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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Complete or Restoration of Erathia?
Thread: Complete or Restoration of Erathia?
Neno
Neno

Tavern Dweller
posted August 20, 2008 01:26 PM

Complete or Restoration of Erathia?

Hello all!
I'm new to this forum, I installed Homm3 Complete because I finished the Restoration of Erathia campaigns with expert, I'm a good player and I wanted to have some fresh challanges. Also, when using the mapeditor, I missed so much a few creatures from HoMM2 like mummies and rogues that I saw in the expansion pack.
I enjoy a lot of things from this version, like the additional neutral creatures, the more various options of the mapeditor and the special artifact you can put togheter (like armor of the damned!).

The problem is that thanks to Armageddon's blade we have a new castle, Conflux, which is too strong (it makes 4 Firebirds per week, What the heck... ) and which has a design ridiculous and really poor of constructions and creatures. In other words, it sucks.

Now the question is, Isn't there a patch to keep the HoMM3 Complete's features and eliminate the conflux castle?
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kesnar
kesnar


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posted August 20, 2008 01:53 PM

You can install WOG that has the option to make conflux a neutral town with other creatures(I think it's a bit more balanced) and have many many extra features too, for more information visit the wog subforum(just down of that subforum)
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Lure_of_Lilith
Lure_of_Lilith


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posted August 20, 2008 02:54 PM
Edited by Lure_of_Lilith at 15:15, 20 Aug 2008.

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The problem is that thanks to Armageddon's blade we have a new castle, Conflux, which is too strong (it makes 4 Firebirds per week, What the heck... )


Hello Neno! And welcome to the HC boards! If memory serves me right, I think the Pyre (also the name of my favorite hero ) produces 2 Fire Birds per week, not four. A production of four seventh level creatures per week, however, goes beyond the word "strong".

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and which has a design ridiculous and really poor of constructions and creatures. In other words, it sucks.


Keep in mind that the design team had to create this entirely new town at a very limited amount of time . They had to scrap out the Forge immedietly, which they spent a great deal of time on) and delete any trace of that town in the storylines etc.

IMO, the creatures don't have that big an advantage as each has an elemental vulnerability (Air Elemental vulnearable to Thunder, so pretty much, Lightning Bolt will kill a whole stack of them). The heroes and the Grail structure are an entirely different story though.
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Neno
Neno

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posted August 20, 2008 03:09 PM

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A production of four seventh level creatures per week, however, goes beyond the word "strong".


That's it, it's ridiculous!
The problem with WOG is that crashes my XP system, patches or not...
Angelito suggested me to use "templates", but I can't get what they are... Anyone knows something about them? thanks
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Hell_Wizard
Hell_Wizard


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posted August 20, 2008 04:14 PM

Well, Neno.

I don't know about your problems, I never met them. But If you want, I can send you the latest official updates of HOMM3 WoG. In most cases, newer version null some of the errors in the old ones.
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angelito
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posted August 20, 2008 04:52 PM

Conflux town with castle built produces 4 firebirds a week.

A template is only important if u play random games. It is a txt file where the basics of the upcoming map is defined. Like how many towns on the map, how many mines, how rich the areas are, how many areas/zone you may find, how many players start etc...

There are tons of templates around, mostly used for human vs human games.

But if u only play vs computer, don't care about conflux. If u have it, you will win easily, if the comp has it, you will easily aswell

Computer doesn't use Conflux army to its full potential (neither does he with other towns though..). He upgrades his level 1-3 units very very late, he isn't aware of the strength a bunch full of sprites have. So don't worry until you face a human player using conflux..
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antipaladin
antipaladin


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posted August 20, 2008 05:04 PM

if we talk about unballance you should include the grail of conflux gives you every spell posible to apear in the guild ,but i seggest you install wog,for uber sexiness and challange,once my mod is done ,you can expect heroes 2 creatures revived in heroes life.
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neno
neno

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posted August 20, 2008 08:56 PM

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if we talk about unballance you should include the grail of conflux gives you every spell posible to apear in the guild ,but i seggest you install wog,for uber sexiness and challange,once my mod is done ,you can expect heroes 2 creatures revived in heroes life.


I would love to see the old HoMM2 creatures back! They put almost all of them in the Complete version, but do you remember how were cute mummies in HoMM2?
Angelito, do you know where I can find some of those template to play? I mean there isn't problem to win against computer, but I reroll when he gave me conflux
Ps: I'd like to play more with humans, until now I only play with a few friends in lan, so if anyone wants to do a game on Hamachi by TCP/IP ports I'm up! just let me know

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antipaladin
antipaladin


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posted August 21, 2008 06:44 PM

here is what you need.
also log for the wog section for news about wog,or feel free to contact me.
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