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Asheera
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posted January 13, 2009 08:44 PM |
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Does the recruitment for the next round happen now? If so then I'm in 
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eugen_cosmarul
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hey
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posted January 13, 2009 08:48 PM |
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Does the recruitment for the next round happen now? If so then I'm in
ditto here.
And with the wish of a longer tournament than 1 round. 
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Elvin
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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted January 13, 2009 08:58 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 21:00, 13 Jan 2009.
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Technically this one isn't over but why not go ahead. If all goes well the next version will be finished within a few days 
Edit: We still need to finish that game with zamfir and phoenix has one with Arcax. Come on, no unfinished business!
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted January 13, 2009 09:05 PM |
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Today I asked teacher to see if there is a way to make starting towns random, there had been a few requests on that for some time With any luck the next tournament will be on an improved map.
I tried to think how to create random starting factions but the problem is that heroes can't be neutral for some reason, they must be under one player's control (I was thinking to make them all neutral someplace hidden, then choose a random number and teleport and change their owner accordingly)
I'll try to think of something else...
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted January 13, 2009 09:24 PM |
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What we have so far is that you end first turn and the specific hero with army and skills appears in front of town. Teacher does not know how to make it work from first turn yet.
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted January 13, 2009 09:38 PM |
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Or you could just put all 8 heroes x2 for each player and then pick the one according to your town. This is not the most beautiful idea but simple and it works
btw, I'm in for the next one, duh
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted January 13, 2009 10:20 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 22:21, 13 Jan 2009.
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After 30 minutes of trying I managed to do it!
4.1 Duel Map version with Random Factions:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5mmnni50mzz
Ignore Kaspar at the starting screen and such, you just get in with your opponent and play, you'll get a random faction to play with, no other special tricks you have to do in game at all.
(please note that the other normal 4.1 version is also very important, we'll want sometimes to play with certain factions, if not in the tournament then some random duels  So keep the other one as well - hmm, this makes updating them twice as hard since you'll have to modifiy both  and yes it requires some more modifications than the map script (to make random heroes, I mean) so either way it's a pain)
Also, they are not compatible, you must have only one of them in the Maps folder when playing.
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted January 13, 2009 10:35 PM |
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Edited by sq79 at 22:36, 13 Jan 2009.
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Any chance to replace troops with money ?
Maybe a slave market for every town to sell away troops they don't need?
Really really hate bringing treants to battle
Also after all the balancing down on sylvan , i figured they've become the weakest race in duels maps suddenly. So far, all games with sylvan is 100% loss in 4th round right ?
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted January 13, 2009 10:42 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 22:51, 13 Jan 2009.
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Get used to it, they are useful
Wow I'm surprised Asheera, that's great When you say not compatible it gives an error what exactly is the problem? Ideally you should also be able to choose factions but that should do fine for now.
Edit: Balancing down? Since when? And what 100% loss, yes there were some losses early in the tournament but it's fine now. I bet you have played enough games with radar to know that they are not disadvantaged.
Edit2: For the record. Academy was nerfed with maximum mini arties at lvl 2, necro had its bone dragons reduced by 2, fortress and stronghold had similar army reductions and haven's training was capped. Even so I have had many victories with sylvan regardless of race.
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Asheera
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posted January 13, 2009 11:15 PM |
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One thing I forgot to mention is that you may no longer get artifact as a starting bonus, any idea why? That would be useful to keep for the order subtournament.
Yes you can't, because of what special trick I used. All heroes are under player 3's (AI) command at startup, which gets defeated immediately, because I couldn't make neutral heroes. And since they're not under your control you can't get that random minor artifact anymore. Is it a big problem? If yes you can just place a random minor artifact on the ground for each faction...
I also made 5.0 version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?wnjztfyzgzn
Both this and the other 4.1 random are not compatible with the older versions, but it doesn't matter does it?
The only 'big' problem I see is that every modification you'll do to them will have to be made twice because there are two maps now.
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Arcax
Promising
Famous Hero
Its quite hot inside...
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posted January 14, 2009 12:08 AM |
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Im in I have to avenge my humiliating defeat in 2nd round.
Ill try to catch Phoenix this week, sorry for delays
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted January 14, 2009 12:09 AM |
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Edited by Asheera at 01:12, 14 Jan 2009.
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That's most definitely a bug, I'll try to find out what it is...
EDIT: I think I fixed it. Damn map-tag.xdb file was the problem  but somehow only in multi, I forgot to modify it and it still pointed to eight players instead of three.
Since I re-uploaded it I renamed it to 5.0 anyway.
http://www.mediafire.com/?yy3m2ttyznm
It doesn't show those weird numbers when I create a game in multi, so I hope it works (couldn't test in game with multi)
EDIT: Please re-download if you had so already before, it had a minor error (I don't think it would have caused any problems but better be safe than sorry)
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Arcax
Promising
Famous Hero
Its quite hot inside...
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posted January 14, 2009 01:33 AM |
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And where are thanks for testing support and sacrificing tons of time for your map ?!
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted January 14, 2009 02:05 AM |
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Special thanks to Asheera for making the map so much more fun and to Arcax for helping with the testing We had one game and it's all good.
First game under 5.0!
I made a few improvements, this is the version we will use in the tournament. Masterpost updated and thread cleaned a bit
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Asheera
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posted January 14, 2009 02:24 AM |
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Phew it worked, now I can sleep without worries
Watched the replay, at first I thought Haven would win, so many instant stack-kill strikes with luck.  But that ballista helped a lot as well.
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rubycus
Known Hero
-student of the mind-
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posted January 14, 2009 10:49 AM |
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Edited by rubycus at 11:08, 14 Jan 2009.
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When we use random towns, isn't there a chance of getting the same town against the same opponent?
And btw, why is there a green player also? in the map5,0? Not that it matters..
And one other thing (which is very important ) None of the towns start with Capitol..
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted January 14, 2009 12:28 PM |
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You can't get a mirror match, there is only one available town of the same faction on the map. About the green hero check Asheera's posts above. I assume that's the reason you start with no capitol, since the AI starts with all towns and you can't have a capitol for every town you own.
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Asheera
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posted January 14, 2009 02:08 PM |
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When we use random towns, isn't there a chance of getting the same town against the same opponent?
If you mean that you can get the same faction for two of your games (because you play 2 or 3 games for one round), then yes, that's possible since it's completely random.
And why would you need Capitol anyway? The battle takes place in the first day.
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Azagal
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Smooth Snake
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posted January 14, 2009 02:13 PM |
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OMG ! CHEATER !! GET HIM !
Oh and yeah I guess thanks are in order to the people who made it possible to go random. Thank you.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted January 14, 2009 02:40 PM |
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My rule to not play second faction twice was to avoid abuses, now it's up to luck to decide. However you have the right to refuse playing the same town twice.
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