I sound childish.. but it could be an option.  Know pokemon stadium? There the Swimming creatures Float above the ground. maybe some sharks,lampreys/swordfish and Leviathans could be floating by levitate spells? But then.. Why should they? There are enought creatures of the sea that doesn't need to be that hard. Take Kraken? he could be easy top creature, an giant octopus can be on land, Atleast it can walk there. Leviathan is out i'm afraid, Same goes for the other fish..

Some water creatures.
Mermaid
Sea Monster(I hate it!.. but well..)
Kraken
Triton(might and magic 8)
Siren(bird version)
Dragon Turtle
Sea Serpent
Sea Titan


Here you are. Enough water creatures for a whole town. And they all are able to come on land.

Wesley
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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted December 04, 2001 05:47 AM

"That could be answered with, how did the water elementals walk on grass (or any other land for that matter)?"

That does not answer the question. All you do is try to justify it by asking another similar question.

It was never stated anywhere that water elementals needed to live in water, or needed to breath air in water.

For a moment we will ignore "magical" incantations and stuff. Fish on the other hand (unless they are amphibious) swim.. and breath oxygen through water because they have gills instead of lungs. That requires them to be in water. Fish die without water. Water elementals looked like they "walked" instead of swam so they don't need the water. You could of course say that the fish were put under magic and thus able to "swim" in air, but I don't know how well that's going to be received. They are native to water and it would just look weird.
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Myste
Myste


Adventuring Hero
Reality Impaired
posted December 05, 2001 12:19 PM

How about that fish just slither along the ground like the mermaid is depicted? I know it would look weird but at least it isn't flopping aroung like a recently caught salmon. As for triton creatures and that - has anyone played Zeus? Tritons can travel like Poseidon does, with a magically suspended water underneath him to paddle along.

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Wesley
Wesley


Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
posted December 05, 2001 05:58 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 20:51, 27 Nov 2008.

Why not.


giving the sharks some legs?


Moderator's note:This topic has been closed, as it refers to an older version of the game. To discuss Heroes 3, please go to Library Of Enlightenment, to discuss Heroes 4, please go to War Room Of Axeoth.
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