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Thread: Updated NCF thread [ This thread is 54 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 (43) 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 ]
Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted October 06, 2009 08:33 AM
Edited by Fauch at 08:34, 06 Oct 2009.

yes.

dossier de surendettement? what's the relation with the topic?

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Vojthus
Vojthus


Adventuring Hero
Waking Up
posted October 16, 2009 05:06 PM

Acherus Deathcharger anyone?

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Psatkha
Psatkha


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Known Hero
posted November 10, 2009 01:16 AM
Edited by Psatkha at 01:21, 10 Nov 2009.

Dear Fauch!

Please see on file scripts\creature_342.lua in file NCF_MegaPack.pak!

CREATURE_GENIE = 342

The keywords 'CREATURE_GENIE' is already used for creature #65 (standard creature)!

I have 2 variant for renaming item #342:
a) CREATURE_GRAND_GENIE (idea by Lord_Immortal);
b) CREATURE_GENIE_RAJAH (idea by Lord_Immortal)!

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted November 10, 2009 05:17 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 22:32, 10 Nov 2009.

Quote:
Dear Fauch!

Please see on file scripts\creature_342.lua in file NCF_MegaPack.pak!

CREATURE_GENIE = 342

The keywords 'CREATURE_GENIE' is already used for creature #65 (standard creature)!

I have 2 variant for renaming item #342:
a) CREATURE_GRAND_GENIE (idea by Lord_Immortal);
b) CREATURE_GENIE_RAJAH (idea by Lord_Immortal)!

Hi Psatkha!

in all, 4 NCF were in trouble by using already ID about original creatures.

the solution I applied is using their « MonsterShared » Name.

so, the MonsterShared Ref. for #342 is

/MapObjects/Academy/Djinn.xdb#xpointer(/AdvMapMonsterShared)

then the ID will be CREATURE_DJINN

that's work also for the others 3 NCF in trouble.

I don't have right now the list of these 4 NCF, but If you want it, I will give it to you.

To resume: the ID is fixed by using the name from their MonsterShared.


P.S. I can't wait to get your 6 next NCF, especially your really new  « Woman Knight » as I seen on ZZima.com
Hurry up!


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Psatkha
Psatkha


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Known Hero
posted November 11, 2009 02:53 AM
Edited by Psatkha at 02:57, 11 Nov 2009.

:2: SimonaK

OK! "Woman Knight" - "Meykongr"

P.S. Do you can see on the forum at  - www.ag.ru ?!

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted November 11, 2009 11:53 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 00:05, 12 Nov 2009.

Quote:
Do you can see on the forum at  - www.ag.ru ?!

yes I do. This site seems bigger than other one. really interesting thank!

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted November 12, 2009 08:47 PM

what are the 3 other creatures?

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted November 12, 2009 10:31 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 22:45, 12 Nov 2009.

Quote:
what are the 3 other creatures?

by using this select into NCF_MegaPack DataBase:

select r.text_name,
       g.status,
       g.filename,
       g.ref,
       g.creature_id,
       g.script_id
  from gm_creatures_ncf g,
       ref_object
 where g.ref = r.ref
   and exists(select 1
                from gm_creatures
               where creature_id <> g.creature_id
                 and script_id = g.script_id);




I got NCFs using script_id already used by original creatures.

there are the 4 NCF (all are 3rd upgrade)

------------------------------------------------------------------
text_name   : Seigneur de Guerre
status      : Academy tier 7 3rd upgrade
filename    : \Neutrals\Creature_326.xdb
ref         : /MapObjects/Academy/Colossus.xdb#xpointer(/AdvMapMonsterShared)
creature_id : CREATURE_326
script_id   : CREATURE_WARLORD


CREATURE_WARLORD is Fortress tier 6 1st upgrade

so I suggest: CREATURE_COLOSSUS

------------------------------------------------------------------
text_name   : Génie
status      : Academy tier 5 3rd upgrade
filename    : \Neutrals\Creature_342.xdb
ref         : /MapObjects/Academy/Djinn.xdb#xpointer(/AdvMapMonsterShared)
creature_id : CREATURE_342
script_id   : CREATURE_GENIE


CREATURE_GENIE is Academy tier 5 base

so I suggest: CREATURE_DJINN

------------------------------------------------------------------
text_name   : Mâne
status      : Necropolis tier 3 3rd upgrade
filename    : \Neutrals\Creature_363.xdb
ref         : /MapObjects/Necropolis/Alt_upgrade/Fantome.(AdvMapMonsterShared).xdb#xpointer(/AdvMapMonsterShared)
creature_id : CREATURE_363
script_id   : CREATURE_MANES


CREATURE_MANES is Necropolis tier 3 base

so I suggest: CREATURE_FANTOME

------------------------------------------------------------------
text_name   : Rôdeuse Sanglante
status      : Dungeon tier 2 3rd upgrade
filename    : \Neutrals\Creature_367.xdb
ref         : /MapObjects/Dungeon/Shadow_Witch_upg2.(AdvMapMonsterShared).xdb#xpointer(/AdvMapMonsterShared)
creature_id : CREATURE_367
script_id   : CREATURE_BLOOD_WITCH


CREATURE_BLOOD_WITCH is Dungeon tier 2 1st upgrade

so I suggest: CREATURE_BLOOD_WITCH_3

(second upgrade is CREATURE_BLOOD_WITCH_2)



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silpion
silpion


Hired Hero
posted December 21, 2009 08:51 AM

Hi,
I just installed the NFC mega pack and I already encountered some new creatures.

Is it possible to upgrade to the 3rd alternatives from town or is a hill fort required? I tried to upgrade a skeleton to skeleton mage and I could not find a way to to this.

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted December 21, 2009 09:00 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 21:04, 21 Dec 2009.

Quote:
Hi,
I just installed the NFC mega pack and I already encountered some new creatures.

Is it possible to upgrade to the 3rd alternatives from town or is a hill fort required? I tried to upgrade a skeleton to skeleton mage and I could not find a way to to this.

the Heroes V «engine» (the exe) just allows exactly 2 upgrades a town.

so, It's entirely impossible to have up to 3 upgrades in a town.
(except if you modify the exe)........

you can get the 3rd upgrade in a town by using a "swapping" creatures method
and so replacing an already upgrade by others.

ex: the swapping creatures method is also used to replace 6th tier necro creatures by death knigth lot, or dungeon witchs by manticore group.
but I will not explain these methods here.

of course and as you said, the hill fort stays and will be always the best solution. after all, the 3rd upgrades are a little bit neutral too.


about skeleton:

the skeleton mage is not an upgrade of necro skeleton....so it's normal you cannot obtain it by upgrading the other one.






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Psatkha
Psatkha


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Known Hero
posted January 10, 2010 02:19 AM

Creature #208 "Satyr" is updated and available now!



"Satyrs are the embodiment of spiteful spirits of Irollan’s forests. They extremely quaint creatures having brutish temperament, they easily run into unthinkable fury and becoming uncontrollable are capable to cause any dirty tricks, but nevertheless despite their cockiness, they are incredibly cowardly."

My page

Satyr

Creature #217 "Pikeman" is updated and available now!



"Pikemen personify appreciable threat thanks to their qualit armours and their excellent training to handle a pike with skill. They attack the enemy with unrestrained impetuosity and therefore they oftentimes employ the stale tricks of striking thrusts of a pike, which afford them chance to win in the most hopeless situations."

My page

Pikeman

Creature #288 "Animist" (joint project by Nelgirith) is updated and available now!



"Animists are the sinister black magicians who died by own will and have revived again, because during their lifetime they in the researches have found the delicate brink between the life and the death and thus they seized some power over live and dead creatures, their power comprise the ability to drink vitality from alive and partially to transfer its to dead for rising undead."

My page

Animist

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted January 10, 2010 10:16 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 22:21, 10 Jan 2010.

3 excellent creatures. Psatkha's great as always.

Textures and animations just too nice.


Indeed 0 points for sounds!
I know you change sounds sometime but you should always change the sounds.

ex: Pikeman are really cool, but each sound is « Peasant »,
however, Pikeman wears iron armor...where is the """clikitie""" sound from moving armor???

same thing about Satyr....all Minotor's sounds...and Animist shot sound too sounds as these of Mages...

You know you can take sounds from others creatures and use them for new creature....I'm sure it exists already a kind of armor clikitie
into the data.pak, true new sounds will always be the best.

Moreover, « Deadly Strike » for Pikeman is seriously exagerated.
I badly imagine 20 pikemen killed 25% of tier 6 or 7 of 80 units and more. Also this creature has really too capacities.

Animist is still one of your « darkness » creature with a lot of darkness spells....but the creature is really well-created. the game
needed that. I'm speaking about the visual, of course.

Animist has a bug into its GameMechanic files,
BaseCreature = CREATURE_LICH instead of CREATURE_UNKNOWN

btw, bravo for your great work.


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Psatkha
Psatkha


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Known Hero
posted January 10, 2010 11:51 PM
Edited by Psatkha at 23:52, 10 Jan 2010.

Creature #248 "Pegasus" (joint project by ArchWarlock) is updated and available now!



"Pegasuses are the wonderful creatures which are born only in the day of a summer solstice and consequently they are very rare and do not meet in the Irollan, but they can be met among wild rocks in the north where they reside enjoying free winds. Pegasuses are quite well protected against magic, they are enormously strong for holding the enemy in check, and their horn is capable to blind the enemy by the flash of light."

My page

Pegasus

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted January 11, 2010 07:49 PM
Edited by SimonaK at 20:35, 11 Jan 2010.

I very like this creature.

ArchWarlock made an excellent work in all.

except for one thing...Pegasus has not a horn!

just google "pegasus" for images of to note that. Pegasus pictures


[EDIT]

Ok! I understood

If we remove the horn, a "hole" will be in the head.

so the horn must be meanwhile the real re-modeling capacity.
exactly like the Lycanthrope's iron pieces.


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Psatkha
Psatkha


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Known Hero
posted January 12, 2010 12:08 AM
Edited by Psatkha at 02:00, 12 Jan 2010.

SimonaK look at the image (by your link from Google) - the Horn is present


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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 12, 2010 05:55 AM
Edited by Fauch at 06:17, 12 Jan 2010.

I don't think a pegasus has a horn, but it's not very important.
nice units, but they have too many abilities as usual.

satyr : the berserker rage, cowardice and taunt combo is somewhat funny. makes you think twice before using berserker rage. not sure it's necessary to have both bash and crippling wound, but it's an original set of abilities.

pikeman : how do they bash? they are fat and wear an armor, how do they perform swift attacks? how can they kill half of a stack in an attack? is a spear a good weapon for cleave?
that leaves the abilities
-rider charge
-armored
-unlimited retaliations
-battle rage

the animist seem pretty cool actually, but as simonak said, you have already made many creatures able to use a lot of powerful dark spells.

for the pegasus, I don't really see the point of unlimited retaliation. the problem is it is too similar to the pristine unicorn.
what about
-flyer
-immune to blind
-child of the light
-aura of magic resistance?

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SimonaK
SimonaK


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Supreme Hero
posted January 12, 2010 07:47 PM

good speech Fauch.

...

to horn or not to horn?

that is not the question anymore!

but Psatkha just to comment your answer:
I'm sure at least 90% of pictures are without horn.

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Cepheus
Cepheus


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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted January 13, 2010 07:34 AM

Who gives a damn either way. It looks superb and I'm downloading it.
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Kerr
Kerr

Tavern Dweller
posted January 16, 2010 06:57 AM
Edited by Kerr at 07:20, 16 Jan 2010.

That Pirate looks awesome! when u get finished it?

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Crispy_Critter
Crispy_Critter


Hired Hero
posted January 21, 2010 10:07 PM

Gotta newbie here, folks. Just wanted to congratulate all the talented mod and map creators on this site. Thanks for sharing with all the computer illiterates like me.


P.S. Can anyone re-post the downloads for "Ballista Upgrades" and "Memory Mentor"? The link on Speedy Share tells me the files cannot be found.

Thanks
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