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LucJPatenaude
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posted October 19, 2008 09:52 AM |
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Why Mod any versions of HoMM5? When...
...Patch 3.2 is still in the works for HoMM5:T.o.t.E. and, a major upgrade for it as well, promised by Erwan LeBreton.
I really do think that, the major upgrade could be an expansion only for the stand-alone edition of HoMM5:T.o.t.E..
I think that Modifications should only be implemented for, when the HoMM5:T.o.t.E. development project is fully and totally completed. A MOD is only useful when the game has, in time, matured up in aging to the point of needing to be further upgraded in major changes. Mainly, to adapt the game to a full fledge compatibility to the DirectX 10.x graphical superiority.
And, making sure that HoMM6 would start in the DirectX 10.x then, further itself into the realm of DirectX 11.x. Get my point here?
My present motto is: Never underestimate how fast time goes by and, how fast computer platforms upgrades and updates themselves. The next thing you get to realise is, your machine and games are, ancient junk.
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bronzephenix
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posted October 19, 2008 10:42 AM |
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You know, when homm5 came out we were promised 1 patch every month, and look how things are now... 3.1 patch took almost one year to be released for just a few changes, so how long is 3.2 going to take ?
Do you just want everyone to stop modding until a hypothetical 3.2 patch is done ? I think that new modding release help to keep an interest in homm5, if everyone stops like you want, don't expect the modding community to get back when the patch will be there in one or 2 years (they will have likely moved to something else).
Also waiting for the release to do any work would be horrible time management. At least, adapting a mod to a new version will make it possible to get everything 1 mont max after the patch, since most of the work would already be done (texturing and various things that are not related to the game version)
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Warmonger
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posted October 19, 2008 10:49 AM |
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Never underestimate how fast time goes by and, how fast computer platforms upgrades and updates themselves
Much faster than human brain they do!
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Nebdar
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posted October 19, 2008 12:29 PM |
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This is a joke or this is a joke
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Asheera
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posted October 19, 2008 03:35 PM |
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LUC STRIKES AGAIN!
Ok now seriously, it's not very hard to update the MODS when the next patch is released, so why not start making them from now?Quote:
The next thing you get to realise is, your machine and games are, ancient junk.
Well you're the only one that thinks a 2 year old game is ancient junk already.
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LucJPatenaude
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posted October 26, 2008 04:10 AM |
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Very Important Reminder to all Fans of HoMM series
May I remind you that none of this Forum threads topics have real impact to me. As none of them really appeal to me as a true and serious modification like upgrade to the game as an upper version to it. If it would have been a thoroughly serious one, Erwan LeBreton would be forced to call his next patch 3.6 instead of 3.2. And, the major upgrade, 3.8 or 4.0 instead of calling it HeroesV: T.o.t.E.-Complete Edition.
Please note: That version 1.6 and 2.1(Original and H.o.F.) are fully archived since a full year now. These two are so old that, they needed a video card of only 64Mb upto 128mb of video's reserve RAM onto an AGP 8x. Like, is there teenagers, today, whom would have such an ancient machine with such relic like video expansion slot? I really do not think so.
BTW: Those two, older versions, are not recognized as, being fully compatible with WinVista O.S. booted and configured fully, machine.
For a teenage student, an XP-SP3 O.S. onto their desktop or laptop machine would be stupendously cheap of their parents to do just that.
A new(not reworked, tweaked or, refurbished) notebook machine is on Vista only.
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bronzephenix
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posted October 26, 2008 04:30 AM |
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Well in the end we don't really care about your opinion 
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sith_of_ziost
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posted October 26, 2008 04:35 AM |
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I find the rantings of such slander quite boring, IMHO (no offense intended toward you, Luc). Time has no bearing on a game that has endless possibilities. Albeit, the game does have some...issues that need be addressed by further patches, updates, the like; however, that does not mean that the fans in the general aspect cannot implement their own innovations to make their own game that much better. Each person has different tastes, and to each their own. They can modify, tweak, alter, and otherwise adapt their own game to their liking, and as such, can post their upgrade to appeal to those who share similar fancies. Therefore, the modding of such a game as Heroes V is not only useful but a good practice for those intending to employ such knowledge in further fields of study.
As per the game being obsolete, that requires only a short answer: Build a house, its stands as it is. Paint a house, you make no change. You can upgrade a game as many times as you want, but still, its the game you started with, and is limited by such restrictions. Furthermore, it is not unlikely that teenagers would have such advanced computers to support ungodly amounts of video information. Some just do not have hordes of infinite cash to spend on such high priced objects (be it for their own reasons or the government's).
I find Vista as a frivolous and superfluous waste of money, and I believe in the tried and true operating systems. And a btw for you: One can choose their own operating system when buying the notebook/desktop and I would personally sway away from Vista. Just as you said, too much is incompatible with it.
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william
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posted October 26, 2008 04:43 AM |
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Lucj, when will it sink into your head that Vista is just a pile of crap? Seriously, if you really believe in what you are saying then something isn't right. If the topics in this forum have no impact on you, then why do you keep making posts here?
And just for your information, Windows XP SP3 is much better than Windows Vista. Windows Vista includes so much bloat ware it makes me sick (doesn't really make me sick but it contains a hell of a lot of bloatware  ).
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radar
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posted October 26, 2008 07:36 AM |
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Since when games are projected to work on certain video slot lol!?!?!?
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william
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posted October 26, 2008 07:45 AM |
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Like, is there teenagers, today, whom would have such an ancient machine with such relic like video expansion slot? I really do not think so.
That's where you are wrong. I have several machines that have lower than that, AGP 4x and even some that have SVGA cards. Why do I have them? To play old games of course. In my opinion, most of the older games are much more enjoyable than the newer games that we have today because they were simpler (not as in the difficulty of the AI but they weren't as complex in the game) and thus they were more fun to play. Take the classic game Doom for example. everyone knows that game, or at least should know it. That game doesn't have the best graphics but it sure as hell is a lot of fun to play.
You see, just because you think that newer machines are the way to go and that we should toss the older machines out, doesn't mean that the old machines are bad. They were good for the time that they were made in, and the games that were able to be played back then were good for it's time. Doom was one of the best games of it's time, but it isn't anymore since people these days play games like World of Warcraft, Diablo 2, HOMM and various other games. The game might be a bit dated, well actually very dated but that doesn't mean it's bad.
Every game had to start somewhere. Take for example HOMM1. That was made in the early 1990's and although it isn't the best in the series since it is quite dated, it is by no means a bad game. Quite the opposite in fact. If it wasn't for that game then we wouldn't have this entire series that we have known to love over the years.
If only you would listen to what other people have to say about computers and games in general then you might learn a thing or two. Instead of saying how good Vista is all the time, maybe just go and search up some other peoples opinions to learn a bit more about what is the best OS or better yet, why not go try out some other Operating Systems and then make some more opinions. Old doesn't necessarily mean bad. I hope you take that on board next time you want to make a post and complain about old systems like you usually do in most posts you have made.
And to finish it off, just a quick question. do you have the same way of thinking in regards to old movies as well?
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radar
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posted October 26, 2008 07:51 AM |
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Edited by radar at 07:52, 26 Oct 2008.
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Instead of saying how good Vista is all the time, maybe just go and search up some other peoples opinions to learn a bit more about what is the best OS or better yet, why not go try out some other Operating Systems and then make some more opinions.
I disagree William.
What for to ask others if you have experienced what's good for you by yourself?
No reason to change something which does the job.
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william
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posted October 26, 2008 07:56 AM |
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Well all he does is come here most of the time and just say how good Vista is. I'm willing to bet that he has hardly any knowledge of any other Operating Systems. Many people here (well at least I think so) would agree with me in saying that Vista is crap. I just want Lucj to realise that Vista isn't all that good as he makes it sound and that he should perhaps try some other Operating Systems to see what else is out there.
If he wants to stay with Vista then fine, but it gets kinda irritating after a while seeing him saying how good Vista is when it's not good at all. Plus his knowledge about computers is quite poor and what if a newbie sees this and listens to him? Lucj posts the wrong facts and he needs to realise this.
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radar
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posted October 26, 2008 07:59 AM |
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- William, stop complaining and try Vista.
- No need, XP is enough for me.
It's always easier to put yourself in someone other's situation. 
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Asheera
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posted October 26, 2008 01:33 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 15:09, 26 Oct 2008.
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Well all he does is come here most of the time and just say how good Vista is. I'm willing to bet that he has hardly any knowledge of any other Operating Systems.
lol don't worry, actually he has knowledge of other Operating Systems.
But you have to understand that for Luc everything that is new is totally awesome, and everything that is old is pure crap - so Vista will be crap for him as well when something newer is released
I don't know why this guy is so 'proud' of new stuff, like he himself creates them and is proud of his creations You will never be able to convince Luc that something old is better than something new, trust me
Luc can't post so he told me to post instead (through a HCM)
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Not quite, Ash. It would seem, now, that the 64bit O.S. of Vista will be my next choice for a major upgrade of my machine. An average upgrade would be an acceptable upgrade to me as of now and, will be in the 32bit range anyway. I do not see a major upgrade for my own machine for another 1 and half years(until Spring of 2010). Moreover, I could still be service packing Vista upto SP3 by Fall of 2010.
Furthermore, Microsoft is still suggesting to Vista owners/users to upgrade even more to WinServer 2008. Well, that really did not stick to me. A Server O.S. on a stand-alone machine? Get real, MS!
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TheDeath
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posted October 26, 2008 03:16 PM |
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William, you have to understand, Luc isn't even to be taken seriously... What he says is like reading from a political speech full of pointless rant -- you know, he thinks his BS verbosity might impress noobs that he is knowledgeable. I take him as funny as AVGN in some cases and never seriously. It's completely pointless to argue with him.
Luc you don't impress anyone with your verbosity. Can't you get that in your tiny head?
and you are acting like a 5 year old who just got his new gifts, no offense
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broadstrong
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posted October 26, 2008 04:22 PM |
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I don't know about the bloatware, but what makes Vista not-so-impressive for me is that it has only support for newest MS Office and newer games like HOMM5, Crysis and Spore (just to name a few). I have quite a number of old games and I still play them from time to time as I liked their simpicity and good gameplay (heard that a lot of new games nowadays has good graphics but poor gameplay). Pity XP does not support DOS very well and I have no skill in installing the DOS emulator.
For those who have the luxury of two or more computers (desktops or notebooks), perhaps have different OS in the computers to have the "best of both systems" (though the lack of XP support a few years later could be an issue).
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LucJPatenaude
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posted November 02, 2008 05:22 AM |
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Now, look at the poor modders of NCF Project. They have to modify and improve the main NCF.exe program of their MOD so, it can work onto version 3.1 of HoMMV-T.o.t.E.
Windows Vista(6) has, now, past the 180 million copies sold world wide and, climbing. Only one year to go for Windows 7 to be on retail shelves of any electronics/computer store of the entire world. Windows 6 will be the most acclaimed O.S. by that time since, it will become the classic O.S. of the late years of the first decade of the 21st Century. Windows 5(XP) will be a very old and totally redundant O.S. for older people than me(currently doing my 41st year in this Earthly world).
So, do not be too surprised and shocked at windows 6(Vista) with the SP1 already included on disk, at reaching a very nice range of 250 million(quarter of a billion) copies sold by the end of next year and, maybe upto 333 million(one third of a billion) copies by Spring of 2010(Most of them sold with the SP2 auto. included and installed on disk). HoMM6 will have to be developed for Windows 6 and 7 minimum.
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Warmonger
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posted November 02, 2008 06:27 AM |
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Windows Vista(6) has, now, past the 180 million copies sold world wide and, climbing. Only one year to go for Windows 7 to be on retail shelves of any electronics/computer store of the entire world. Windows 6 will be the most acclaimed O.S. by that time since, it will become the classic O.S. of the late years of the first decade of the 21st Century.
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Now, look at the poor modders of NCF Project. They have to modify and improve the main NCF.exe program of their MOD so, it can work onto version 3.1 of HoMMV-T.o.t.E.
Luckily the don't suck as some of the members and work hard to improve the game experience against all adverities.
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VokialBG
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posted November 02, 2008 08:52 AM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 08:57, 02 Nov 2008.
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Welcome back, Lucy!
Don't bother with him, he is here for his standart manipulation
P.S.
Next time your floodprotect will raise to 31.7 years! (So be careful!)
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