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eugen_cosmarul
Famous Hero
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posted November 24, 2008 08:23 PM |
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In. 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 24, 2008 08:31 PM |
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Great, we hit 50 pages! Meanwhile I'll try and see if I get more tohers to join us, with you being a toh slayer that should give you more chances 
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted November 24, 2008 10:09 PM |
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Those that downloaded my 3.2 version, it is incorrect. I removed the link and sent Elvin an improved version, so you'll have to download it again and use that instead 
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 24, 2008 11:30 PM |
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I may as well join if there is room.
Why not have a larger starting group? Say 10 or 12 people provided there is enough interest.
Also, why is everything banned? All the fun artifacts etc.
Why not use more troops? Armageddon, cotn are too strong right now because there's not enough population.
Why not use random heroes instead of fixed? Ashie's fix while good for 'balancing' is less fun for variety. The specialties shouldn't make that much difference in a one-off fight.
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted November 24, 2008 11:32 PM |
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Some specialties are a little too imba though... for example Haggash.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 24, 2008 11:38 PM |
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At level 21 who goes first, Haggash's centaurs or Wyngaals dragons?
Haggash can be beaten in a real game, why not in a duel?
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted November 24, 2008 11:39 PM |
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Well Wyngaal is also pretty imba.
And also, some heroes will be at a high disadvantage... more precisely, the adventure-map heroes such as Rutger, Grok, etc.
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rubycus
Known Hero
-student of the mind-
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posted November 24, 2008 11:43 PM |
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Grats, Final_Boss!
So, when is the next round starting?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 25, 2008 12:06 AM |
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@Phoenix
I'm still recruiting, heck the last round only finished a day ago I'm adding people in the list as they appear, my goal is to get 16 people for a full scale epic tournament. About variety you can't really complain, I've never played the same way a hero twice. Skills and spells are always different so the only thing is a lack of special. And yes specialties have a great impact, trust me. Have you played with Ossir, Anwen, Ylthin, Wyngaal, Gilraen to tell the difference in strength?
No need for more troops either, more than that and I'd have to remove cotn for being useless.. Armageddon is already banned and week 5 armies can withstand enough cotns.
@Rubicus
The tournament should begin in one week at the earliest.
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adon
Known Hero
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posted November 25, 2008 12:36 AM |
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Interesting to see how this will balance out. I'm still of mind that Sylvan and Inferno are too weak and Haven is too strong (the other factions I think are pretty balanced against eachother) based on all the replays I've seen from a wide vareity of skill levels and "random factors" like environment, spells, artifacts, etc.
I noticed in the final that necro hero was level 22, is Dark Revelation perk banned? Or just removing it with the mentor? And if so, how is that monitored?
I don't think it would have made a difference in that match as the dwarves got slaughtered very badly.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 25, 2008 01:29 AM |
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Quote:
Have you played with Ossir, Anwen, Ylthin, Wyngaal, Gilraen to tell the difference in strength?
On this duel map? Or in real game?
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted November 25, 2008 02:05 AM |
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I'm in, although my Hamachi stopped working and I'm not sure why. I know it doesn't have anything to do with my firewall. I set up a network recently, would that for some reason interfere with it?
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Final_Boss
Adventuring Hero
The Necropope
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posted November 25, 2008 03:04 AM |
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Quote:
I noticed in the final that necro hero was level 22, is Dark Revelation perk banned? Or just removing it with the mentor? And if so, how is that monitored?
I don't think it would have made a difference in that match as the dwarves got slaughtered very badly.
Yes, I learned dark revelation and then removed it using the mentor, but that is allowed. Anyway, Zoltan is the only necro hero that really benefits from that trick.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 25, 2008 08:19 AM |
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@PhoenixReborn
Irrelevant as long as you have tested them in battle.
@blizzardboy
Did you get any particular message? Sometimes its server is busy or you cannot connect due to high volume of connection requests. Or maybe you used the trial for premium version and it expired? Maybe reinstalling will fix it.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted November 25, 2008 08:30 AM |
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The specialties shouldn't make that much difference in a one-off fight.
I beg you pardon but they can make all the difference in the world. And it would be really boring to reintroduce such a huge element of randomness. I still vote for reintroduction of Armor of the forgotten Hero though.
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Arcax
Promising
Famous Hero
Its quite hot inside...
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posted November 25, 2008 12:30 PM |
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Well I shall put myself to another test - In
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 26, 2008 12:35 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 00:43, 26 Nov 2008.
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Two more people joined, 2 slots remaining
Duel Map 3.2
Time for an update! First off thanks to Asheera's scripts nobody has a useful specialty, the tier 3 dominance has ended  It's for the better as might factions used to benefit more from that. And since we came to that I changed the mains so as to get better representatives:
Eruina for dungeon,
Anwen for sylvan,
Kaspar for necro,
Gorshak for orcs,
Erling for dwarves,
Nebiros for demons,
Dougal for haven
and of course Jhora for academy
Gems have been removed from sylvan because it was possible to trade resources and get a lvl 5 spell  I assumed it was common sense for people to realize I had less gems on purpose but I was wrong so I'm removing them altogether. The only thing they could get was hive which I suppose is a bad thing with rain of arrows.
The other change was to reduce the lvl cap to 21 so there are no dark revelation abuses. It's better to make your levels count than get a junk skill for one more level.
Sylvan's monolith has only one destination now.
Finally I introduced a second artifact merchant to reduce chances of getting bad artifacts. When Vangelis had proposed that it was wrong on many levels with so many imbalanced relics and possible sets but those are not present anymore so you can get a better selection without breaking the game. Possible sets are:
Runeforce that adds +1 to all hero's parameters,
Weapons of Might that increases Attack of all creatures in hero's army by +3 and their Hit Points by +2,
Will of Urgash that increases hero's Attack by +5
And of course a dragon set combo of 2-4 arties.
Others are incomplete or too expensive to even consider.
With the above a few rules are now obsolete Also simplified the matter of mana in that you cannot erase mana perks or sell knowledge arties after visiting the well, that's as fair as it gets.
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adon
Known Hero
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posted November 26, 2008 05:11 AM |
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I'm still too afraid to jump in but will watch from the sidelines as always. I hope the new rules/map get things even more balanced!
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 26, 2008 05:32 AM |
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Come on Adon. It's just for fun.
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Final_Boss
Adventuring Hero
The Necropope
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posted November 26, 2008 09:12 AM |
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The duel map 3.2 has a bug: if you are playing fortress you can’t return from shrines area (you can’t use the two-way portal placed in there).
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