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Thread: Duel Map - Random Duels Thread [ This thread is 59 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 (54) 55 56 57 58 59 ]
Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 08, 2011 04:32 PM

I was actually wondering, seeing that some units are never used, why you didn't make a balance mod.
still see nothing for cerberi, pit lords or minotaur guards
and isn't it more logical to nerf the grim raider rather than boost the brisk raider? after all, the paladin doesn't benefit from +20% damage per cell.

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Deathy
Deathy


Known Hero
Angels Galore
posted January 08, 2011 09:15 PM

well hamachi i now installed properly so i guess i might post my MSN now, Deathy56@hotmail.com (just as a note, if i don't answer in maximum of 15 minutes after im contacted, im not on my comp )

i live in the GMT+2 timezone tho so americans and asians should be aware that you might not have easy time catching me haha

it's also been quite a LONG time since ive last played against other humans, so don't expect anyone great haha.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 08, 2011 10:06 PM

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@Fauch
Have you ever tried to reach a compromise on competitive H5 on what the best balance is? Trust me, nothing can come out of that I only started changing those after I gave up on organizing tourneys. And the point is not to nerf an upgrade but to make the other equal, except maybe in ridiculous cases.
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 09, 2011 04:53 PM

isn't it a ridiculous case? speed 8 and ignore all the defense? kinda like the thunder thane with battle rage?

I suppose a compromise would be hard to reach. but I guess you should be able to agree about some specific creatures.

(it's funny, I see you chose to nerf the vampire prince, while you could make the lord stronger. it doesn't make sense (I mean, in the original game), why is it weaker and slower?


I've only played against one friend, and he would play with any mod I brought.

my idea of balance might be different from yours, I do not consider that castles should be of similar strength but that units of a same level should be of similar strength, given that you can meet them as wandering army. for example, if there are bears in front of your mine, it's unfair, since they are stronger than all other level 3 units.

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veco
veco


Legendary Hero
I know it's sudden
posted January 09, 2011 05:01 PM

I'd take on bears over arcanes/ghosts/cerberi anytime
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but I'll try to make it hurts too

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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 10, 2011 01:12 AM

over arcane archers (and master hunters) it was predictable, not sure about the 2 others.

yeah, actually that wouldn't be so easy to balance, better to face bellicists than arcane archers... well, unless you have no archers

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Deathy
Deathy


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Angels Galore
posted January 10, 2011 07:28 PM

thanks to everyone who has played duels with me so far has been fun definetly. i just wish i wasn't such an idiot that i forget to save the replays so often :/ (ive only saved one so far) i personally want replays of my playing because win or lose, i can most of the time find something i can do better

and if anyone is up for duels in the next 3ish hours, just MSN me

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 10, 2011 11:23 PM

Deathy, the honour of posting the replays is all yours
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Deathy
Deathy


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Angels Galore
posted January 11, 2011 02:46 PM

well, as you wish. unfortunately like i said yesterday, i forgot to save most replays of the duels ive had, only 3 replays have been saved so far so i guess i could put them here for people to download


My first game against SKPrimus, me being Haven, him being Dungeon.
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26194123/DeathyvsSKPRIMUS.sav

My third game against Elvin, me being Inferno, him being Stronghold.
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26194192/DeathyvsElvin.sav

My fourth game against Elvin, me being Academy, him being Haven.
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26194213/DeathyvsElvin2.sav

feel free to criticize my playing if you wish to

also note about the third game against Elvin, he didn't disconnect, we decided to quit early because the game looked sure loss for him.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 11, 2011 03:01 PM
Edited by Elvin at 15:05, 11 Jan 2011.

You kidding? I rained meteor shower all over your forces, 6 casts on the first turn If not for their creative potential, I should have banned high druids

Haven vs academy was great.
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 11, 2011 04:21 PM
Edited by Fauch at 16:21, 11 Jan 2011.

Quote:
6 casts on the first turn


you had 5 stacks of pit lords?

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Deathy
Deathy


Known Hero
Angels Galore
posted January 11, 2011 04:31 PM

yeah, the academy vs haven game is the best duel ive had so far, i was so sure i would lose thanks to not having defense skill at all. raise dead and the phoenix were definetly life savers

haha yeah, your mass meteor shower was definetly insane sight even if i had spread my units, i don't think i could have won. and considering how my berserk got resisted all the time, i doubt i could have done anything against your high druids either too bad i forgot to save the replay once again sigh :/

well one more replay saved, this time me as haven against pitlord as fortress.
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26196181/DeathyvsPitlord.sav

although pitlord played good and deserved to win, i can't help but to think that divine vengeance had alot to do with the result. i wish i had mentored mass haste for myself, the lack of it also hampered me alot. quite frankly tho, im not sure what haven could do against DV using Fortress.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 11, 2011 04:54 PM
Edited by Elvin at 16:55, 11 Jan 2011.

You did start with mass haste, no other buffs though. I believe he would have won anyway but dv was powerful indeed. That said 18 power is by no means the norm for dwarves either..

I welcome all comments on balance, keep them coming.

Oh and here is the meteor shower battle
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Deathy
Deathy


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Angels Galore
posted January 11, 2011 05:35 PM

actually pitlord was the one to cast mass haste at the beginning, not me only mass spells i had was deflect missile and benediction.

i think biggest impact from DV came when he killed almost all my angels. but agreed that 18 spellpower was pretty huge. not to mention all the mistakes i made(like for example not focusing on his priests and just allowing them to fireball away )

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PitLord
PitLord


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posted January 11, 2011 05:50 PM

yea was a good game, but in my opionen the version where Divine vengeance, armageddon, word of dark and word of light are banned is much better

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WindlordRyu
WindlordRyu

Tavern Dweller
posted January 12, 2011 12:48 AM

I'd like to play some duels. I'm generally online at evenings GMT+1
dragonmaster_ryu (at) hotmail.com
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Deathy
Deathy


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Angels Galore
posted January 13, 2011 02:49 PM
Edited by Deathy at 19:11, 13 Jan 2011.

well more replays incase people are interested. maybe there are few other people out there too who enjoy watching replays every now and then and i even remember to save them more often nowadays.

first game is me as Inferno against Pitlord as Haven.
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26232945/DeathyvsPitlord2.sav

lack of frenzy and PM in this game was really annoying but vampirism really worked in my favour.

second game is me as Stronghold against Pitlord as Haven(again)
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26233023/DeathyvsPitlord3.sav


this game was really epic struggle of orcs against mass dark magic and negative luck. definetly worth a watch in my opinion

third game is my second game against SKPrimus, got the replay from him.
him as Haven against me as Stronghold.

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26233097/Primus_maev_Deathy_kilg.sav


this game just pretty much shows how bad i was in my first serious battle with Stronghold. hero build wasn't very good and the game itself should show everyone why.

fourth game is me as Haven against SKPrimus as Academy.

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26233150/DeathyvsSKPrimus3.sav


Primus lacked PM and Frenzy but nevertheless had alot of spells to weaken my troops. i made some mistakes myself too, like my timing with the righteous mights.

hope you guys enjoy

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted January 13, 2011 04:10 PM

It would help if you placed the links between [url] and [/ url].
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Deathy
Deathy


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Angels Galore
posted January 13, 2011 07:12 PM

haha well your wish has been granted

im just too used to the old school copy-pasting.

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PitLord
PitLord


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posted January 13, 2011 07:32 PM

yeah, the orc vs haven game is definetely worth watching!

but i need to say that i spent 5 skillpoints in warmachines which i couldnt use, because i hadnt enough gold for ballista in the match where i played haven vs inferno xD. the other game where i played inferno and he haven is worth watching too, but sadly i am always forgetting to save the replays

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