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Nikita
Nikita


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Meepo is underrated
posted December 09, 2008 02:42 AM
Edited by Nikita at 05:24, 22 Dec 2008.

AoEII Conquerors Tournament

i think some others wanted to play,so i created this thread and need some volunteers to play in the tournament.The map is picked by players(best if maps are of the same type) and rules are simple:give ur best and pls no cheating.
---------------> [url=http://www.turboupload.com/files/get/rYOZ93MDCR/her0-fest-200-pop.scx/]Hero's fest[/url] <---------------
map is only 11kb,after been dowloaded must be placed at Scenario folder in ur main AoE folder.Enjoy training.

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William
Magmaeater
Nikita
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Mamgaeater
Mamgaeater


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posted December 09, 2008 02:44 AM

We need to form a map approval committee?

And we would need to also figure out which type of match Nikita.

For one we would also need to figure out the default game settings and use Hamachi to set up the matches...
Would this tourney be 2v2 or 1v1?
A lot of things need to be addressed before we could do this Nikita.

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Nikita
Nikita


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Meepo is underrated
posted December 09, 2008 02:59 AM

thats why i didnt post a lot,i dont want it to be my rules and every1 else follow them,so i hope u would help.

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william
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LummoxLewis
posted December 09, 2008 03:09 AM

No Deathmatch for starters. And I'm in.
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posted December 09, 2008 03:16 AM
Edited by Mamgaeater at 03:17, 09 Dec 2008.

William and nikita we need to reach a consensus on what the default settings for the games will be and how the tournament will be structured... do you have any ideas? And possibly everyone else who may play. (i'm in btw)
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LummoxLewis
posted December 09, 2008 03:31 AM
Edited by william at 03:32, 09 Dec 2008.

Well, balance is one of the things that needs to be looked at. We can't have one player as the Spanish and another one as the Goths, or one player as the Byzantines and another as the Goths because that's totally unfair. There would need to be a random element to it where players can't just decide to pick their favourite and best civilisation that they can play with. Adding randomisation to it will make some extra challenge since players might, for example, be given Aztecs to play with, even if they have never played with them before. It will challenge the players and make them think a bit more strategically, instead of doing what they would do with the civilisation that they play with the most. Every civilisation is different and therefore require different strategies than other civilisations.

Like I said before, there can't be any Deathmatch because that takes out the fun of trying to gather your resources. It just means you can basically build whatever you want straight from the start. Only towards the middle and end of the game will you need to properly start gathering some resources. Setting an age to start at would also be a good thing. Possibly starting out at Dark Age or Feudal Age might be a good idea?

Also, choosing players to play one another might have to be done by someone who is not in this tournament. I say that because if the players are chosen by somebody that they know is good just by reading the thread and their posts, then they might put them with a not so good player, which would be slightly unfair.
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Nikita
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posted December 09, 2008 03:36 AM
Edited by Nikita at 03:38, 09 Dec 2008.

It is players choice what to play and if he wants to play goths vs spanish its his choice.Player chooses.

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LummoxLewis
posted December 09, 2008 03:39 AM
Edited by william at 03:41, 09 Dec 2008.

Quote:

population:200
reveal map:explored
starting age:standard
victory:standard



The population might have to be lowered in case anybody does play and has Dialup. I know that sometimes I go back to dialup if I go over the monthly bandwidth limit, and I wouldn't want to be playing if the population limit was 200 since it would lag quite a bit. I wouldn't have the map as explored either. What good is it if you have a good view of the playing field? Exploring the map and finding out where things are is a fun part of the game. Starting age should perhaps be Dark Age or Feudal Age like I said before. And for victory, I usually only play Conquest.


EDIT:

I don't think that a player should verse someone else when they might be at such a disadvantage. It could potentially take the fun out of that game, and what good is playing a game when you're not having fun? I wouldn't have too much fun if I was playing as the goths and the other player was playing as the Byzantines. That's a massive disadvantage right there.

It needs to be balanced, otherwise people are going to complain that they might have lost due to them being at a big disadvantage and that it wasn't fair and all other sorts of things.
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Nikita
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Meepo is underrated
posted December 09, 2008 03:41 AM

I know ppl who played on dial up(as myself sometimes) 4v4 with 200 doesnt lagg a lot(the game is playable)and on 1v1 its not a problem.I thought u didnt like spamming units

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LummoxLewis
posted December 09, 2008 03:43 AM
Edited by william at 03:43, 09 Dec 2008.

Spamming units needs to be done at times when you are in certain situations. It sure is annoying though, but it's still a tactic and if the opponent wishes to try and kill you that way, then you will have to try and defend yourself and fight back.

And I have played many games in the past where the population limit was at 200 and the game lagged for me. I was on dialup at the time. Of course, the map was on huge or Gigantic. Not too sure though.
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posted December 09, 2008 03:48 AM

what about starting resources and what map/maps will we play on?
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posted December 09, 2008 03:49 AM

I personally think that the starting resources should be the standard, whatever that is. The maps should be random.
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Meepo is underrated
posted December 09, 2008 03:51 AM
Edited by Nikita at 03:54, 09 Dec 2008.

Sry guys forgot to tell ya,its on the top of thread read it.THey are setting i prefer as i mentioned that i dont want it to be only my rules so u can change it.

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LummoxLewis
posted December 09, 2008 03:52 AM

Wait, those are the settings and they can't be changed at all?
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posted December 09, 2008 03:59 AM

i believe they can be changed but from what i see the map is the only thing that may need to be changed...

i suggest

Full Random - (Arabia, Archipelago, Baltic, Coastal, Continental, Ghost Lake, Highland, Islands, Mediterranian, Migration, Mongolia, Oasis, Rivers, Scandinavia, Team Islands, Yucatan)



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posted December 09, 2008 04:00 AM

Yeah, I agree with the map you chose Mamga.
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posted December 09, 2008 04:03 AM

A few more things still need to be sorted out.


1.) how will we set up the games?

2.) single games or best 2/3?


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posted December 09, 2008 04:04 AM

Setting of the games would probably be via Hamachi. that would seem the best way, in my opinion.
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Nikita
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Meepo is underrated
posted December 09, 2008 04:20 AM

those maps are good,black forest is also a part of that random map list.Setting up game isnt a problem direct ip or hamachi,but we ll discuss it when every1 is ready to play.

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posted December 09, 2008 09:19 AM

yuck, Black Forest, I hate that map
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