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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted November 29, 2008 04:46 AM

Fortress

Please post any things u know about fortress that havent been mentioned.Ill start off and then ill post more in time,
i hope ppl will participate and somebody will learn smth new.(ps.if such thread has alreday been created then pls post a link,
since i couldnt find it)5
Fortress:
An overall rank for this castle is 2nd or 3rd place,in tie with stronghold.Powerful creatures,great abilities,one of the best heroes in the game.
The only problem is the lack of good mage guild.
1-Gnolls,they are average 1st lvl creatures,that can ease ur earl game.The upgrade of them to Maradeur isnt necessary,the only        noticible change ull notice is speed change.
2-lizards,they are as well an average shooters with low attack and high defense which in my opinon isnt the way for a shooter,upgrade isnt imoprtant,but if can be done is good.
3-serpent fly,very great unit,not only has high speed for its lvl,it aslo dipsells beneficial spells of the enemy,a great unit to have in ur army from day 1,will give u chance to do 1st,an upgrade of them is a good choice that adds a weakening strike and adds even higher speed.
4-basilisk,a strong creature with great ability to have a 20% to freeze the  target,lasts 3 turns,whenever target is attacked it receives 50 % the initial dmg and unfreezes,the only lack is its speed,5.That is why there is an upgrade for them that increases its by 2.                            
5-gorgons,are the one of the best and are best after upgrade.Very tough deadling a lot of dmg.Dont waste them against 1-5th lvl creatures,attackonly high lvls.Mighty gorgons have chance of doing death stare.The ammount of killed units=x/10,where x is the ammount of Mgorgons in ur army.If ammount of gorgons is not equal #,ex:24 gorgons,so 2 creatures will die and there will be a 40% for 1 more creature.
6-wyverns,are one of the weakest lvl 6th creatures,their ability,poisoning, makes them a little better.Least ammount of HP poisoned is 10%,highest 50%.The ammount of poisoning will be reduced with each turn,but it can be removed by cure or dispel.Their real strenght is in their #s,they can easily be given to u at the hives(from 6-18 per hive)
7-Hydras,are very tough,are low on dmg,but hex attack and no enemy retaliation says it all.Upgrade is definate,the increase in Hp and speed is very important.They are also very cheap and dont need that many recousrces to be build or upgraded compared to other lvl 7 creatures.

Heroes:
1.Bron is a great starting hero.Having a few basilisks on day 1,what esle do u want?Also with time increases the chance to freeze target.        
2.Alkin,a gorgon specialist,make the game a lvl 7th hunt.increases att and def of gorgons and with time their chance to death stare.
3.Tazar is one of the best heroes in game.His defense speciality is very helpful.The huge misconception that ppl make about Tazar or any other hero with defense spec is that it has nothing to do with defense.And that on 20 lvl they will not have 115% of dmg reduced.Here is how it counts:
5th lvl=(15%(exp armor)+15%(armor)*5(heroes lvl)*5%)=18.75% dmg reduced.
10th lvl=(15%+15%*10*5%)=22.5% dmg reduced
20th lvl=(15%+15%*20*5%)=30% dmg reduced
     
       
   

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ELOrocks17
ELOrocks17

Tavern Dweller
posted November 29, 2008 08:50 PM

40 Mighty Gorgons, with a Hero that specializes in Gorgons, and casting "slayer" on the MG's could probaly take out 10 Titans in 1 blow! How is that for power!
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Hell_Wizard
Hell_Wizard


Famous Hero
posted November 29, 2008 08:53 PM

Even more. With the Death Stare they will be at least 25 (With equal Att/Def)
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juderiverman
juderiverman

Tavern Dweller
posted November 29, 2008 10:30 PM
Edited by juderiverman at 22:48, 29 Nov 2008.

gorgon is the focus. the ability rules.

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2.Alkin,a gorgon specialist,make the game a lvl 7th hunt.increases att and def of gorgons and with time their chance to death stare.


It has been tested that the chance of death stare would not increase under the command of Alkin.


as for the heroes, witches are less attractive.

Heroes specializing in eagle eye, in mysticism, in navigation, could be better modified to heroes specializing in "shield", in "quicksand", in "slow".
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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted November 29, 2008 10:44 PM

little ppl play mages at all,esp if u have might castle like fortress or stronghold who cares about mage,plus to that they only have 3 lvl mage guild.

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juderiverman
juderiverman

Tavern Dweller
posted November 29, 2008 10:55 PM
Edited by juderiverman at 03:58, 30 Nov 2008.

as for the magic guild, witches can certainly conquer other towns to learn higher level magic.

would it be more specialized if heroes can only access the magic guild in the corresponding town, say, witches can only access the magic guild in Fortress and clerics can only access the magic guild in Castle?
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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted November 29, 2008 11:00 PM

any mught hero can be as good mage as a magic hero,it all depends on the spells u get.Getting other town and building lvl5 mage guilh and getting some dumb magic isnt gonna get u anywhere.Most of magic i get is from advanture map and never from mage guild.

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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted December 01, 2008 09:40 AM

Quote:
Please post any things u know about fortress that havent been mentioned.Ill start off and then ill post more in time,
i hope ppl will participate and somebody will learn smth new.(ps.if such thread has alreday been created then pls post a link,
since i couldnt find it)5
Fortress:
An overall rank for this castle is 2nd or 3rd place,in tie with stronghold.Powerful creatures,great abilities,one of the best heroes in the game.
The only problem is the lack of good mage guild.
1-Gnolls,they are average 1st lvl creatures,that can ease ur earl game.The upgrade of them to Maradeur isnt necessary,the only        noticible change ull notice is speed change.
2-lizards,they are as well an average shooters with low attack and high defense which in my opinon isnt the way for a shooter,upgrade isnt imoprtant,but if can be done is good.
3-serpent fly,very great unit,not only has high speed for its lvl,it aslo dipsells beneficial spells of the enemy,a great unit to have in ur army from day 1,will give u chance to do 1st,an upgrade of them is a good choice that adds a weakening strike and adds even higher speed.
4-basilisk,a strong creature with great ability to have a 20% to freeze the  target,lasts 3 turns,whenever target is attacked it receives 50 % the initial dmg and unfreezes,the only lack is its speed,5.That is why there is an upgrade for them that increases its by 2.                            
5-gorgons,are the one of the best and are best after upgrade.Very tough deadling a lot of dmg.Dont waste them against 1-5th lvl creatures,attackonly high lvls.Mighty gorgons have chance of doing death stare.The ammount of killed units=x/10,where x is the ammount of Mgorgons in ur army.If ammount of gorgons is not equal #,ex:24 gorgons,so 2 creatures will die and there will be a 40% for 1 more creature.
6-wyverns,are one of the weakest lvl 6th creatures,their ability,poisoning, makes them a little better.Least ammount of HP poisoned is 10%,highest 50%.The ammount of poisoning will be reduced with each turn,but it can be removed by cure or dispel.Their real strenght is in their #s,they can easily be given to u at the hives(from 6-18 per hive)
7-Hydras,are very tough,are low on dmg,but hex attack and no enemy retaliation says it all.Upgrade is definate,the increase in Hp and speed is very important.They are also very cheap and dont need that many recousrces to be build or upgraded compared to other lvl 7 creatures.

Heroes:
1.Bron is a great starting hero.Having a few basilisks on day 1,what esle do u want?Also with time increases the chance to freeze target.        
2.Alkin,a gorgon specialist,make the game a lvl 7th hunt.increases att and def of gorgons and with time their chance to death stare.
3.Tazar is one of the best heroes in game.His defense speciality is very helpful.The huge misconception that ppl make about Tazar or any other hero with defense spec is that it has nothing to do with defense.And that on 20 lvl they will not have 115% of dmg reduced.Here is how it counts:
5th lvl=(15%(exp armor)+15%(armor)*5(heroes lvl)*5%)=18.75% dmg reduced.
10th lvl=(15%+15%*10*5%)=22.5% dmg reduced
20th lvl=(15%+15%*20*5%)=30% dmg reduced
   


Nikita, it would be nice if you stop giving people advice about things you dont have a clue. Especially the part about death stare is just plain wrong.

I know i will get another penalty for this, but almost ALL of your post in the library are JUST PLAIN wrong. People come here to get some info about this game, they may think you actually know smtn, which you dont.
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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 01, 2008 01:27 PM

Got to dig deep into the threads to learn Nikky.
Try finding Dissecting Fortress.

Back in my days I mastered the Fortress.
I learned how to win countless battles with the fewest troops.
I learned many different strategies to travel fast for a slow town.
I learned how to survive in final battles.

I love the teleport Expert water combo.
Mass Haste dont hurt either.

I remember one game vs Crag hack.

He had tactics & he bunched up the heroes.
I waited on my turns.
On my Hydras turn I cast teleport & hit about 4-5 creatures at once.
Got morale & did it again.
Flies turn & I cast mass haste.
by the time the K Hydras hit the same groups again, I almost destroyed the whole army with Hydras alone.

Point is that there are many strategies using Fortress.
Great town to win even throngs of creatures.


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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted December 02, 2008 01:31 AM
Edited by Nikita at 02:13, 02 Dec 2008.

@Xar the part about death stare is right,maybe not for the hero giving more chance for it as some 1 mentioned.If u dont like it,make ur own or do something good instead of trying to find smth to quote from other people.Who do u think u r,calm down

@Accy,thxs but i dont need to learn those things,the main is the hero and his stats,skills,army comes after.Not about how many Hydras ull have.If u think im a noob lets play

Quote:
I learned how to win countless battles with the fewest troops.

It is easy to do that using ur logic.Hydras no retaliation.Flies give great speed and wyvern will be at high numbers.The rest,get u hero good lvl and stats.
Quote:
I learned many different strategies to travel fast for a slow town.

IOI



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ELOrocks17
ELOrocks17

Tavern Dweller
posted December 02, 2008 01:45 AM

The way I do it is to have 2 stacks of mutant dragonflies. One on each end. I can either deploy them both to weaken level 6 and 7 creatures or shooters, or I can have them both shield my range striker from attack. Either way, before my opponent has a chance to move, they are already at a disadvantage.
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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 02, 2008 01:45 AM

I am too old & I have not played the game in like 5 years lol.
Not many people or critics when it came to strategies & pointers.
Especially towards Fortress.

I dont have time to deal with Little Nikky
Good movie too
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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted December 02, 2008 01:53 AM

I was just saying that,because im tired of others been smart as*** about other's ppls posts.Why do u call me that?Where did u get it from?
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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 02, 2008 02:00 AM

I always give people names when i feel it.

Angelito is Angelo lol.
Pandora is Pandy or if i really feel it, Pandasia lol.

Dont worry I am not asking for a date

Plus Xarlicks is a pissy guy. Known him here since I was new lol
He is a pretty boy german freakazoid though
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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted December 02, 2008 02:02 AM

np,but can u make me a more guy name than that?
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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 02, 2008 02:03 AM

I am alot smarter then people on here give me credit for
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted December 02, 2008 02:44 AM

Quote:
I am too old & I have not played the game in like 5 years lol.



Too old?  And what's stopping you to play now?

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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted December 02, 2008 08:28 AM

I am played out lol.
I played it alot for fun & TOH.

I love the game I played out the game like alot of older toh players.


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doomnezeu
doomnezeu


Supreme Hero
Miaumiaumiau
posted December 02, 2008 09:24 AM

Quote:
I am alot smarter then people on here give me credit for


I am still collecting money from that "credit" thing. I HAZ MILLIONZ!

That means Acu is pure win, which I agree. So don't think bad of him.
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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted December 02, 2008 09:25 AM
Edited by Xarfax111 at 12:55, 02 Dec 2008.

Quote:
@Xar the part about death stare is right,maybe not for the hero giving more chance for it as some 1 mentioned.If u dont like it,make ur own or do something good instead of trying to find smth to quote from other people.


No sorry this part is completely wrong, which is in my eyes not a good thing to post in this library. If you read some of my threads you will find the correct description.

Quote:
Who do u think u r,calm down


Im the one who is correcting wanabee-experts, as noone else does, and my pulse wasnt rising a sec while writing.
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