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zamfir
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posted November 21, 2008 04:57 PM

Did I mentioned that I met Skele in RL? I think I forgot.
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TheDeath
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posted November 21, 2008 05:17 PM

So Eugen is in sector 4? (or wherever you are Zamfir I kinda forgot )
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Azagal
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posted November 21, 2008 05:19 PM

lol now you just sound like an alien....
"sector 4" xD.
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eugen_cosmarul
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posted November 21, 2008 06:33 PM

Sector 6 precisely.
And the funny thing is that I never even knew or saw him before meeting him here, at HC, but it turned out that we live like... 3 buildings away from each other.

Anyway, as Arcax said, we'll gonna have the games tomorrow, so stay tuned.
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Elvin
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posted November 21, 2008 06:41 PM

Limit is on Saturdays as always. And yeah I'm looking forward to the finals
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zamfir
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posted November 21, 2008 06:54 PM
Edited by zamfir at 18:57, 21 Nov 2008.

Quote:
And the funny thing is that I never even knew or saw him before meeting him here, at HC, but it turned out that we live like... 3 buildings away from each other.


Yeah, not to mention that I always passed by his place when going to school (and this happened many times).
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posted November 22, 2008 05:02 AM
Edited by Elvin at 12:03, 22 Nov 2008.

I have been working on a new version of the map for a few days now and there have been several changes to improve balance as well as the annoyance factor

- The following artifacts have been disabled: Unicorn horn bow, skull of Markal, rune of flame, robe and crown of Sar Issus, lion crown, armour of forgotten hero, cloak of death’s shadow.
The intent is of course to reduce the huge gap of randomness some artifacts can bring. Was fun while it lasted but it's better to depend more on skill than blind luck.

- Orcs no longer start with fear my roar.
Used to be a dark counter but since the shatter dark hut was added it serves no purpose. Plus fear warcry spam is annoying.

- Starting perks revised. Orcs start with might over magic/memory of our blood, sylvan with imbue/rain of arrows, demons with consume corpse/hellfire and wizards with motw/consume.
I reconsidered some of the given choices and I think that the above races are better of starting with those. Powerful blow isn't always useful just as academy doesn't always fight offensive spellcasters.

- Slayer has been added to sylvan’s avenger list.

- Added 2 warmachines to each hero.
It was a matter of whether people remember to buy them or not anyway. Inferno starts with ballista/tent, necro has tent/cart, academy ballista/cart etc.

- Added a new area with two lvl 3 , lvl 2 and lvl1 shrines. The crystal of revelation, sphinx, well and arcane library have also been moved there.
Since I give arcane library why not give a few more lower level spells Starting area is less crowded now.

- Gave cloak of sylanna to inferno. May be removed.
What can I say, it sucks to lose badly from an empowered meteor or a high druid boosted meteor with slippers. Inferno is hopeless when it gets to that.

- The orcish trees have been cut down.
Because they obstructed Joonas' view

- Armageddon banned.
I hoped it was ok but apparently it's not. With fire cape it can be unstoppable even with moderate spellpower and then there is the dwarven abuse. They can use fire resistance, rune of immunity, easy access to last stand, rune of resurrection, normal resurrection, regeneration, heck half of their units are immune anyway. Academy and dungeon can also do silly stuff with it.


As an example just check this! My necro vs Arcax's sylvan, most exciting match.

Also with the new version I will introduce a new rule, visit well before you use mentor. There were many mana abuses so this has to stop. Dungeon no longer has bottomless mana when facing inferno and same goes for necro matches whete they could spam empowered meteors like there was no tomorrow.
I have not taken any measures against it but it's pretty evident if you cheated, your mana would then be higher than your knowledge. Also selling knowledge artifacts will be forbidden, either you use them or not - no refunds



I will post the map after the final to avoid confusion. For now you play 2.6 normally with the rules you knew.

Edit: Oops I posted the map instead of the replay Link fixed.
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Azagal
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posted November 22, 2008 05:26 AM
Edited by Azagal at 05:27, 22 Nov 2008.

Must say I'm really in favor of (almost) all the changes. Especially the one with the level 1-3 shrines and banning Armaggedon. I never really liked those tactics anyway where you just try to outlast your oponent which is kinda gay when half your stuff is immune while he isn't.


One thing though why is armour of the forgotten hero banned? I wouldn't by far consider it anywhere near as broken as the crown, cape etc. What's so hardcore about +2 primary stats and 20% spell resistance? Sure 20% spell resistance is good but it's not broken, or is it? I once had 55% spell resistance in a game vs. dwarves and the only time resistance trigerred was on one (oO) unit during one mass spell -_-. It's not broken.

EDIT: Oh yeah and it costs you 3/4 of your cash if you're not haven, which is also a great hindrence (shouldn't you have been very fortunate in your skill selection).
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posted November 22, 2008 12:12 PM

Picture this. Haven or orcs with max luck/morale/retribution and 35% resistance. One or two resists can cost you the game, their damage output is enormous for you to catch up.
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Azagal
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posted November 22, 2008 12:46 PM

Ok but with boots instead of armour it's 25% and it's the same and boots aren't overpowered. 35% is big as a number but in the game it doesn't trigger to often (atleast in my experience).

I think that is too specific a case for it to be a reason to ban it.
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posted November 22, 2008 12:50 PM

One out of three is preposterous. I have seen 3/7 resists with 15% resistance, imagine if the guy with 35% is lucky
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Azagal
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posted November 22, 2008 01:51 PM

And I've seen 1/7 resist with 45% resistance, you see.

I still don't think it should be banned. I can hardly present any "counterevidence" though since the numbers speak for themselves in theory. It's just that from my experience it doesn't make resistance trigger so often that I'd be broken.
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posted November 22, 2008 01:53 PM

Agree with most changes, though I'm curious how does that new area with Shrines work... is it a portal for each faction that leads to 8 different places, hmm?

And I actually never thought of that cheap trick of selling the knowledge artifact after you get the mana bonus Good that it's banned.
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Elvin
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posted November 22, 2008 01:53 PM
Edited by Elvin at 14:02, 22 Nov 2008.

In that case I suggest we play a dark necro vs light haven with the latter having 35% resistance and you'll tell me afterwards. Or even better destructive dungeon vs orcs.

And yes it works with a two way portal. The starting areas have mentor, portal and artifact merchants. The rest of the objects with the shrines have been moved to the new areas though stronghold doesn't have one.
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Azagal
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posted November 22, 2008 02:02 PM

How DO you sell artefacts. I just looked at the merchant ones for an option didn't find on and never boarderd looking again :S. Would actually help if you get one of those elemental artefacts for Orcs...
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posted November 22, 2008 02:04 PM

You sell those in the marketplace
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posted November 22, 2008 02:05 PM
Edited by Asheera at 14:05, 22 Nov 2008.

Quote:
How DO you sell artefacts.
In the town's Marketplace

EDIT: Elvin beat me to it.
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JoonasTo
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posted November 22, 2008 02:06 PM

But I beat you to it in MSN.
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Azagal
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posted November 22, 2008 02:07 PM

In any case thank all 3 of you^^.
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Elvin
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posted November 22, 2008 02:07 PM

If you get a good position in the tournament scores I may consider you giving one of my spare rings of speed
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