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Thread: Duel Map - Random Duels Thread [ This thread is 59 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 (15) 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 ]
TowerLord
TowerLord


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Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted January 09, 2009 10:19 PM

@Elvin,

Magic Immunity is ruled out against damage spells, as your opponent will just focus on other stacks, and leave the one with immunity for the troops to kill.

Orcs are a special case, as they can shatter, so they have their chances(if they guess the correct shatter that is), but haven, inferno and might build sylvan have lower chances of victory. Dwarfs are another special case as they are at the edge of might and magic and also they have runes.
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Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 09, 2009 10:33 PM

Pure might sylvan yes, that's because I don't add more favoured enemies. If I did then destructive sylvan would instantly become a lot better.
Inferno depends, it can occasionally have trouble vs dungeon, fortress or sylvan but otherwise it's decent. That's why they have the quest to get cloak of sylanna, an early powerful meteor or well placed implosion can mess them up badly.
Haven doesn't have any problems, it has fared well vs any opponent.
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JoonasTo
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Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted January 10, 2009 11:47 AM

I beat Elvin's Fortress with Inferno just now.

Got lucky with arties. Since dragon ring gave my seducers a start before the flamelords and machine ring is really nice. I was preparing for destro fortress so that's why the cape.

Perks, I also had all gating perks, you see ballista perks and imbued mark and some other skills.

replay
My plan was to block his troops from moving and spare devils for end game if possible while weakening him with other troops and primarily with gates and ballista. I knew a long game was ahead so gates and summon pitlords were going to be crucial. Turned out to be much easier than I had suspected even though nihgtmare fear didn't trigger even once and he had dwarven luck stop quite lovely some of my spells.

A glorious victory for the devil kind!
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Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 10, 2009 11:54 AM

Yeah my hands were tied before it even began - berserkers blocked, bears blocked, flamelords seduced, magmas stunned No chance to deal some massive damage or at least hope to get to the ballista in time. My greatest mistake was getting no tap runes, my mana run out pretty fast and the only spell that benefited from my spellpower was resurrection that I could not cast On the other hand if I had taken destructive Joonas had the right counter but at least I'd be able to destroy that ballista. Well played.
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Radar
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Castle/Haven player
posted January 10, 2009 12:07 PM

zomg flamewave triggered with every single strike

interesting thing is that after you used rune of thunderclap on flamelords and attacked, the flamewaved stacks were signed with stunning animation, but I guess it wasn't effective?
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Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 10, 2009 12:10 PM

I think only the first target is, I've noticed in other games too.
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted January 10, 2009 12:22 PM

Would be a little too effective don't you think?

But that was propably one of my best games if not the best. First round went just the way I wanted it to. Except that resisted puppet master.
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Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 10, 2009 12:32 PM

Dwarven luck + boots, I was surprised you even managed to puppet me once
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted January 10, 2009 12:36 PM

Well the other puppet was not needed, just made things nicer for me.
The first resistance hurt though. It allowed shooting and almost managed to get rid of my black bear blocking hounds. Luckily you put your shieldguards there pretty well to keep them blocking them to some effect.

All in all mark was more needed than those puppets.
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Asheera
Asheera


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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
posted January 10, 2009 01:11 PM

Nice to see Inferno winning as well against Fortress

btw here's something funny from the first Mark of the Damned strike:

"Nebiros hits Magma Dragon with Excruciating Strike: 666 damage dealt (2 died)"
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted January 10, 2009 01:13 PM

Noticed that too.
A sure sign that I was going to win.
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Zamfir
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Supreme Hero
posted January 10, 2009 01:17 PM

It was an omen.

[off-topic]How can Asheera be Undefeatable with 5500 posts?[/off-topic]
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Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 10, 2009 02:28 PM

Meanwhile amongst my replays here are the least popular matchups. I'm hoping we'll have more of those in the future

Academy v Necro
Haven v Inferno
Academy v Fortress
Necro v Inferno
Sylvan v Inferno

To think that the first two are considered mortal enemies.
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Asheera
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posted January 10, 2009 02:36 PM

Academy vs Necro was pretty frequent in the Tournament though, at least around the time I played.

Academy vs Fortress along with Haven vs Inferno are indeed the rarest.
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Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 10, 2009 02:39 PM

I am talking overall. Haven vs orcs and fortress vs orcs are 8+ and those are less than 4. It is possible some have been missed but it's not hard to tell that people avoid them
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veco
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I know it's sudden
posted January 10, 2009 02:51 PM

sylvan vs inferno - that doesn't surprise me, I know I'd never go for such a match up (me being inferno )
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Asheera
Asheera


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Elite Assassin
posted January 10, 2009 03:29 PM

Why? I love that kind of game, remember that close one I had with Phoenix? (I won with Inferno btw)

Inferno is not that bad against Sylvan, because you have easy access to Dark Magic to take care of the Arcanes and such...
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Mr. Sandman
posted January 10, 2009 06:38 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 18:45, 10 Jan 2009.

I think Inferno has the advantage as of 4.1 against Sylvan. Some factions simply tend to have a hard time against certain factions (like Haven with Sylvan, Necro with Dungeon) and Sylvan has a hard time with Inferno. Double dark magic from hero + seducers can neutralize high druids/arcanes really fast, often times preventing channeling from ever happening depending on the ATB rolls, and the inferno army + gating tends to outdo the sylvan army with favored enemies.
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Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 10, 2009 06:44 PM

My experience tells me otherwise. Either way it is not as bad a matchup as it used to be.
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veco
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I know it's sudden
posted January 10, 2009 06:58 PM

Againts high defence Sylvan your charging Nightmares(hoping to score a Fear attack) and Firehounds won't do very significant damage. And if you try gating instead you'll get obliterated with Emeralds, Winddancers and even Sprites 1st turn. Follod by Deep Freeze rain. Or a Mass haste afterwards (Emeralds with 22 init - seen it on Duel Map).
Swift Mind seems to be a must to counter either Druids or Arcanes...
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