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alcibiades
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posted September 22, 2008 10:40 AM

And please be civil, even if you disagree with what's written.

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del_diablo
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posted September 22, 2008 11:39 AM

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Can you repeat that please, and this time include some proof of what you're accusing us of?


tier 1: Spearman-> Pikeman/ Halberdier
tier 2: Marksman-> Sharpshooter/ Cho-ko-nu
tier 3: Horseman-> Raider/ Keshik
tier 4: Monk-> Seer/ Templar
tier 5: Swordsman-> Samurai/ Ninja
tier 6: Kitsune-> Nine-tailed Kitsune/ Devil Fox     (misnamed!)
tier 7: Blue Dragon-> White Dragon/ Silver Dragon

Basicaly a reskinned Haven + mix. too

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Wow, a mixed Asian faction. You have got Japanese tier 5 and 6, Mongolian hero and Chinese tier 2... Where are the Koreans ?


Now image if we put Vikings and Priests(christian) into the same faction. Conflict delux no? I view it as the same difference.

Do i need more evidence? Besides, add on the screwd over naga talk and i win i guess.

Besides, you can put togetether a faction of just youkai, oni, ryu, and a few others ALONE! This would be the nipponish town
Oni or Ryu as the top units and varius youkai in their human disguise or half transform as heroes
The town design could be 2-3 islands plunged together on the ocean or some ridiculessy tall mountain(but the mountain is more sterotypical China...........)

+ if they continue to do cartonic grapics they could just as welll attempt to do the town design to look like the old nipponish brush style was used to draw it.

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MattII
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posted September 22, 2008 12:09 PM

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Basicaly a reskinned Haven + mix. too


Firstly, the list has been updated since then, and secondly, Haven is no less a mix than this is, it's a stereotypical medieval lineup with little regard for actual culture (England for example didn't employ mounted knights, while the French knights were rarely on foot), on top of which thre creatures are patently fantastic (Gryphon, Priest and Angel), while others would never appear (Peasant).

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Now image if we put Vikings and Priests(christian) into the same faction. Conflict delux no? I view it as the same difference.


You realise that under this system Cerberi and Demons don't belong together right, or Elves and Unicorns?

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Do i need more evidence? Besides, add on the screwd over naga talk and i win i guess.


You do need at least 'some' evidence, yes, and before you go saying about screwed over discussion, at least learn to spell correctly (it's 'I', not 'i').

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Besides, you can put togetether a faction of just youkai, oni, ryu, and a few others ALONE! This would be the nipponish town
Oni or Ryu as the top units and varius youkai in their human disguise or half transform as heroes


[sarcasm]Yes mixing demons and dragons is even better than cross cultures isn't it?[/sarcasm] Do your own homework before you criticise others about not having done theirs.

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(but the mountain is more sterotypical China...........)


That's just shown you up as being even more biased and ignorant than you consider us to be.

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Moonlith
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posted September 22, 2008 01:07 PM

We already have a Haven.


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Darkshadow
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posted September 22, 2008 02:40 PM

What if we'd go to strange realms and scrap haven?
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del_diablo
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posted September 22, 2008 02:40 PM

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quote]Besides, you can put togetether a faction of just youkai, oni, ryu, and a few others ALONE! This would be the nipponish town
Oni or Ryu as the top units and varius youkai in their human disguise or half transform as heroes


[sarcasm]Yes mixing demons and dragons is even better than cross cultures isn't it?[/sarcasm] Do your own homework before you criticise others about not having done theirs.


And why have i NOT done my homework? hmmm

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(but the mountain is more sterotypical China...........)


That's just shown you up as being even more biased and ignorant than you consider us to be.


And why is that? I merely pointed out that mountain is mor fitting and sterotype for Chinese culture in general.

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Berny-Mac
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posted September 22, 2008 09:25 PM

jeez guys, no more conflict
just tell me what you want me to change
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MattII
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posted September 22, 2008 10:23 PM

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jeez guys, no more conflict
just tell me what you want me to change


Nothing from my point of view (you've already done it), but others would disagree

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[sarcasm]Yes mixing demons and dragons is even better than cross cultures isn't it?[/sarcasm] Do your own homework before you criticise others about not having done theirs.


And why have i NOT done my homework? hmmm


Read the statement, dragons and demons don't mix.

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That's just shown you up as being even more biased and ignorant than you consider us to be.


And why is that? I merely pointed out that mountain is mor fitting and sterotype for Chinese culture in general.


Because there are plenty of environments in China that 'aren't' mountainous, and they're often the more populated areas. Besides which, you don't seem to like anyone else making stereotypes of the place, so why should you be allowed to do it?

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Berny-Mac
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posted September 22, 2008 10:42 PM


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       quote:That's just shown you up as being even more biased and ignorant than you consider us to be.



   And why is that? I merely pointed out that mountain is mor fitting and sterotype for Chinese culture in general.



Because there are plenty of environments in China that 'aren't' mountainous, and they're often the more populated areas. Besides which, you don't seem to like anyone else making stereotypes of the place, so why should you be allowed to do it?
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well, seeing as my faction is more "air oriented" it would make sense for it to be mountains, but i really don't care
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Moonlith
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posted September 23, 2008 12:09 AM

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Read the statement, dragons and demons don't mix.

Depends on the type of dragon. Make them look demonic and call them Helldragons or Doomdragons and it fits.

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MattII
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posted September 23, 2008 02:31 AM

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well, seeing as my faction is more "air oriented" it would make sense for it to be mountains, but i really don't care


Well, 'air oriented' does suit a mountain-top (lees the slopes and valleys), but it also (in my opinion) suits the open plains/grasslands/savannah.

My view of this is
open space = air
vegitation = water
valleys/caves = earth
geothermal = fire

So a mountain range encompases both air and earth depending of where you are in the range.

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Depends on the type of dragon. Make them look demonic and call them Helldragons or Doomdragons and it fits.


A possibility I suppose (given that Ryu is Japanese for 'dragon'), given the Black Dragon is with the Dark Elves, but we no more need an Oriental styled Dungeon/Inferno faction than we do an Oriental styled Haven/Academy Faction.

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blizzardboy
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posted September 23, 2008 03:01 AM

None of the factions are really Occidental or Oriental. They're fantasy Besides, the H5 Sylvan town already has an oriental style to it.
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Berny-Mac
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posted September 23, 2008 03:03 AM

not really, its more...hippie
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blizzardboy
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posted September 23, 2008 03:11 AM

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not really, its more...hippie


Examine some of the architecture in the town, especially the castle, it's highly oriental looking.
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Berny-Mac
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posted September 23, 2008 03:13 AM

maybe, but not so oriental that i would classify it as an asian faction

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blizzardboy
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posted September 23, 2008 03:18 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 03:23, 23 Sep 2008.

I'm just saying that a faction doesn't have to religiously stick to a certain real-life culture. The Academy faction is based on ancient Persia, but there's obviously some difference since it's floating in the sky. Plus units like the "Titan" are from Greek mythology and the "Rakhasa Raja's" are Hindu. Likewise, the Haven faction has a giant statue of a well-breasted angel chick that's 50 times bigger than a regular house and the castle itself has mage-towers and the height and fanciness of the castle is greatly exaggerated from the typical European castle.

edit: so it's okay if an "asian" faction digresses a little bit.
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MattII
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posted September 23, 2008 03:23 AM

The only 'oriental' buildings I can find in the Sylvan is the Hall, the Rampart in H3 is more 'Oriental' than the Sylvan.

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Berny-Mac
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posted September 23, 2008 03:23 AM

yeah i know, but sylvan doesn't seem very asian at all to me
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blizzardboy
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posted September 23, 2008 03:37 AM

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yeah i know, but sylvan doesn't seem very asian at all to me


No, not really. It has sort of a Shinto feel to it though with the castle. Plus Shinto temples were often in the woods and by water, which reminds of it as well:

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=60059&rendTypeId=4
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/417245795_1ae8e1fef6.jpg
http://twilight.mahoro-net.org/~aterizak/luckystar_fichiers/miyajima1kw4.jpeg
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Berny-Mac
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posted September 23, 2008 03:48 AM

well you got that right but the rest seems so hippy and...elvish...
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