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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted December 26, 2008 01:38 AM
Edited by angelito at 20:20, 22 Mar 2009.

I am planning to start a new scenario middle January. The title will be "300" . Yes, as the movie.

Narrative:

"Spartan King Leonidas  and 300 Spartans fight to the last man against Persian 'God-King' Xerxes  and his army of more than one million soldiers. As the battle rages, Queen Gorgo  attempts to rally support in Sparta for her husband.  Through narrative technique various fantastical creatures are introduced, placing 300 within the genre of historical fantasy".

Future map:



Leonidas


I would love to integrate a few immersing creatures, and I know some guys here are really skilled with animation and effects. If you saw the movie, you will guess what kind of atmosphere and creatures must be created. Dark, terrific and  scary.

Trailer


Would be great to have creatures looking as Kipshasz's hesperide or dark paladin:






Also those will fit well with a bit of cleaning:

From Evilhydra:


From Ranger:



A good start for spartan unit:


From Noxintus:


From BigJocker (you remember the ugly giant, maybe recoloured):


I will need 7-8 creatures (maybe more if people enjoy the project) for Xerxes's army and one GOOD spartan creature for Leonidas army. But even with a few I can script them to have different abilities and stats from a battle to another, so no need hundreds.

Here some screens about what I am looking for:











If I don't have creatures before march I will just use regular creatures (maybe commanders?). I need to point that I will work only on map design, story and scripts, and this will take me about 500 hours so will not have time for creatures. In battle sounds also will be changed, as once we got a creature's look, we will try to find the appropriate sound. The def. can change any monster in the game, I will use only custom ones (if everything goes well).

Of course I will listen attentively to any constructive suggestion.

Anyone interested?
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kipshasz
kipshasz


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Elvin's Darkside
posted December 26, 2008 09:31 AM

I would suggest using my Bloodknight instead of my Dark Paladin, though it would be a snowload of work making it (sprite comes from WoW) maybe you can ask Darklokke for help(he's good with stuff like that) and i'd suggest finding another sword or a polearm (the weapon i used comes from Arcanum)
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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted December 26, 2008 10:02 AM

Another impressive project Good luck with it, wish I could help in any way

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Hell_Wizard
Hell_Wizard


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posted December 26, 2008 10:46 AM
Edited by Hell_Wizard at 10:46, 26 Dec 2008.

Well, if you have more than 50 frames each, you can adjust them in the monster animation speed file,the group *.def files and create a WoG file for instaling them and replasing unused ones. After playing the map, the creatures will be restored with another patch IF the player wishes.

I'm interested.
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Salamandre
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posted December 26, 2008 11:53 AM

@Kipshasz

Is there a problem using sprites from other games as long as it is free? I am not aware of copyright rules.

@Warmonger

Thank you . Maybe in HoMM6 if it does not look as warcraft.

@Hell Wizard

I was thinking to only have a zip. with all files inside, not really a patch/mod. But this will be the last thing to fix. Wanna give a try and create a creature?
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kesnar
kesnar


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posted December 26, 2008 11:57 AM
Edited by kesnar at 11:59, 26 Dec 2008.

Will your scenario be based on the movie-comic 300 or on the real story?!?


Anyway it will surely be god..


Also I could help you with translating greek articles or by giving you information I know...(I 'm from greece)
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted December 26, 2008 12:01 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 12:09, 26 Dec 2008.

@Kesnar

I don't know yet. Maybe a mixture of both to keep it fantasy oriented. I did a search and hardly found any real details of what happened. It became mostly a legend. But I loved the movie.

For reasons you can understand I will maybe have to change the end into something more "positive". I don't feel people playing it if they are sure to lose. Ideas will come along. In Alexander map the main hero dies at the end without affecting the game play or the score so I will likely find something similar with some scripts.
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Ayreon
Ayreon


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posted December 26, 2008 12:18 PM

Sounds very interesting. I will follow this mod's progress most carefully

Good luck, Salamandre. May the Force be with you


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kipshasz
kipshasz


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Elvin's Darkside
posted December 26, 2008 12:53 PM

@Salamandre: what i meant to say is that it will be hard to make a creature from sprites taken from another game. Animation, color palettes etc.
Feel free to borrow any one of my creatures(with credits of course)
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Hell_Wizard
Hell_Wizard


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posted December 26, 2008 01:03 PM

@Salamandre:

Why not? And BTW, you can make the instalation much easier with a WoG file. You may even put it in the *.zip if you want. Team?
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baklava
baklava


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posted December 26, 2008 01:07 PM

Cool idea, I'd love to help somehow. I've only got one objection though.

THIS
IS
HEROES!!!

*kicks graphics taken from WoW into the pit*
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kipshasz
kipshasz


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Elvin's Darkside
posted December 26, 2008 01:13 PM

As always, Bak makes me laugh so hard that all the crows fell off from trees
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Salamandre
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posted December 26, 2008 01:37 PM

@Kipshasz

Everyone who will create any creature will get credit for it for sure. I am not interested in taking your creatures, but in you creating their animations and such

@baklava

As long as the sprites are great and fit into the special atmosphere I don't care from where they come. And no, I will not use nukes in Heroes.

@Hell Wizard

I need creatures...animations, you know, all this stuff. I don't have a clue about how they must be done, and how it will be installed. But as specified, the install way will be the last thing to fix. If you feel skilled to create an install WoG file, so be it. But there will be long way until we reach that.
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Hell_Wizard
Hell_Wizard


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posted December 26, 2008 01:44 PM
Edited by Hell_Wizard at 13:50, 26 Dec 2008.

I have a 3D engine and editor...I can expert *.gif and extract the frames, so I can do creatures. You only need to wait.

I'm starting right now.
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Alustor
Alustor


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ooo da :)
posted February 16, 2009 06:20 PM

how going with the map salamandre?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted February 16, 2009 06:40 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 18:45, 16 Feb 2009.

I started a few days ago. So far, the high council of Sparte raised from dust, a few hundred towns around to come.


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Warmonger
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posted February 16, 2009 07:09 PM

Many new effects, not bad at all. What I like at most is the minimap

But the fortifications around look terribly, mostly because of different angle of light.

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Alustor
Alustor


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ooo da :)
posted February 16, 2009 07:19 PM

yes the fortification around look a bit odd but the minimap kicks how about the creatures?have you made any?the ideea were great and hell said that he will help

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted February 16, 2009 08:08 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:16, 16 Feb 2009.

It all depends of what is around. Actually I am testing various combinations with the 300 new objects, just to see how the palettes fit together. For example the blue square near the big house on right side is modifying its colour once/sec. It starts with dark blue and goes through all the spectres till it reach light green. Most of map layout is only in beta phase, because keeping the minimap force me to accept what the editor proposes me as terrain, and I have to mask holes and other weird things. You can notice strange things in how the terrains are touching each other, and this will need careful care.



For the fortifications, I will try different combinations until they fit well. They are terrible ugly, but maybe I get a solution.It is a weird thing 3DO did not gave us simple walls to protect an area.


@Alustor

I had so many offers for creatures that I had to refuse all to not offend someone

Seriously only Hell Wizard proposed to help me, but he is out of HC for a long time.

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Alustor
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ooo da :)
posted February 16, 2009 08:27 PM

hmz...so you don t have any creatures yet...but you will have them right? sry for my optimism but i really liked the creatures ideeas and i will like to see them in this scenario

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