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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Recanters is the best artifact
Thread: Recanters is the best artifact [ This thread is 3 pages long: 1 (2) 3 ]
StormWarning
StormWarning


Promising
Famous Hero
Archmage of Thunder
posted December 11, 2001 04:20 PM

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Ok Storm warning here is a scenario...
We are playing a map and I see recanters very, meanwhile, you you get tower and say, Soly. All I need to choose is a hero with offense or armourer, and knowing I have that insurance policy in the bank, I develop a good might hero, and dont worry about guilds, channelling all that extra stuff into building faster and more. Then you see my hero, and knowing you can decimate me easily with chain or whatever, you attack. Then u get that little message " The recanters cloak prevents spells of level 3 or higher from being cast in combat", and of course, i laugh my ass off


That's just it ... you have to see it early. If you don't, you have no way of knowing that you should build that way. If you decide to risk it anyway and you don't find it, you're in trouble.
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Zsa
Zsa


Famous Hero
posted December 11, 2001 04:43 PM

Not really, even if u see it early ...

I have no use for rencanters in a game I'm playing right now and I've seen it day 2-3. So, there, sometimes u have better options than rencanters cloak, trust me .

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Ichon
Ichon


Responsible
Famous Hero
posted December 11, 2001 05:47 PM

grab recanters anyway...

Zsa- unless you have red orb, you should grab the recanters, it's possible your enemy could benefit from it even if you can't. Any good artifact should be taken, even if you can't use it, deny its use to your enemy.

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Zsa
Zsa


Famous Hero
posted December 11, 2001 10:10 PM

To Ichon

LoL Ichon, thanx but I took it like a week ago on that map (we didn't finish the game ye - STPUID ZONE). I know that if the enemy gets it I'm fuc@ed cause it messes up ALL my plans. And anyway, it's always good to get some experience from it .

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Ichon
Ichon


Responsible
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posted December 11, 2001 11:37 PM

LOL Zsa

Well, I was thinking you had a huge amount of confidence in your plan to just leave it alone. Yep! I usually try to get every artifact for the experience also- the one reason I don't choose Inferno or Necro most games when I don't go random is because of that reason.

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Batvanio
Batvanio


Adventuring Hero
Archimage
posted December 12, 2001 02:13 AM

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I am never using the Recanters!
It get's me away from my favourite 4 and 5 lvl spells.
I always play a good mage.
Sorry but magic is better.
The only good of Recanters Cloak is for sacrifice on the altar for XP.
And if you are wearing Recanters this won't save you from my Blind or Lightning.



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thunderknight
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posted December 12, 2001 05:13 AM

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For instance, magic hero`s best attack spell is chain lightining, but ur might hero have mass haste. U haste and suddenly the chain aint that great anymore, or magic hero have ressurection. U place ur troops on top off his units, suddenly ress aint that impressive. Loads of strats to make if ur might without recanters. Its always more tricky being magic, unless its those wild stats game with plenty of relics

Hmmm, sometimes the best spell is exp berserk. ;P

And a might hero with mass haste ??? well, maybe he/she should be called a might-and-magic hero or better, hero of might and magic

As a tower player, I like to get recanter and red orb............so that my opponents cannot use them.

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AndiAngelsla...
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posted December 12, 2001 05:27 AM

you guys got something wrong here

blind, mass haste, mass slow, anti magic, berserk, basically all NO damage spells, clone too, are the weapons of a might hero.

the ONLY weapon of magic heroes are damage spells and spells where power counts, like resurrection or animate,i dont count silly spells like dimdoor here.

what you mean if i have recanters i have to fear your magic hero with blind lol, your army will die faster than you can look against a real might hero if blind is your best magic spell...

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Batvanio
Batvanio


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Archimage
posted December 12, 2001 06:26 AM

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In my opinion defensive spells like anti-magic, clone, or offensive like berserk are not might heroes weapons.
The reason is that you must have Wisdom and at least one Magic like Air or Earth  for mass spells, and this is a magic hero, is it not?
I think that Might heroes doesn't have wisdom and does not expert in any magic. In this view when I blind you or do a mass slow , I presume you could not do a mass dispel. And even if you dispel some of my magic, I also presume that as
a might hero you do not have enough spell points to mathch my own.
Don't forget forgetfullness also

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AndiAngelsla...
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posted December 12, 2001 07:22 AM

you obviously have no idea what you talking about...every barbarian goes for mass haste, every might hero usually also takes wisdom, earth and such, just coz i have Hack it doesnt mean i dont have any spells.
really sorry to say it in such a way, but you need to learn to play the game before you can talk about it...

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Batvanio
Batvanio


Adventuring Hero
Archimage
posted December 12, 2001 07:43 AM

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Ok andi,
But, agree that hero's title or speciality doesn't make
him a might hero.
If Crag Hack is "barbarian" by title, and has "Offence" as speciality, my opinion is that that doesn't makes him a might hero. It depends on his post development.
If he has Wisdom and Air and Earth Magic Expert, than you can't call him might hero anymore, cause he is already experienced Magic wielder.

In fact I will post a new thread for this to see others opinion.

There is always a chance I am wrong and you are right.
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Defreni
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posted December 12, 2001 09:19 AM

Well thats a pretty good chance (That u are mistaking )

If u do have recanters early in the game I usually skip the wisdom slot for my might hero, but alwyas go for exp air earth or water if I can get away with it. Especially the mightiest might hero of em all Barbarians, and to some point beastmasters are sorely in need of haste, otherwise it takes forever to get them mighties or ancients across the board.
Lightning bolt is sheit if u have for instance a fully developed stronghold town. U need some sick stats and the air orb to do any damage that can be felt, and after u have thrown that ligtning on one off the stacks, the might hero smiles, throws expert haste and deals out twice the damage u just did with ur lightning bolt. And on top off that he gets first move in second round aswell, due to the haste.
My guess is that u wont have much off an army left when u are ready to throw ur second lightning bolt

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Zsa
Zsa


Famous Hero
posted December 12, 2001 01:19 PM

Foolish

he he he ,
that's right Defreni .

And Batvaino, u r wrong concerning the mightmagic hero stuff.
Every town has two starting hero classes : a MIGHT one and a MAGIC one ( knight and cleric, ranger and druid, alchemist and wizard, barbarian and battle mage etc.)

To assume that a knight or barbarian can be a magic hero is foolish. A hero doesn't change his class even if u have powerfull spells for a might hero.

That simple .

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LordLazy
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Wood cleaner
posted October 27, 2002 01:24 PM

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blind, mass haste, mass slow, anti magic, berserk, basically all NO damage spells, clone too, are the weapons of a might hero.

the ONLY weapon of magic heroes are damage spells and spells where power counts, like resurrection or animate,i dont count silly spells like dimdoor here.

what you mean if i have recanters i have to fear your magic hero with blind lol, your army will die faster than you can look against a real might hero if blind is your best magic spell...


Couldn't agree more, let those morons play magic heroes they're own way, and let them lose

Anyway, if might hero have recanters you still should have a nice lighning bolt
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csarmi
csarmi


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posted October 27, 2002 06:08 PM

Recanters Cloak - What is that and what does it do?

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AndiAngelsla...
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Famous Hero
posted October 27, 2002 06:43 PM

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Recanters Cloak - What is that and what does it do?


lol...play the game tosser!
about the artifacts, boots and gloves should be L3 and make the diplo ring and sash L2...recanters surely can be powerful, BUT it isnt always a game winner, i rate speed boots for example higher if you get em early

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HeyYou
HeyYou


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and beloved food provider.
posted October 28, 2002 12:27 AM

8 Reasons Why the Recanter's Cloak Sux

1. Blind
2. Mass Slow
3. Mass Curse
4. Mass Weakness
5. Mass Haste (friendly)
6. Mass Bless (friendly)
7. Mass Stone Skin & Shield (friendly)
8. Blind (worth mentioning twice)

The only time I would equip Recanter's Cloak is for a low-power garrison hero who didn't have lvl. 3+ spells anyhow.
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LordLazy
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Wood cleaner
posted October 28, 2002 01:29 AM

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1. Blind
2. Mass Slow
3. Mass Curse
4. Mass Weakness
5. Mass Haste (friendly)
6. Mass Bless (friendly)
7. Mass Stone Skin & Shield (friendly)
8. Blind (worth mentioning twice)

The only time I would equip Recanter's Cloak is for a low-power garrison hero who didn't have lvl. 3+ spells anyhow.


If you use a magic hero then these spells is important, if not there are (as andi said) other spells that takes your power skill into full use. And another thing, the recanter's is to powerful to give to a secondary hero, cause if you lose it, you might have to change your tactics (and you don't wan't that, cause you wan't to get the game the way you wan't right??) Anyway, if you think those spells mentioned above is so great, why not always wear that cloak.....so that other players won't get the oppurtunity to use (in my opinion better spells) spells like armageddon, meteor shower, inferno, fire ball, implosion and so on.....
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LordLazy
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Wood cleaner
posted October 28, 2002 01:37 AM

"If you use a magic hero then these spells is important, if not there are"

Sorry...meant might hero, of course
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csarmi
csarmi


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posted October 28, 2002 06:31 AM

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lol...play the game tosser!



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BTW, I don't have HEROES 3 installed now and I won't install it just to get to know this one thing. Would it be hard to answer my question?

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